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The Islamic Game plan

Posted on 05/18/2003 7:08:07 AM PDT by judicial meanz

I keep hearing that Islam is a religion of peace from elected officials and the big media, but I fail to see it. With the United States and Israel constantly under attack by Islamic radicals, that argument fails to hold water.

What puzzles me more is the lack of ability on the part of the State Department to draw a line between the terrorism that the United States experiences and the terrorism Israel experiences at the hand of Islamic terrorists, and realize it part and parcel of the same line of Islamic theology that has been announced for centuries.

What we fail to realize is the American and Israeli ends of this conflict are fully linked, and have been for decades, and even centuries. The Islamic attempts to conquer the world are not news that began in our lifetime.

When we examine the timeline of Islamic conquest, we can see that since its inception, Islam has been a religion of conquest, forced conversion, and death to the few who have stood against it.

This timeline illustrates this point:

632 AD- Islamic jihadists conquer Yemen 632AD- Invasion of Abyssynia ( Ethiopia) . Islamic jihadist forces repelled. 633 AD- repeated Islamic military campaigns subdue the desert tribes of Arabia(Saudi Arabia) 635 AD- Islamic armies attack and conquer Damascus(Syria) 637- Persians(Iranians)defeated at battle of Qadisiyya by Islamic forces 637 AD-fall of Iraq 638 AD- Jerusalem falls 639 AD- Syria falls to Islamic forces 640 AD- Egypt falls into ISlamic hands, Coptic Church destroyed 688 AD- Fall of Carthage, 688 AD Islamic followers build the Dome of the Rock on the former site of the Temple of Solomon, the holiest site in Judaism and Christianity. 702 AD- Berbers in Africa captured adn converted 705-708 AD- Occupation of North Africa 711-713 AD- Capture of Spain and Portugal by Arab expansionists 715-717 AD- Afghanistan,central Asia, and the northern limit of the Caspian Sea and much of Northern India captured by Arab forces. 718 AD- Islamic forces attack France 725 AD- Islamic armies institute a seige of Toulouse, raid Burgundy and Rhone. 732 AD- Bordeaux comes under seige, and Islamic armies advance to Poitiers, where they are soundly defeated by Charles Martel.

750 AD to circa 11th Century- Period of Islamic stagnation that ends with the crusades. The crusades once again provoke the Islamic forces to conquest.

11th Century AD- Islamic forces penetrate Africa south of the Sahara 12-14 AD- islamic occupation of northern India 14-16th Centuries AD- Islamic forces conquer Indonesia 15th Century AD- Constantinople falls. 1683 AD- Battle of Vienna, Austria. Deciusive loss for Islam 1804- Islamic Forces conquer Nigeria 20th Century- Britain conqers and partitions the majority of the Middle East in the wake of WWI. 1948- Islamic self rule is re-initiated in former British colonies, as well as the founding of the Nation of Israel 1979-Present- Modern Islamic revival, and the beginnings of the War on Terror. Soviet invasion of Afghanistan begins the Islamic Muhjadeen uprising. Ayatollah Khomeini overthrows the Shah of Iran, institutes Islamic law in Iran 1982-84 AD- Attacks on US forces In Beirut, Israeli Invasion of Lebanon to stop Islamic attacks 1980's- Hostage kidnappings in Lebanon 1990's - large scale terrorist attacks against American and Israeli targets by Islamic terrorists, Persian Gulf war 2000-USS Cole attacks 2001- World trade Center attacks 2001- Afghan War 2003- Iraqi War

The Modern Islamic Revival

When we Americans think of Ayatollah Khomeini, we often think of him as an old dead man falling out of a casket in Iran on an old television clip. We seldom realize he mapped the course of the current War on Terrorism as far back as the 1940's.

Outside of our caricature of him as a naive, overwrought, emotional fanatic with stone age ideas, we seldom realize he was one of the most astute Islamic scholars of his time, and possessed a razor sharp intellect. His teachings reflect the mentality of the modern Islamic revival.

This is a direct quote:

" In order to achieve the victory of Islam in the world, we need to provoke repeated crises, restored value to the idea of death and martyrdom.If Iran has to vanish, that is not important. The important thing is to engulf the world in crises. Those who are called to export the revolution will lose their unhealthy desire for comfort and will attain the maturity needed to fulfill their mission. The road to Jerusalem goes through Kerbala( in Iraq) "

Ayatollah Khomeini, 1984

Ayatollah Khomeini was going into Islamic schools, Universities, and theological seminaries teaching this point of view, as well as the five point agenda below, as far back as 1948:

Stage 1) Iran must become an Islamic Theocratic state Stage 2) Iraq must become an Islamic Theocratic state Stage 3) Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, have to become Islamic Theocratic states. Stage 4) Jerusalem must be re-taken and the Jewish people destroyed Stage 5) The other nations of the world must be conquered and subjected to Theocratic islamic rule.

If we look at the overview, the three goals of Islam are:

1) Annexation of Jerusalem, and destruction of the jewish people. 2) Destruction of Chrisianity and all other faiths 3) Conquest of all nations worldwide.

