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FReep of NY Times by DC Chapter & AIM, After Action Report
May 15, 2003 | BillF

Posted on 05/15/2003 4:47:57 PM PDT by BillF

In their second lunch time DC mission of the week, FReepers of the DC Chapter gathered in front of the New York Times (NYT) office in Washington, DC. The NYT Washington bureau occupies a portion of an office building that includes various other offices.

The FReep today follows yesterday’s spectacular FReep of the NYT quagmire meeting in NY by the doctor of FReeping, Doctor Raoul. (Click here and read about that. You’ll be glad you did.)

The honor roll of attendance at today’s gathering of eagles: Kristinn, Angelwood, TBP, Xthe17th, WAlford, and BillF.

This was a joint operation of the DC Chapter with the fine people of Accuracy in Media (AIM). In addition to FReeper WAlford, who writes for AIM, there were 4 or 5 other AIMSTERS (?) in attendance, bringing our total forces to ten people.

Kristinn, TBP, and WAlford and the Aimsters were already there when I arrived at 12:30. We marched with our signs in front of the door, occasionally chanting “hey hey, ho ho, Howell Raines has got to go.” Angelwood arrived shortly with additional materials for sign making so that everyone could have a sign to hold. Xthe17th arrived and joined the FReep.

Without my digital camera, I’m hard pressed to remember all of the signs. Someone’s sign had the doctored photo of Blair as though he was now working for CNN to improve its credibility. Another sign was the Drudge headline with upside down NYT logo. (A motorist saw that and shouted “your sign is upside down.”

My sign said:

STOP HOWELL RAINES BEFORE HE LIES AGAIN

Reactions were mostly positive. A cab driver honked his horn and flashed a thumbs up. A bike messenger gently tapped my sign and said “That guy [i.e., Raines] must be a devil, right?” “Well, he doesn’t tell the truth,” I blurted out, not knowing if this guy was mocking us. When he left the building, he waved in friendship.

A guy came over from across the street and seemed sympathetic to the protest and hostile to the NYT. However, when Kristinn told him that some of we marchers were from FR, the guy said something like, “you’re crazy fascists!” and left.

Numerous AIM bumper stickers saying “I don’t believe the New York Times” were given to sympathetic pedestrians.

Dave Stadler of Washington, DC’s channel 9 took some video footage of us marching and spoke to Kristinn. Additionally, an NYT reporter came out and talked to Kristinn and one of the Aimsters.

The threatening storms held off as partly cloudy weather greeted our FReep. The storms have now arrived. The rains are washing the pollen out of the air even as Raines washes away any remaining credibility of the New York Times.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aim; dcchapter; deceit; doctorraoul; falsification; fraud; freep; howellraines; jaysonblair; lies; media; mediafraud; medialies; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorktimes; nyc; nyslimes; nyt; nytimes; plagiarism; quagmire; thenewyorktimes; timessquare

1 posted on 05/15/2003 4:47:57 PM PDT by BillF
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To: BillF
Great report from the famous DC Freepers! Imagine that guy calling us fascists! Wonder where he ever got that idea! :-) Probably from the NY Times!!!!!
2 posted on 05/15/2003 4:52:41 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred
Rush tried to make mention of this today but did not have either the name nor the sign correct, unfortunately: would have been good for Freep & funny at the same time.
3 posted on 05/15/2003 4:58:18 PM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: devildogO341; JamesParmelee; Dave Dilegge; BufordP; ironman; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; leadpenny; ...
Ping to DC Chapter ping list.

Also, below are corrected links as my word processing program messed up the html. (Sure, blame it on the computer.)

DC Chapter

Spectacular FReep by Doctor Raoul

Accuracy in Media (AIM)

4 posted on 05/15/2003 5:02:46 PM PDT by BillF (Sorry anti-America leftists, Saddam has left the planet!)
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To: BillF
Excellent job as always, Bill. Sorry I could not join you guys today. Keep up the freep!

5 posted on 05/15/2003 5:05:48 PM PDT by YourAdHere (Jenna will win Survivor)
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To: Xthe17th; walford
Ping to two who FReeped today.
6 posted on 05/15/2003 5:10:55 PM PDT by BillF (Sorry anti-America leftists, Saddam has left the planet!)
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To: BillF; nutmeg; Black Agnes
Thanks, great job..

Can you repost the links, they did not seem to work...

7 posted on 05/15/2003 5:16:40 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life)
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To: BillF; nina0113
One more of us was there.

Thanks for the write up. I'll add some details while I eat dinner.....

8 posted on 05/15/2003 5:27:07 PM PDT by kristinn (Howell Raines is in a Quagmire)
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To: BillF
Great job, you guys! It sounded like fun.
9 posted on 05/15/2003 5:35:07 PM PDT by rabidralph (Giggle if you want to.)
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To: martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; Miss Marple; Tamsey; ...

Schadenfreude

This is the New York Times Schadenfreude Ping List. Freepmail me to be added or dropped.


10 posted on 05/15/2003 5:36:50 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: BillF
"crazy fascist" bump...:D
11 posted on 05/15/2003 5:55:04 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: BillF; kristinn
I still think the worst thing Raines has done recently isn't this Blair issue.

