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Chapter three: the part of this saga where we're supposed to compare the "long suffering hillary! with Jackie.
1 posted on 05/18/2003 6:53:16 AM PDT by kattracks
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"Jackie came from an upper class where this kind of behavior, though not applauded by women, was widely expected by them,"

Upper class? I guess that depends on what the meaning of "class" means.

2 posted on 05/18/2003 6:57:11 AM PDT by csvset
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See..Clinton's not so bad and Hillary is a saint.
3 posted on 05/18/2003 6:58:51 AM PDT by MEG33
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No big deal Jackie was French and the best part of it she was a Democrat. Democrats have no morals, no rules, no laws, they kill babies and have no God.
4 posted on 05/18/2003 7:00:58 AM PDT by Nagual
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I do believe the dear boy forgot to mention the East German spy Kennedy was messing around with. Oh well, we can't put anything in there that might impact negatively on national security can we...

When I was a kid I thought Kennedy was 'the guy'. It's been a rather slow process over the years, but I've come to the conclusion that Kennedy was a moral wasteland. Aided by the press his true character was hidden and a make-believe version honed to build him up.

Look at the trash leaders the Democrats have foisted off on this nation in the last forty-five years. And people are upset about Bush????? He may not be perfect, but he's no John Kennedy, thank God.
6 posted on 05/18/2003 7:08:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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I guess Jackie had a "boys will be boys' outlook. What could she do? Sad. I hope Father Oscar Huber was quick with the Last Rites thing in Dallas.
7 posted on 05/18/2003 7:11:22 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kim Jong Il had ANOTHER bad underwear day . He found "decapitate" in his English-Korean dictionary.)
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We may pity the long-suffering Jacqueline Kennedy, but she knew the deal going in. The Kennedy clan was no mysterious cult among those of their social level, they were bad boys, and all the interested parties were aware of their reputation. All this only made them interesting, but not deities. The God-personas were conferred upon them by the relatively ignorant (not a few of whom were and are in the national mass media).
8 posted on 05/18/2003 7:19:18 AM PDT by alloysteel
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Spare me! Jackie was the highest priced hooker America has ever known. Old Joe Kennedy paid her [big bucks] to marry Jack and make him look responsible so he could becaome president (with Joe and the mob's help). Then, Onasis paid her big bucks to be his trophy wife.

What did Jackie care about Jack getting some on the side? He didn't bother Jackie and she was able to do what she wanted. Same as when she became JackieO.

Jackie is one of those media creations left over from their imaginary Camelot, a fable created by the left wing media to help ease the country into socialism. We will never know JFK's true agenda but Jackie was never a "partner," merely an ornament.

12 posted on 05/18/2003 7:44:58 AM PDT by Tacis
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"I can't help it. It can't be my good looks because I'm not much handsomer than anybody else," he wrote. "It must be my personality."

And being a multimillionaire had nothing to do with it, right? < Extreme heavy Sarcasm with a capitol S. >

18 posted on 05/18/2003 8:13:52 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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I knew Jack Kennedy, and you Sir are no Jack Kennedy

Dan Quale should have stood up and bragged that he wasn't. Maybe he should send an autographed copy of this book to all of the slobbering hypocritical democrats that criticized him with a notation that includes, I am no Jack Kennedy, I am better than this.
19 posted on 05/18/2003 8:20:17 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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"Kennedy's womanizing had, of course, always been a form of amusement, but now it also gave him a release from unprecedented daily tensions," Dallek writes.

Dallek calls it "release", I call it wallowing in the mud.

24 posted on 05/18/2003 8:45:32 AM PDT by cyncooper (The New York Times is not a source for truth)
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"Isn't it bad enough that you solicit this woman for my husband, but then you insult me by asking me to shake her hand!" she sniped at two aides after spotting one of her husband's sex partners on a receiving line.

To use the word "snipe" describing Jackie's remarks is odd. "To snipe" carries a negative image of the complainer. It seems she would be justified in her complaint.

