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5-15-03 | no_gods_no_masters

Posted on 05/15/2003 8:29:22 PM PDT by no_gods_no_masters

The nature of conservative politics is very much of the status quo, the standards set by society for itself and which is harshly regulated by the establishment and by the right. Anything outside of the "normal" is to be destroyed, looked down upon, or forgotten. Only one culture is acceptable to the conservative and to the right, the culture, of course, of the that group. All others are unimportant and wrong.

Look at the obviously pro-capitalist stance taken by most, if not all, conservatives. It is the viewpoint that only what is good for me and my own is good and f**k the rest. Well, if your society continues to crumble because the power is concentrated for your own good, then it is not in the end good for your own ends. Rather, the collective raising of the foundation of society is what is needed, not for the rich to get richer or for people to seperate even more, and thus the apparent alienation and complacent ignorance I've found in many conservative types.

Conservatives can obviously not make the connection between elitist class systems and the violence and "moral" outrage that is about. Environment is the largest contributor to the developement of an individual, and when that environment is violent and/or oppressed, then that individual will often take on some of these characteristics. Then you say they should make tougher laws and they should be thrown in a cage so we can continue to ignore them and pretend they are sub-human or at the very least those we need to climb over and ignore to get in our wonderful positions.

Rightist politics is also very privy to negative discrimination against races, religions, the sexes that don't "know their role", homosexuality, and just about anything else that is the slightest bit different from your conceptualization of the world as you wish to see it. I'm am not saying all or even many conservatives are sexists or racists, just that conservative politics tends toallow such behavior to be developed.

I need not go into the ignorant show of patriotism, as I will not change your opinions about that and probably never will, no matter what the government does.

This exercise in freedom may not make it on the board. I believe in complete and total freedom. In the US we do not have that. We have freedom compromised to a point with security, which is not freedom by definition, or by practice. Before some of you start fling things in my direction and typing in response: "You don't like it, go somewhere else" or "F**k you, liberal scum"(by the way, I'm not liberal and neither are many groups on the left), I would like to say that I simply notice and wish to change the things I view as wrong with the government, and doesn't make me a heretic, just some who dissents, and it is quite unfortunate that those two have come to common meanings in these past two years of the exploitation of liberty and the expansion of capitalism.

That's all I wish to say.


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1 posted on 05/15/2003 8:29:22 PM PDT by no_gods_no_masters
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To: no_gods_no_masters

Wow!

I haven't heard anything that profound since a meeting of the Socialist Revolutionary Party (Trotskyite) at the University of Chicago back in 1980!

Are you sure you're not Bob Avakian?

Anyhoo, remember, to avoid the "sound and fury, signifying nothing" problem, please recall that brevity is the soul of wit.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

2 posted on 05/15/2003 8:33:10 PM PDT by section9 (Yes, she's back! Motoko Kusanagi....tanned, rested, and ready!)
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To: Constitution Day; Poohbah; 4mycountry; jriemer

3 posted on 05/15/2003 8:34:24 PM PDT by dighton
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To: no_gods_no_masters
after reading that...I've been thinking here...

The "no_brains_no_commonsense" screenname isn't taken.
4 posted on 05/15/2003 8:34:27 PM PDT by Registered (RIP Baghdad Bob)
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To: no_gods_no_masters
Rather, the collective raising of the foundation of society is what is needed

Is that kinda like "It takes a Village to raise a child"?

No thanks.

5 posted on 05/15/2003 8:34:30 PM PDT by katnip
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To: no_gods_no_masters
Another neo-Marxist still pissed about the falsification of the labor theory of value.
6 posted on 05/15/2003 8:34:31 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: no_gods_no_masters
Where did you get such a distorted view of conservatives and the right? Let me guess. School! Right?
7 posted on 05/15/2003 8:34:57 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: katnip
Is that kinda like "It takes a Village to raise a child"?

More like from each according to ability...

8 posted on 05/15/2003 8:35:05 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Thane_Banquo
Steal from the rich, give to the poor?
9 posted on 05/15/2003 8:35:45 PM PDT by katnip
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To: Registered
The "no_brains_no_commonsense" screenname isn't taken.

Very good!

10 posted on 05/15/2003 8:36:33 PM PDT by katnip
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To: section9; no_gods_no_masters

Oh, boogers!

I forgot the Viking Kittens alert. Gotta run and notify the Admin Operator about our friend, no gods no masters, here.

Yes, it's troll time at FR once again. Time to ....

Carry Out the Clown!

And now, back to your regularly scheduled tour of Michael Moore's large intestine....

Be Seeing You,

Chris

11 posted on 05/15/2003 8:38:14 PM PDT by section9 (Yes, she's back! Motoko Kusanagi....tanned, rested, and ready!)
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To: no_gods_no_masters
I believe in complete and total freedom. In the US we do not have that. We have freedom compromised to a point with security, which is not freedom by definition, or by practice.

I assume you are talking about anarchy. If you can not see the obvious non-starter in that philosophy you won't find much help here.

12 posted on 05/15/2003 8:38:38 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: no_gods_no_masters
Anything outside of the "normal" is to be destroyed, looked down upon

Not at all.

Only you ;).

13 posted on 05/15/2003 9:19:53 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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Behold the Power of ZOT! All Hail the Viking Kittens!
14 posted on 05/15/2003 9:31:56 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: no_gods_no_masters
Well...I guess he told us. I feel humbled and ashamed. What was I thinking?
15 posted on 05/15/2003 10:05:55 PM PDT by telebob
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To: no_gods_no_masters
Sounds like me as I left highschool behind me.

Of course, I grew up, and realized the forces that you describe here, come from the LEFT....

17 posted on 05/15/2003 10:14:06 PM PDT by Paradox
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To: no_gods_no_masters

not this again!
18 posted on 05/15/2003 10:17:28 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: no_gods_no_masters
Your evil.
19 posted on 05/15/2003 10:19:35 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: no_gods_no_masters
Expletive deleted. Get lost.
20 posted on 05/15/2003 10:24:47 PM PDT by ladyinred
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