It's quoting an anonymous, low-level military source that the war was in a quagmire and making it the lead news story that day in the NYT.

That's bias, plain and simple. Everyone knows you can find such a source. Elevating those disgruntled quotes to front page news is plain evidence of bias: Raines couldn't possibly have believed the quote was representative of anything. The Times was trying to *make*, not report, news with that story.

That's the worst scandal.
12 posted on 05/15/2003 6:22:20 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: nina0113; kristinn
Nina0113

Apologies for leaving you off the attendance honor role. We didn't get a chance to talk at this FReep & I absent-mindedly grouped you with the Aimsters.
13 posted on 05/15/2003 6:49:55 PM PDT by BillF (Sorry anti-America leftists, Saddam has left the planet!)
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To: BillF
First off, thanks to Don Irvine and the good people at AIM for coming down today. Their presence made a big difference today in getting the message out about the need for accountability at The New York Times.

We were surprised when the reporter for the NYT came out. She started interviewing Don, Angelwood and me, but she quickly turned the interview into a debate.

A Washington Post reporter arrived and Don spoke with him as Angelwood and I continued debating the NYT reporter. The interview was more like Crossfire. She kept defending her paper and its management while Angelwood and I kept hammering away.

She even insisted that we should be protesting at NYT HQ in NYC rather than the D.C. bureau.

She also kept bringing up Stephen Glass's plagiarism while at the New Republic as the same as what's been going on at her paper. While she finally conceded a few points, she continued to argue that it was debatable whether Maureen Dowd mischaracterized President Bush's recent remarks about Al-Qaeda.

All in all, it was the most contentious interview we've done since Bill Clinton's impeachment. It'll be interesting to see what, if any, of this is reported by The Times.

14 posted on 05/15/2003 6:53:21 PM PDT by kristinn (Howell Raines is in a Quagmire)
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To: Coleus
Can you repost the links, they did not seem to work...

I reposted the links at reply 4. They seem to work there.

15 posted on 05/15/2003 6:59:02 PM PDT by BillF (Sorry anti-America leftists, Saddam has left the planet!)
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To: BillF; firebrand; Cacique; Exit148; katnip; God luvs America; Tamsey; NYC GOP Chick; kphockey2; ...
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16 posted on 05/15/2003 7:06:00 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life)
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To: BillF; kristinn; Angelwood; TBP; Xthe17th; walford
Great job to you all!!!

Lunchtime was probably a perfect time as the staff was probably coming and going throughout the hour to eat. Plus the smokers probably have to stand right out front. Did you see many Times employees? If so did they have any comments? Or did they do the perp walk with the paper over their faces?

A cab driver honked his horn and flashed a thumbs up.

That always gets me how the DC cabbies are usually the most supportive. Maybe they're sick of getting stiffed by liberals.

17 posted on 05/15/2003 7:29:01 PM PDT by L_Von_Mises
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To: BillF
Thanks for posting the after-action report and thanks to the folks from AIM for freeping the NYTimes with us today. They were handing out stickers "I Don't Believe The New York Times" and they gave us some to pass out also.

One fellow stopped by to talk to us about our reasons for protesting outside the New York Times. He took one of the stickers from me. Then he realized that we were FReepers, said as much and gave the sticker back. He did an about face and jaywalked across the street to one of the stores.

Another guy came out of the building, looked at our signs and said, "It's about time you guys protested here." He also walked across the street to pick up some lunch. On his way back he was "thumbs up" all the way across the street.

An older gentleman in a nice suit made his way through our midst. He asked us what union we were with -- much to our amusement.

I was pretty swamped at work today and threw together a few signs. I was running late (but at least I was able to show up) and I brought extra posterboard and markers so everyone could have their own sign. It was great to have 12 people (including the AIM cameraman who spent a lot of time taking pictures from across I Street) arrive for a lunchtime freep.

I had a sign with Registered's Jayson Blair/CNN picture; another sign with a picture of "ARTHUR, HOWELL and GERALD" coming out of or going into the NYT meeting on Wednesday with a further caption "NEW YORK TIMES LIAR'S CLUB"; I copied Matt Drudge's upside down NYTimes logo and announcement of the crisis meeting over top of the DRUDGE REPORT logo for another sign; NEW YORK TIMES - INTEGRITY QUAGMIRE; and the others attending made up their own signs, most of which had "lies" somewhere on them.

The rain held off until very late afternoon so we had good weather walking back and forth in front of the New York Times Washington Bureau.

As Kristinn mentioned, the NYTimes reporter was not really interviewing us after the first couple of questions. She was very aggressively debating and defending the actions of the NYT management and trying very hard to equate problems at other publications with those at her organization. Over and over she would come back to the same theme: The NYT has apologized, said they were sorry; what else would you have them do? What else indeed!
18 posted on 05/15/2003 7:31:41 PM PDT by Angelwood (FReepers are Everywhere! We Support Our Troops!)
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To: BillF; kristinn; Angelwood; MrConfettiMan; Diver Dave; JustAmy; Grampa Dave
Thanks for the excellent report and the outstanding FReep. DC Chapter rocks!
19 posted on 05/15/2003 7:36:44 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: kristinn
A Washington Post reporter arrived and Don spoke with him as Angelwood and I continued debating the NYT reporter. The interview was more like Crossfire. She kept defending her paper and its management while Angelwood and I kept hammering away.