25 posted on 05/18/2003 8:52:02 AM PDT by cyncooper (The New York Times is not a source for truth)
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Everybody does it.

It's all about sex

Can't we move on?

27 posted on 05/18/2003 8:58:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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This is bs. Jackie Kennedy was just as guilty as Hitlery for ignoring their husbands actions. These two, in my opinion, are and/or were not couragous women. They were, more like, what can you do for me. Long suffering, my you know what. It is total bs. They each expect and expected a payoff.
28 posted on 05/18/2003 9:17:23 AM PDT by freekitty (W)
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The New Image(a highly informed one) coming to light about Kennedy (and that whole literally damned family) is that the Kennedy Familia made a deal with Hollywood, the burgeoning Television industry as well as media elites of the NE corridor to portray a possible sex addict and serial philanderer as a Great Man after only 3 years or so in office.

Kennedy we know was for media purposes a show President who behind the wholesome and athletic image of American family, was in fact a mild cripple (Addison, his back, lots of drugs, Marilyn Monroe, Mimi, etc.).

The above combined with the eldest Kennedy male dying during a near impossible WWII mission, Ted Kennedy's Chappaqua, RFK's targeted assassination, and capping it all off in the 90's with a skiing accident and death and a plane crash killing two women on board, would seem conclusive enough proof that the Kennedy legacy was largely fabricated and that Kennedy men carry a gene which predisposes them to self destruction,along with dubious impact on the American culture.

The Myth was made possible by a huge endowment made to American Liberal Institutions which continue to propagate this Myth.

By the way, why are Liberal Democratic Presidents of this era referred to by their initials: RFK, JFK,LBJ and Republican Presidents are not: Ford, Nixon, Regan and the first President Bush.

Thankfully we are doing the liberal historians a turnabout: GWB

29 posted on 05/18/2003 9:21:32 AM PDT by Helms (Californication Beyond California)
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"While Kennedy's tomcatting has long been a source of fascination, Dallek doesn't believe it altered history."

"As far as I can tell," he wrote, "Kennedy's dalliances were no impediment to his being an effective President."

So, if it was so insignificant, how come the media gave JFK such a pass? Hmmmmmmm?

They never even alluded to it, let alone name names. If it had been a republican president, you can believe they would have blatted it all over the world, complete with interviews of the women included.

31 posted on 05/18/2003 9:38:55 AM PDT by nightdriver
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Yeah---looks like Jackie was in some ways the forerunner
to Hillary. BUT, the difference between the Kennedy political couple and the Clinton couple ends there. Kennedy was a sophisticated and intelligent man who actually had some real experience in life that shaped his personality, and was in fact a good President. Clinton is,
well, Clinton.
32 posted on 05/18/2003 9:47:27 AM PDT by willyboyishere
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...the part of this saga where we're supposed to compare the "long suffering hillary! with Jackie.

Let's not forget that we could also say, the "long suffering Bill" can be compared with Jackie too, as I'm sure that Hitlery has had as many female romps in the WH -and surrounding areas - as Bill has.

33 posted on 05/18/2003 9:49:29 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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Marion (Mimi) Beardsley Fahnestock, now a Manhattan divorcee.

I wonder how much that job pays.

34 posted on 05/18/2003 9:50:06 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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The way I heard it poor Jackie did a deal with dear old dad-in-law to stay married to his son. A lot of Jackie's pain was of her own making.
36 posted on 05/18/2003 9:59:41 AM PDT by mewzilla
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The Kennedy's and Bill Clinton are serial woman abusers. Why are Demonrats and their fellow-travelling Radical Leftists allowed to get away with giving them a free pass? I thought they believed in protecting women's human rights? Or do they? Expecting a Leftist to be intellectually honest and consistent, is like expecting Arafat to convert to Judaism.
37 posted on 05/18/2003 10:10:49 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((Resist the Leftist Media Brainwashing Machine)))
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