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1 posted on 05/13/2003 4:27:39 PM PDT by UnklGene
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Let's see..are they paying state taxes? If not, no license.
2 posted on 05/13/2003 4:30:50 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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This question is best answered with a question. Should illegal aliens get drivers licences? That depends on whether we are really a country that has things like citizenship and rights and laws and responsibilities, or are we not really a country at all?

I remember my whole life being told "driving is not a right, it is a privilege". One that we now give away to people who are not even here legally. Either we assert that we are a nation of laws that EVERYBODY has to obey, or else let's just throw in the towel and admit that our laws are not really enforced any longer, and prepare for the chaos that is sure to follow.

Here's a thought. Why don't we change our citizenship and immigration laws to be exactly like what Mexico has?
3 posted on 05/13/2003 4:32:57 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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Whenever I need to go to Europe I order a foreign driver's license, just in case. If they want to continue to issue them here, they should be very obviously different than the local kind.
4 posted on 05/13/2003 4:34:37 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( Midnight at the Oasis)
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No license! If they are here illegally, let them drive illegally as well.

If we give them driver's licenses, they will abuse them as well by using them to vote, collect benefits, etc...

Believe me, it will happen regardless of how provisionary we make the licenses.

5 posted on 05/13/2003 4:35:04 PM PDT by Drew68
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It confers a sort of quasi-citizenship and, as described by one illegal alien in Texas, "The driver's license ends up becoming our pass to be in this country."

When I drive in Mexico, I don't have to get a Mexican driver's license ----if a state doesn't want to arrest someone because they're driving with a Mexican driver's license, it's one thing ---giving them a state driver's license implies they're legal residents and they are not. Here illegals can use their Mexican licenses ---to me it's better, the local cop might not ask them their immigration status if they present a Mexican license and weren't committing some serious crime but they can't use those licenses for getting back and forth over the border easily as they could if they had a US license.

6 posted on 05/13/2003 4:36:11 PM PDT by FITZ
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NO. And I don't see anything to discuss about it.
7 posted on 05/13/2003 4:36:19 PM PDT by dalebert
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Um, hang on a sec, lemme try this . . . NO!
8 posted on 05/13/2003 4:37:02 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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Of course they shouldn't. No brainer. Amazing that they do however.
9 posted on 05/13/2003 4:37:37 PM PDT by ladyinred
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Let them get an international license just like I did when I went to Europe. By the way I couldn't get a drivers license in any country I visited. Why should they get a US (State) license while they are here?
11 posted on 05/13/2003 4:39:10 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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Yes give the drivers licenses, welfare, Section 8 housing, SSDI, free health care, etc, etc.

I'd post the </sarcasm off> but it's too late. Their already getting all of this and more.

12 posted on 05/13/2003 4:39:37 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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I have known many illegal aliens while living in California. Most of the adults had driver's licenses, and they said they were easy to get as long as you paid the money. The going rate back then was $100 for a license. Those in the DMV can be paid off fairly cheaply, it seems. What about stricter control of that?
13 posted on 05/13/2003 4:40:01 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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discover that most of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 carried driver's licenses from Virginia, Florida or New Jersey.

The other bad thing ----how could you know anyone from these states are here legally if they make it easy ----the citizens of those states could end up having to prove citizenship in some other way if they were trying to cross an international border while the rest of us just need to show a drivers license. If Florida wants to recognize Mexican licenses, that would be a different matter.

14 posted on 05/13/2003 4:40:18 PM PDT by FITZ
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they can get in-state-tuition...why not driving licences too???
15 posted on 05/13/2003 4:40:39 PM PDT by Bill Davis FR
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Simple answer. NO!!
17 posted on 05/13/2003 4:46:09 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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Any person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) who commits encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
18 posted on 05/13/2003 4:47:37 PM PDT by Eric Esot
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My view is that we should set up a registered Guest Worker program to handle the need on both sides for Mexican workers in this country. They would not be illegal and should be able to get drivers licences. All others are illegals and should not have any rights associated with citizenship, including licenses and tuition breaks.
20 posted on 05/13/2003 4:50:03 PM PDT by expatpat
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INS public affairs officer Garrison Courtney identified one of the biggest problems: "If they were illegal when they came here, it's very difficult to determine who they really are because they've created illegal IDs for themselves."

When I moved to La. from Al., I had to show 3 forms of ID, proof of insurance, proof of residence (a utility bill to the address where I lived)! I had to show my marriage (license) certificate from Ala. because I only had an Ala. drivers license & a birth certificate for ID (I needed 3 ID's).
Has anyone (citizen) had to register a child in public school? Beside ID, proof of residence, child's soc sec # & birth certificate, you also need immunization records since birth!!

I have always been in awe of illegals who can access all of our government services (with what ID?). I wish I could easily get legal ID's as easy as those illegals get illegal ID's.
28 posted on 05/13/2003 5:19:12 PM PDT by jrushing
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No.
29 posted on 05/13/2003 5:20:25 PM PDT by not-an-ostrich
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No one should be here illegaly. That's the answer to the license problem. Send illegals home.
32 posted on 05/13/2003 5:27:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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Not only should illegal aliens not be allowed to obtain drivers licenses, but they should be apprehended when the apply for drivers licenses and expelled from the U.S.
34 posted on 05/13/2003 5:44:18 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("Liberalism" is decadence. It has nothing to do with liberalism.)
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