That must be part of their interview training process. When interviewing, if you don't get the desired answers try to argue with them instead of just getting the facts and then report nothing. When they finaly find someone with the desired answer, that is reported as the unanimous concensus. It appears to me that the reporter was simply proving the point about their lack of honest reporting.

20 posted on 05/15/2003 7:38:00 PM PDT by L_Von_Mises
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To: Angelwood; Registered
She was very aggressively debating and defending the actions of the NYT management and trying very hard to equate problems at other publications with those at her organization.

That's the clintonesque defense: everyone else does it.

21 posted on 05/15/2003 7:39:24 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: L_Von_Mises
Did you see many Times employees?

A number of the people entering and exiting the building were probably NYT employees.

Indeed, the NYT reporter who interviewed Kristinn was with a small group of people (probably all NYT employees returning from lunch) who entered the building together. She went in the building and came out a few minutes later to interview debate Kristinn.

We had no way of telling who among those entering and exiting the building were NYT employees. The building includes numerous other offices.

22 posted on 05/15/2003 8:07:04 PM PDT by BillF (Sorry anti-America leftists, Saddam has left the planet!)
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To: L_Von_Mises
That must be part of their interview training process. When interviewing, if you don't get the desired answers try to argue with them instead of just getting the facts and then report nothing. When they finally find someone with the desired answer, that is reported as the unanimous concensus. It appears to me that the reporter was simply proving the point about their lack of honest reporting.

I'd go a little bit farther in the analysis, LvM; especially with the Jayson Blair story to back it up...

If the NY Times doesn't get what they want in an interview, they just make something up!

Jayson Blair just took that modus operandi to its obvious next step, he simply dropped the "middle man," the subject of an article, the interviewee, and just plain wrote what he wanted the story to be.

"NY Times - All the news that's printed to fit (our agenda)."

"NY Times - Your newspaper with a record (of lies).

23 posted on 05/15/2003 8:07:40 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: Fred Mertz; BillF
Thanks for the ping, Fred.

Excellent report. Thanks go to the DC FReepers.
24 posted on 05/15/2003 8:15:51 PM PDT by JustAmy (God Bless President Bush and God Bless America!)
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To: BillF; nina0113; Angelwood; kristinn; All
Great job, guys!
25 posted on 05/15/2003 9:09:54 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: All
NY Times is in a quagmire!!
26 posted on 05/15/2003 9:10:21 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: All
NY Times is in a quagmire!!
27 posted on 05/15/2003 9:10:41 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: All
NY Times is in a quagmire!!
28 posted on 05/15/2003 9:11:14 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: All
NY Times is in a quagmire!!
29 posted on 05/15/2003 9:11:26 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: All
NY Times is in a quagmire!!
30 posted on 05/15/2003 9:11:52 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: nunya bidness
Before you ask, I wasn't there today, so I don't have any photos to post.

I'll be sitting here with you, anxiously awaiting the pictures of this FReep.

Howya' doin', nunya?

31 posted on 05/15/2003 9:15:01 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: All
NY Times is in a quagmire!!
32 posted on 05/15/2003 9:15:13 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: All
NY Times is in a quagmire!!
33 posted on 05/15/2003 9:16:07 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: BillF
Beautifully done, as always :-) Congrats to everyone who participated in another great Freep!
34 posted on 05/15/2003 9:57:10 PM PDT by Tamzee (A half-truth is a whole lie .......Yiddish Proverb)
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks for the ping!

Great job by the DC Freepers!
35 posted on 05/15/2003 11:20:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has The NY Slimes ever printed the truth in your life time?)
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks for the ping, Fred.

Kudos to the DC Chapter and AIM!!!

36 posted on 05/16/2003 12:32:10 AM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: BillF
BRAVO ZULU! Great FReep, great report.
37 posted on 05/16/2003 7:53:51 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: BillF
Some coverage here:

http://webnewsroom.blogspot.com/2003_05_11_webnewsroom_archive.html#94406784

Posted here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/912236/posts
38 posted on 05/16/2003 9:44:20 AM PDT by TBP
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To: BillF
!!!!!
39 posted on 05/16/2003 10:01:16 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: Timesink
LOL!
40 posted on 05/16/2003 4:54:16 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (You believe that happy crappy? Don't tell me; I'll tell you!)
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To: BillF
Great freep and free-port. Thanks for the flag.
41 posted on 05/18/2003 6:31:02 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Beware the Rodham Fedayeen!)
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To: Angelwood
The rain held off until very late afternoon so we had good weather walking back and forth in front of the New York Times Washington Bureau.

The Lord smiled on you guys for a good reason!

Outstanding freep!
42 posted on 05/18/2003 6:45:13 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Beware the Rodham Fedayeen!)
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