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Protesters Leave Sen. Santorum Address
AP ^ | May 18, 2003 | BILL BERGSTROM

Posted on 05/18/2003 5:29:50 PM PDT by jwalburg

PHILADELPHIA - About one in every eight graduates walked out of Sunday's commencement at Saint Joseph's University before the keynote address by Sen. Rick Santorum, who recently infuriated gay groups and others with derogatory remarks about homosexual behavior.

Santorum, the Senate's third-ranking Republican, didn't mention the walkout or the controversy directly.

"We are all called to love one another, even people we disagree with, even people who hate us for what we believe," he said.

Students were offered an opportunity to leave before Santorum was introduced to receive an honorary degree and make his speech, and about 100 graduates walked out amid competing boos and applause.

Some students had urged the Jesuit university to rescind Santorum's invitation after he likened gay behavior to bigamy, polygamy, incest and adultery in an April 7 interview with The Associated Press. He later said he intended the remarks as a legal analysis and didn't intend to comment on individual lifestyles.

"Senator Santorum and I are at completely opposite ends of the spectrum," said graduate Sara Foglesong, among those who walked out. "I am not incestuous. I am not a bigamist. I just happen to be bisexual. It offended me."

Across the street, Dennis Heffernan led a group of three counter-demonstrators. "I belong to a pro-life group, and Rick is a pro-life person," said Hoffman, of Philadelphia.


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I'm not a Catholic, so I don't know, but weren't Jesuits conservative not that long ago?
1 posted on 05/18/2003 5:29:50 PM PDT by jwalburg
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To: jwalburg
"....graduate Sara Foglesong, among those who walked out. "I am not incestuous. I am not a bigamist. I just happen to be bisexual. It offended me."

Still escapes me how one pervert can look down their nose at another who gets their jollies in different ways.

2 posted on 05/18/2003 5:32:20 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: jwalburg
Some students had urged the Jesuit university to rescind Santorum's invitation. . ."Senator Santorum and I are at completely opposite ends of the spectrum," said graduate Sara Foglesong, among those who walked out. "I...just happen to be bisexual. It offended me."

Obviously, the teachings of the Roman Church mean nothing to a student at a university of the Roman Church. How sad? If I remember correctly, Senator Santorum was only reiterating the Roman Church's position.

3 posted on 05/18/2003 5:35:06 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: jwalburg
The jesuits have all broken completely away from the traditional Catholic Church.

Best comparison ---- Jesuits is to Catholics, as hillary is to Reagan

5 posted on 05/18/2003 5:40:15 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: saramundee
Says the Creator of male and female. And I'll take His word over yours.
6 posted on 05/18/2003 5:44:46 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: jwalburg
They walked out on Donahue's address in North Carolina too! I don't see that in the headlines!!! Students said he was too liberal in his downing the USA remarks .
7 posted on 05/18/2003 5:45:18 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: jwalburg; *Catholic_list
"...likened gay behavior to bigamy, polygamy, incest and adultery..."

I see AP is still living the lie about that misquote.

I'm not a Catholic, so I don't know, but weren't Jesuits conservative not that long ago?

They've been nasty lefties at least since the 70s. If you want the right, you'd be looking for 'Opus Dei.'

8 posted on 05/18/2003 5:48:15 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: jwalburg
Although I am not certain, it would be my guess that the 100 or more students who walked out were all members of the tolerant left.
9 posted on 05/18/2003 5:52:31 PM PDT by cabbieguy (eye suport publik edukashun)
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To: jwalburg

one in every eight graduates

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10 posted on 05/18/2003 5:55:28 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Petronski
If you want the right, you'd be looking for 'Opus Dei.'

Opus Dei is left of center. They hate anything that has to to with Tradition. They are also a cult.

11 posted on 05/18/2003 5:55:33 PM PDT by Aloysius
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To: jwalburg

recently infuriated gay groups and others with derogatory remarks about homosexual behavior.

Homosexual behavior is DEROGATORY!

