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Democrats file complaint about ads against Daschle
Rapid City (S.D.) Journal ^ | May 15, 2003 | Denise Ross

Posted on 05/15/2003 5:04:34 PM PDT by fightinJAG

Democrats file complaint about ads against Daschle By Denise Ross, Journal Staff Writer

WASHINGTON — Television ads that take Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., to task for opposing President Bush's tax-cut package break the new federal campaign-finance laws, Democratic leaders believe.

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee filed a formal complaint against ad sponsor Club for Growth with the Federal Election Commission this week. The DSCC contends that Club for Growth uses unrestricted soft money to campaign against an individual candidate, something a new federal law says can be done only with limited hard money.

"There can be no doubt that the ad in question does precisely that which is prohibited," wrote DSCC general counsel Robert Bauer to the FEC.

Club for Growth executive director David Keating called that position "ridiculous" and said the ads do not violate the law.

"They don't seem to know the law over there. They know the law so poorly, they filed a complaint," Keating said. "This is a free country. You're allowed to criticize public officials."

The ads and the FEC complaint are an early salvo in South Dakota's 2004 U.S. Senate campaign, an election that so far has a single candidate — Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle.

This confrontation follows last month's fracas over a proposed TV ad campaign that included plans to use down-home "Hee Haw" style humor to underscore Daschle's opposition to the president on certain issues. After news reports of its plans, the Sioux Falls-based Rushmore Policy Council shelved the ad campaign.

With questions over the legality of both the Rushmore Policy Council's plans and this week's complaint to the FEC, South Dakota is shaping up to be the epicenter of early clashes over the new McCain-Feingold campaign-finance reform laws.

The Club for Growth ads began running in eastern South Dakota on Monday and link Bush's tax-cut proposal with those of Presidents Kennedy and Reagan, both of which preceded job growth.

"President Bush knows tax cuts create jobs, and that helps balance the budget," the ad announcer says. "But Sen. Tom Daschle opposes the president. Tell Tom Daschle to support the Kennedy-Reagan-Bush tax policy that will bring jobs back to South Dakota."

The DSCC and Club for Growth disagree on whether paying for the ads with soft money amounts to a violation of the law.

"The judge's ruling said genuine issue ads are permitted," Club for Growth's Keating said. "It's not really clear what he meant or where the line is. But I don't think we've come close to the line."

The DSCC's Bauer said that not only does the new law specifically aim to end the use of soft money, given by unnamed donors, to buy "issue" advertising, but judges held up Club for Growth "as exhibit No. 1" as an offender in this area.

"The Club for Growth was the subject of an enormous amount of commentary in recent court decisions. The judge identified it as exactly what it is," Bauer said. "The Club for Growth went off in the wake of and in the face of that decision and did exactly what the court says is prohibited."

Bauer said that because Club for Growth's stated aim is the election or defeat of candidates, it is bound by the same rules as candidates themselves.

"No one would quarrel with the club if it paid for these ads with hard money raised and disclosed like any other political committee," he wrote to the FEC.

The club should register as a political committee with the FEC, Bauer said. The fiscally conservative group is currently registered as a "527" political organization with the Internal Revenue Service.

Keating said the issue centers on the free-speech guarantee in the First Amendment.

"Apparently, their view is, ‘We're public officials. You can't mention our names in broadcast ads.' That's ridiculous," he said. "It comes with the territory. You're an elected official, and people should be able to criticize."

The FEC review process is lengthy, and the matter could be decided by the courts before the FEC weighs in.

Commercials similar to those that target Daschle are running in Ohio, targeting Republican Sen. George Voinovich, who is also up for re-election next year; in Maine, against Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe; and against Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, according to The Associated Press.

On Monday, Club for Growth president Stephen Moore told the AP that the group believes those three senators can be convinced to vote for Bush's tax proposal, and the South Dakota ads aim to underscore Daschle's stance in a state where the group believes President Bush's agenda is popular.

In a lengthy May 2 ruling, a federal three-judge panel struck down one broad ban on election-time political ads but upheld fallback rules that prohibit many groups, including those financed with corporate or union money, from airing ads that promote, support, attack or oppose a candidate.

The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to review the new campaign-finance laws before the 2004 election.