To most muslims, the failure to achieve these objectives means the failure of Islam, and conversely, the failure of Allah. This is an unimaginable blasphemy to them.

This article is based extensively on two books.


"The False Prophet", Ellis Skolfield, Fish House Press, 2001 "Islam Reviewed, 2nd Edition", M. Ali, Fish House Publishing, 1999

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This takes a look at the religion of peace angle we are hearing in the mainstream press and government circles and debunks it as a historically peaceful religion.
1 posted on 05/18/2003 7:08:07 AM PDT by judicial meanz
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Sorry about the HTML mistakes that didnt take in the timeline. I had intended it to be a little more readable, but I am still learning.
2 posted on 05/18/2003 7:11:35 AM PDT by judicial meanz (Audaces Fortuna Juvat)
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Not all Muslims actively persue such ideals, but the Koran certainly supports them. These are the "but people." The American Muslims and many around the world condemmed 9-11, but, but, but, but, but said we provoked or caused it and while they didn't agree with it, they could certainly understand why the perps did it.

Islam, if practiced completely as taught, is not compatible with and cannot coexist with western beliefs. Here in the USA, I believe in the concept of free practice of religion, but might be willing to make an exception for Islam. As Islam grows in America, so too will conflict.

3 posted on 05/18/2003 7:49:55 AM PDT by umgud
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As I've been able to tell many Muslim people, if you want me to believe yours is a religion of peace, start rounding up the radicals that make this trouble and turn them over to the authorities. Their contribution to this should be the biggest by far. Until then, they are only building the case for their holicost.

Say it can't happen in this day and age, but someone, somewhere, someday, is going to be able to rally enough support to start deadly elimination of this threat at the cost of many innocent lives.
4 posted on 05/18/2003 7:50:29 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (If he's a cowboy, then I like cowboys)
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It isn't peaceful that is the BIGGEST LIE we are being SOLD..from Bush on down,,,

if he really wants to stop terrorist he needs to start with Islam.
5 posted on 05/18/2003 7:51:43 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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"but might be willing to make an exception for Islam"

That's good, because islam is a cult and should be treated as such. Ban islam now sould be the message!
6 posted on 05/18/2003 9:03:53 AM PDT by Imperialist
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You are correct, there is a form of islam that could survive, it would preach live and let live with religions with which it disagrees. It furthermore would not teach laying in wait until such time as they have sufficient numbers to take over and institute a theocratic state. (Which is what they do now).

We do not need to support "freedom of religion" when the religion teaches sedition and conquest. We should be infiltrating these mosques and as they teach hatred, they should be closed and their leadership placed under arrest. This should be done in every country, but certainly the USA and Iraq. Saudi take note.
7 posted on 05/18/2003 9:13:45 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom
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8 posted on 05/18/2003 9:14:46 AM PDT by Helms (Californication Beyond California)
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It seems to be seriously undesireable to have muslims become the swing vote in American elections.
9 posted on 05/18/2003 9:23:45 AM PDT by merak
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Well said. Thank you for the support (alot of people seem offended by the suggestion of banning islam as a violation of the Constitution). islam is political and therefore, not a religion at all. I am sick and tired of islam being treated as a viable religion such as Christianity or Buhdism, etc. islam is a death cult which deserves no respect. islam has been, and is a failure. islam is lying in wait as you suggest. islam is a trojan horse.

10 posted on 05/18/2003 9:27:28 AM PDT by Imperialist
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To: judicial meanz
The most heinous and barbaric crime in this world would be to stop an individual from thinking freely. And when such a crime is "legalized" in the form of a "religion," one can easily imagine how disastrous it can be.

Islam is such a religion !!!

Islam imposes a threat to the whole world ... which is far worse than deforestation, nuclear destruction or AIDS. It is an insidious, devilish disease creeping into the veins of the world. Every individual must realize the destructive and evil nature of this religion, for it eats away at the very foundation of humanity which is ...

The individual's ability to think individually and act accordingly !!!


11 posted on 05/18/2003 9:43:42 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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Excellent post. Thanks much.

('Course, my tagline fairly sums up my sentiments on the whole matter.) ;)

12 posted on 05/18/2003 4:37:59 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Islam: We're a religion of peace and we'll kill you to prove it!)
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Why do hate Bush so much?
13 posted on 05/18/2003 4:45:30 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: judicial meanz
When Islam is practiced as a religion, it is protected by US law. However, when it wanders into the political, it is no longer protected. The Muslims need to decide, is it a religion or a political movement?
14 posted on 05/18/2003 5:02:00 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
Excellent point!
18 posted on 05/18/2003 5:05:39 PM PDT by reg45
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To: judicial meanz

You are correct and we the people are being sold a BIG LIE from the elected officials and the big media.

So now the question remains....WHY?
19 posted on 05/18/2003 5:06:14 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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Here in the USA, I believe in the concept of free practice of religion, but might be willing to make an exception for Islam

No need for an exception. Simply recognize islam as a terrorist organization rather than a religion

20 posted on 05/18/2003 5:08:26 PM PDT by paul51
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