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Yet another day on the illegal alien trails
17 May 2003 | Luis Martinez/JackelopeBreeder

Posted on 05/17/2003 6:28:41 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder

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To: JackelopeBreeder
doesn't the border patrol have airplanes?

night vision equipment?

i've been there many times.

it's not forested, like the canada-u.s. border, where many middle easterners that i knew in los angeles said that they'd crossed.

41 posted on 05/18/2003 10:51:38 AM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
A special BUMP to you, friend. I am saving your reports. One day, perhaps both parties will wake up and stop this nonsense. Until then, stay safe and thanks for keeping us informed.
42 posted on 05/18/2003 10:56:36 AM PDT by Libertina (How will the RATS overcome the "flightsuit" advantage ? LOL)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
one moment you say one thing, and the next moment, another:

in post #34

>>here in Cochise County, Arizona they were highly effective<<

but then in your last post to me you say the border patrol is not effective due to the landscape.

which is it? are the border patrol effective or not?
43 posted on 05/18/2003 11:00:02 AM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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The Border Patrol checkpoints on the highways were effective. There are only five roads out of here: Highways 80, 82, 83, 90, and 191. As long as they were there, illegals and smugglers faced a 35 to 50 mile cross-country trek to get safely beyond them. Good deterrent.

Kolbe had them closed down, so now they can catch their rides just a few miles after jumping the fence, head north and hit I-10 in comfort.
44 posted on 05/18/2003 11:27:13 AM PDT by JackelopeBreeder ("Push to test." < Click! > "Release to detonate." Oops...)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
ok, but i've driven that stetch of i-10 for years. it would not be that difficult to monitor it.

there's something going on here that we don't know about.

question, if you, or any other like-minded person, were running the detection efforts and you had the resources, you would do whatever necessary to stop the traffic?

si.

there must be big drug monies flowing into the border patrol to counter these efforts.
45 posted on 05/18/2003 11:41:05 AM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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Most of the action is within 10 miles of the border. I-10 is 47 to 77 miles north of the border as it passes through Cochise County.

Our local Border Patrol agents are good. Last year they were catching an average of 430 per night. That's a lot of prisoners to transport, process, and deport. How many large cities get that many prisoners every night? And this is just one little 80 mile stretch of the border.

Get-aways are another question. When asked about get-aways, the Border Patrol's management drones just tend to mumble. The more optimistic field agents think they catch only one-third of those crossing the border; the more pessimistic think it's more like one-fifth.

So, if you catch 430, anywhere from 860 to 1,720 are getting away every night. What is really bad is that those figures are from last year -- before Kolbe forced them to close the checkpoints. The figures are probably far worse now that they can hit their ride almost immediately.

46 posted on 05/18/2003 7:49:10 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder ("Push to test." < Click! > "Release to detonate." Oops...)
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in your opinion, could the u.s. government stop illegal immigration, if they desired?
47 posted on 05/18/2003 8:01:06 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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Yes. It is only a matter of political will.

Of course we would have to beat some common sense into our politicians first -- and fire a bunch of BP and INS high level management. (Those clowns evidently thought Dilbert was a textbook.)

Stop the border crossers as close to the fence as possible.

Deport any illegal encountered.

No more amnesties.

I actually like Mexicans. They're usually more fun than us gringos, anyway. I really have to wonder what happened to Mexican manhood, though. Individually most are still pretty macho, but as a collective group they all squat to pee. How else account for their quiet acceptance of all the corruption in their country? They're way overdue for an uprising.

I am reminded of a quote from Edward Abbey (anathema to most Freepers but he was right in many instances). Loosely,

"Deport all the illegals. But as they pass through the gate give each man a rifle, sidearm, and a case of ammunition. He'll know what to do."
48 posted on 05/18/2003 9:23:19 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder ("Push to test." < Click! > "Release to detonate." Oops...)
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