Texas Phys.Resource Council, Christian Med. & Dental Association, Catholic Med.Association Sodomy is an efficient method of transmitting STDs. And regardless of the reason, same-sex sodomy is far more effective in spreading STDs than opposite-sex sodomy. Multiple studies have estimated that 40 percent or more of men who practice anal sex acquire STDs. In fact, same-sex sodomy has resulted in the transformation of diseases previously transmitted only through fecally contaminated food and water into sexually caused diseases primarily among those who practice same-sex sodomy.

Homosexual behavior increases risk of AIDS - Dr. Brian J. Kopp, ... An exhaustive study in The New England Journal of Medicine, medical literature's only study reporting on homosexuals who kept sexual "diaries," indicated the average homosexual ingests the fecal material of 23 different men each year.

Medical Consequences of What Homosexuals Do FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result? --the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26 it was noted that the proportion of London gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined since 1984.

12 posted on 05/18/2003 5:57:37 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: jwalburg
weren't Jesuits conservative not that long ago?

The Jesuits were conservative up until the 1950's and then they went to the far left. They stayed on the far left and the majority of the Church has been moving closer and closer to the Jesuit position. It's very sad. They used to produce the most brilliant priests. Now their seminaries crank out a bunch of social leftists.

13 posted on 05/18/2003 5:59:31 PM PDT by Aloysius
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To: Aloysius
Help me out here, who's on the right?
14 posted on 05/18/2003 6:00:26 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: jwalburg
Santorum is my hero!
15 posted on 05/18/2003 6:06:32 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Aloysius
the Church has been moving closer and closer to the Jesuit position. It's very sad.

Pity

16 posted on 05/18/2003 6:07:53 PM PDT by jwalburg
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To: Petronski
Help me out here, who's on the right?

Anybody who hold dear the traditions of the Church. Opus Dei loves the Novus Ordo. That's not conservative.

17 posted on 05/18/2003 6:08:08 PM PDT by Aloysius
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To: jwalburg
"I am not incestuous. I am not a bigamist. I just happen to be bisexual."

Okay, you are not incestuous. You are not a bigamist. You just happen to be a pervert.
18 posted on 05/18/2003 6:08:59 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Beware the Rodham Fedayeen!)
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To: Aloysius
Anybody who hold dear the traditions of the Church.

Yes, well, that begs the question. Do you know the NAME of such a group?

19 posted on 05/18/2003 6:10:24 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Aloysius
Opus Dei is left of center. They hate anything that has to to with Tradition. They are also a cult.

Opus Dei's founder, Jose Maria Escriva, is a saint. He also insisted on obedience to the Holy Father, something your SSPX sect ignores.

20 posted on 05/18/2003 6:11:51 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Bigg Red
Nah... She is a pig that wants twice as many chances to get lucky on any given night!
21 posted on 05/18/2003 6:13:44 PM PDT by JonH
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To: saramundee
Pervert? Says who? There is quite a difference between incest and homosexuality. Why so concerned with consenting adults sex lives? Never could understand why we let this issue define us. Is it hurting you? NO! Time to move on to real issues.

This statment is absolutely ignorant. You do not understand because you refuse to accept that there are people who believe in God and his word.

Truth is the defining issue here, but you would rather people be selfish and lie. You would rather people be kept in the dark because you say what others do does not effect them. It effects all of us because it changes the normality, and reality of relationships, not to mention the ever changing defining of our language.

There is a concern because it is the epitome of selfishness and perversion. It'a too bad your closemindedness can not see what is real.

Incest and Homosexuality are cut from the same cloth of selfish perverted desire, and I do not accept either as part of normality.

22 posted on 05/18/2003 6:21:25 PM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: saramundee
When the "deviants" stop insinuating "their" sexuality on US, then indeed, will we be able to move on! This is, surely, much ado about nothing! Lack of discernment, it would seem, is contagious!
23 posted on 05/18/2003 6:25:29 PM PDT by old school
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To: anniegetyourgun
Talked to God recently about this, have you?


shred
24 posted on 05/18/2003 6:27:27 PM PDT by shred
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To: Petronski
Do you know the NAME of such a group?

Yes. The HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, where there are no secrets, no cults, no hidden pasts.