Contact Denise Ross at 394-8438 or denise.ross@rapidcityjournal.com


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: 2004; cfr; cfrlist; clubforgrowth; daschle; fec; mccainfeingold; silenceamerica

1 posted on 05/15/2003 5:04:34 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
Whine, whine, whine.
2 posted on 05/15/2003 5:05:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: fightinJAG
Thats just awful. Democrats trying to stop ads about worms.
3 posted on 05/15/2003 5:06:00 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: gcruse; ValenB4
They're just mad about the Hee-Haw humor!
4 posted on 05/15/2003 5:06:49 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (There are two kinds of people in the world: Idiots, and those who take advantage of them.)
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To: fightinJAG
It's a good thing that Campaign Finance Reform isn't about limiting free speech, isn't it?
5 posted on 05/15/2003 5:08:27 PM PDT by mwyounce
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To: fightinJAG
While we are on the subject of dAssHole, men, don't forget to get your prostate checked regularly.
6 posted on 05/15/2003 5:09:54 PM PDT by lormand
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To: fightinJAG
This is just the beginning, wait till the elections get closer, we will see this a LOT.
This is why they wanted "reform".
You won't recognize the USA after they get finished.
7 posted on 05/15/2003 5:10:48 PM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: fightinJAG
Will this scare of the media carriers or will they use it as an excuse to not run the ads ?
8 posted on 05/15/2003 5:10:56 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: fightinJAG; .45MAN; nicmarlo; FreedomPoster
Somebody call the wahhhhhmbulance!


9 posted on 05/15/2003 5:12:24 PM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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To: fightinJAG
"They don't seem to know the law over there.

Not only do they not know the law, they don't know the difference between calling for Sen. Daschle to support 'tax cuts' and calling for his defeat.

10 posted on 05/15/2003 5:18:36 PM PDT by kcordell
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To: Cicero
*Snort*
11 posted on 05/15/2003 5:19:18 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: fightinJAG
Where can I donate to fund ads that call Daschle a "lousy fascist pig"?
12 posted on 05/15/2003 5:21:45 PM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: fightinJAG
Oh stop it you dems would you?

Dear God that's those guys do is gripe and complain like some silly little kids on an elementary school playground with Daschle leading the pack!

What a bunch of immature and spiteful kids they are. Teacher, they did this and Teacher, they did that, and on and on and on. We're all sick of them.

What an insignificant group of little minds, huh? They cut and run too like they did in Texas. Pitiful for sure. Just never got over Bush wining the election. Too bad.
13 posted on 05/15/2003 5:36:25 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: dansangel
LOVE THAT!!!!!! Funny and clever! :)
14 posted on 05/15/2003 5:37:05 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: fightinJAG
The dems are right you know, we shouldnt criticize Daschle for being against the tax cut. We should, however, criticize him for being a mealy mouthed, whiney, little weasle, who acts so childishly, that my four year old is more mature than he is...
15 posted on 05/15/2003 5:39:00 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: fightinJAG
There is also an ad in my part of the Country about Leahy filibustering the President's judical nominees. The ad fittingly brings up the fact that in '98 Leahy said nobody should be blocked without at least a vote. The democrats change their tune faster than the wind changes directions.
16 posted on 05/15/2003 5:56:37 PM PDT by rs79bm (The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit ... R. Limbaugh)
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To: fightinJAG
What...15 posts and noone's said it yet?

OK..I will>

I'm deeply saddened :)

17 posted on 05/15/2003 5:57:10 PM PDT by evad (Lying..It's what they do, it's all they do and they won't stop...EVER!!)
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To: *CFR List; *Silence, America!
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
18 posted on 05/15/2003 6:07:47 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: tet68
You won't recognize the USA after they get finished.

Do you mean that this:

Congress shall make no law ... or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

will once again have to be respected?

I say just write that on your check to groups like The Club For Growth and your covered.

"My case your Honor is simple, what F'ing part of 'shall make no law' don't you understand?"

That is a case the right lawyer can make and win. Since what you are doing has elements in all four clauses, restricting it, would be blatently unConstitutional. The media circus that can be brought down on this issue of the government creating political prisoners of critics, I think will be enough to make the judiciary fear the people (at least those who know that once the soapbox is taken away, there will be only one way left to be heard).

19 posted on 05/15/2003 6:32:24 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: cubreporter
Thank-you :-)
20 posted on 05/16/2003 4:08:41 AM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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To: fightinJAG
Bauer is playing right into the Club for Growth's hands. By challenging the ad, it gives CFG the chance to fight McCain-Feingold in court. Getting that blatantly unconstitutional bill tossed or severly weakened now will give the GOP a big advantage in 2004.
21 posted on 05/16/2003 4:16:59 AM PDT by kevkrom
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To: fightinJAG
sounds like old tommy can't take what he dishs out....keep up the ads
22 posted on 05/16/2003 4:21:21 AM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: dansangel; 4ConservativeJustices; .45MAN; ABG(anybody but Gore); acnielsen guy; aeronca; ...
Daschole (via "Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee") thinks being criticized violates a law, ping. (Thanks dansangel, for the ping.)

Television ads that take Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., to task for opposing President Bush's tax-cut package break the new federal campaign-finance laws, Democratic leaders believe....

Club for Growth executive director David Keating called that position "ridiculous" and said the ads do not violate the law. "They don't seem to know the law over there. They know the law so poorly, they filed a complaint," Keating said. "This is a free country. You're allowed to criticize public officials."

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(Please Freepmail me if you want on/off Daschle ping.)