25 posted on 05/18/2003 6:33:47 PM PDT by Aloysius
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To: jwalburg
Santorum didn't say what the lunatic leftwing sexual politicians say he did, and there's been ample opportunity for everyone to bother to find that out.

Folks who continue on in the vein of this crowd are demonstrating no more than that the use of heavy, brain-damaging narcotics is rampant on campus these days, and the schools are letting down our graduates by leaving them unable to read, think, analyze and come to conclusions which are anything other than political slogans.

Thankfully most employers require new hires out of college to go through serious re-training, so the worst of these folks should be filtered out of the system, or fixed, before they can do much damage.

26 posted on 05/18/2003 6:35:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Aloysius
Forget it, forget the whole thing. LOL
27 posted on 05/18/2003 6:35:52 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: jwalburg
The 100 students, who threw hissy fits and walked out, would make great RAT legislators in Texas. When confronted with something they don't like, they flee.
28 posted on 05/18/2003 6:35:55 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: sinkspur
Opus Dei's founder, Jose Maria Escriva, is a saint.

Yes, but that doesn't make his little secret club conservative. You're letting your emotions get you off track - stick to the subject matter.

29 posted on 05/18/2003 6:36:34 PM PDT by Aloysius
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To: Aloysius
You're letting your emotions get you off track - stick to the subject matter.

And you're allowing rumors about the Tridentine Mass stoke visions in your head that the clock is about to be turned back to 1940.

You'd best dispel that myth.

30 posted on 05/18/2003 6:39:58 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: saramundee
Pervert? Says who? There is quite a difference between incest and homosexuality. Why so concerned with consenting adults sex lives? Never could understand why we let this issue define us. Is it hurting you? NO! Time to move on to real issues.

Considering that I (a taxpayer) have to pay for AIDS treatment, and Social Security disability for the results of gay perversion, it is a concern.

31 posted on 05/18/2003 6:45:08 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: jwalburg
I went to a Catholic all girl's high school. I can remember the Jesuit priest lecturing us on masturbation as a BIG sin. Our school priest told us that a kiss over 10 seconds was a BIG sin. God knows what happened to the Jesuit priest but the school priest left the order and married a nun. So much for lectures!!
32 posted on 05/18/2003 6:45:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: jwalburg
One-eighth protesting isn't so bad for a college crowd, and that is assuming that this report is even accurate. If this had been held a few miles away at Penn a lot more than that would have left. I don't think St. Joe's is churning out as many brainwashed little Stepford leftists as its academic quota requires.
33 posted on 05/18/2003 6:48:25 PM PDT by speedy
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And you're allowing rumors about the Tridentine Mass stoke visions in your head that the clock is about to be turned back to 1940.

The rumors are insignificant to me. In my little corner of the world, priests don't rape boys, bishops don't peddle smut, lesbian "nuns" don't run parishes, and losers looking to fill a void in their life, don't use the Eucharist as a means to making them "somebody".

34 posted on 05/18/2003 6:50:06 PM PDT by Aloysius
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To: saramundee
This young bisexual woman said she is not a 'bigamist' like there was some distance between the two behaviors.


This begs the question of why should she think herself morally superior to a bigamist.

"Never could understand why we let this issue define us. Is it hurting you? " It's hurting all of us for the Constitution to be mis-construed. Santorum was standing up for sanity by pointing out the folly of some unrrestricted right of sexual liberty being rednered into the constitution - where would it end? Laws against incest and bigamy could be struck down, if you follow the legal logic of the "consenting behavior is a constitutional right" crowd. That crowd is wrong, on the facts, on philosophy, and on the law. The Liberal media have deliberately mis-stated Santorum's intentions because bashing conservatives is the media blood sport. We should stand by Santorum or insanity will reign in the Federal courts.