23 posted on 05/16/2003 5:34:00 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; sweetliberty; All
They don't seem to know the law over there.

Which is exactly why these marxists pigs want to subvert the Constitution and all law!

24 posted on 05/16/2003 7:09:47 AM PDT by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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To: Budge
Agreed!!
25 posted on 05/16/2003 7:52:36 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

26 posted on 05/16/2003 8:14:37 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: yall


27 posted on 05/16/2003 8:14:53 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: fightinJAG
LOL!! The Club For Growth must have put out a pretty good ad.

Leave it to the RATS to whine and scream "Teacher! Teacher! No Fair!!!" when they're losing at kickball. The RAT leadership is filled with crybaby no-b@lls sissy boys.

28 posted on 05/16/2003 8:20:53 AM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: MeeknMing
Perfect for this thread (and I just think that is the most hysterical pic!!)! Morning, meekie!
29 posted on 05/16/2003 8:35:32 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
I like Bush's approach, allow them to make fools of themselves.

As far as people like Snowe are concerned, why spend money them that could actually buy tax cuts...?

30 posted on 05/16/2003 8:35:54 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I like Bush's approach, allow them to make fools of themselves.

Agreed; and they're sure doing a fine job of it! About your second point, I'm not following....(yes, I'm a little slow! : )

31 posted on 05/16/2003 8:37:32 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: fightinJAG
This needs to be bigger news, as this was the intended reason for the bill in the first place!!
32 posted on 05/16/2003 8:46:10 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: nicmarlo
If the "moderates" are to side with the leftists why are they worth supporting? They aren't on the team and it's time to realize it.
33 posted on 05/16/2003 8:52:16 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Got it, and I agree. : )
34 posted on 05/16/2003 9:04:25 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: mabelkitty
this was the intended reason for the bill in the first place!!

Most definitely was!

35 posted on 05/16/2003 9:08:29 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Mornin' !!
36 posted on 05/16/2003 9:18:42 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: RooRoobird14
The ads must be having an effect in South Dakota. Double or triple the media buy.
37 posted on 05/16/2003 9:21:38 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: MeeknMing
it's bad when the Democrats' official seal shows a Republican.

Democrats abort; they don't reproduce. At least insofar as I can tell.
38 posted on 05/16/2003 9:27:54 AM PDT by dufekin (Peace HAS COME AT LONG LAST to the tortured people of Iraq!)
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To: MeeknMing
I Likes your FReeper site - I Likes It A LOT!
39 posted on 05/16/2003 9:40:52 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Thank you ! :O)
40 posted on 05/16/2003 9:42:06 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing; All
MeeknMing, thought y'all might like to see one of the many signs we used at the X-42 FReep the Sunday before last election day.


"Don Friovinia" holding the demobrats seal.

We wrapped all signs in a clear plastic to protect them from the rain.

41 posted on 05/16/2003 1:18:38 PM PDT by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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To: nicmarlo
Let them waste their money on frivolous lawsuits.
42 posted on 05/16/2003 2:09:57 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Beware the Rodham Fedayeen.)
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To: Budge
Alright ! Thanks ! . . .
43 posted on 05/16/2003 3:16:08 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Bigg Red
Agreed; it only makes them look more foolish!
44 posted on 05/16/2003 5:58:39 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: fightinJAG; BOBTHENAILER; windchime; Ragtime Cowgirl; Wait4Truth; JulieRNR21; MeeknMing
How ironic, what with all the empty judicial slots. This little lawsuit may take years thanks to the lack of judges. LOL If they're upset now, just wait until all the President Bush, et al blogs are up and running for his re-election.

By the way, the announcement's been made. IT'S TIME TO DUST OFF YOUR BUSH/CHENEY BUTTON and wear it on your lapel. I say we get them off balance early on - all 9 of them. The 9 nobodies.

By the way, if anyone's following Gephardt, let me know as it appears McBride handed over his Fla. email list to Gephardt. I can hook you up.

45 posted on 05/17/2003 12:47:22 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Seriesly. This is hugh.)
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To: cake_crumb; vikingchick; BOBTHENAILER; DakotaGator; EternalVigilance; JayWolfe; summer; mafree
Here's a Daschle update. We already knew he can dish it out but he can't take it. If you want to follow Daschle, I recommend marking the Rapid City Journal on line. There's some good anti-Daschle material there.

The Argus Leader downplays Daschle's shortcomings.

How's everybody doin? I'm great but started gardening and it's dirty but not as dirty as Campaign 2004 will be. I'm ready though. If anyone needs help in 2004, just freepmail me and I'll do what I can from my very own Central Command.

Floriduh Voter

46 posted on 05/17/2003 12:53:11 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Seriesly. This is hugh.)
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To: floriduh voter
bttt for a later read . . .





47 posted on 05/17/2003 3:41:01 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: nicmarlo
bump
48 posted on 05/18/2003 4:11:43 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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