35 posted on 05/18/2003 6:51:43 PM PDT by WOSG (Free Iraq! Free Cuba, North Korea, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Tibet, China...)
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To: Remedy
I've seen that posted before.
36 posted on 05/18/2003 6:54:27 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Diaperload: Band managed by David after Spinal Tapís 1982 tour ended in disaster.)
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To: JonH
When will these people go back into the closet?
37 posted on 05/18/2003 6:54:28 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Beware the Rodham Fedayeen!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
They must just let ANYONE who has tuition money into
St Joe's these days! They're protesting a Catholic College's inviting someone who proclaims Catholic theology!
38 posted on 05/18/2003 7:10:52 PM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: jwalburg
I am not incestuous. I am not a bigamist. I just happen to be bisexual. It offended me."

She must be a moderate...can't make up her mind in politics or in her sex partners.

39 posted on 05/18/2003 7:12:07 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: Bigg Red
they are on their way to gaydays at disney parks on June 3-9, 2003 first.

Homosexuality is a fetish. Parents need to know that it can be prevented. Children need to learn how to resist recruiters like Glsen and the gay/straight clubs in the public schools. (please save the homeschool comments, private school acomplishes the same task too.)
40 posted on 05/18/2003 7:26:53 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: xsmommy
Ping for confused graduates at a Catholic college. These kids need to buy a vowel. Or better yet, reimburse their parents.
41 posted on 05/18/2003 8:04:09 PM PDT by secret garden (Go Spurs Go! On to the finals!)
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To: Remedy
FECAL SEX

I sure hope that with this post we can agree that this topic has been exhausted.

Please?!

42 posted on 05/18/2003 8:08:57 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: anniegetyourgun
I would bet that this uber leftist and her 99 comrades don't follow the Catholic teachings at all and in fact work to undermine the church.
43 posted on 05/18/2003 8:09:22 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: saramundee
Pervert? Says who? There is quite a difference between incest and homosexuality

Truly. Explain rationally to me, if you can, why homosexuality would be morally superior to say, bigamy, or say, consensual incest. What exactly elevates it in your mind above the practices Santorum named? Certainly you are aware that in many places in the present world, as well as many times in the past bigamy was normative. You cannot be oblivious to the fact that incest is "often" practised between consenting adults.

When you actually have a logical argument in place of your emotional attachments, then come back. Santorum made a valid point that's been distorted for the benefit of establishing [or maintaining] a special place for one particular sexual deviance at the expense of all others. But just becuase it's more popular, that doesn't lend it any moral weight.

44 posted on 05/18/2003 8:22:39 PM PDT by FredZarguna
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To: RAT Patrol
Santorum is my Hero too ! Oh if God could send us more like him to Washington ! It has been so long since someone there had the guts to call it like it is. They are so afraid of losing a vote. How it must drain their cowardly souls.
45 posted on 05/18/2003 8:41:23 PM PDT by OREALLY
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To: saramundee
Pervert, says Mr. Sigmund Freud in"Human Sexuality"
46 posted on 05/18/2003 8:43:28 PM PDT by agite rem mente
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To: jwalburg
They're friggin' college students that don't know Diddle E. Squat yet.
47 posted on 05/18/2003 8:49:49 PM PDT by b4its2late (Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.)
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To: saramundee
God said they are an abomination. I say they are pervert freaks. Families can't take their kids to parks any more because these filthy PERVERTS are having sex all over the place. And (WHO) says one diviant sex act is better than another ? Kids are getting so messed up about their sexual indenties. THEY ARE PERVERTS "SAYS ME !!!!"
48 posted on 05/18/2003 8:50:09 PM PDT by OREALLY
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To: shred
Just reading the manual. He's the Creator, He knows what's best for health and life. But if you want to make it up to suit yourself, your god is too small.
49 posted on 05/19/2003 3:30:03 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: jwalburg
I'm not a Catholic, so I don't know, but weren't Jesuits conservative not that long ago?

Jesuits have always had a reputation for being conservative, but since Vatican II many have largely chosen the easier path of a more “liberal” theology. Jesuits Colleges may still be run by Jesuits, but you’ll probably find more atheists than Jesuits teaching in them – and this was true in 1974 when I graduated from Loyola College in Baltimore, a Jesuit school.

50 posted on 05/19/2003 4:10:06 AM PDT by bimbo
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