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Speaker disrupts RC graduation [NY Times Reporter Chris Hedges & his anti-war diatribe]
The Rockford Register Star ^ | May 20,2003 | Carrie Watters

Posted on 05/20/2003 7:09:09 AM PDT by SlickWillard

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:24:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A New York Times reporter delivers an antiwar speech that offended many.

ROCKFORD — New York Times reporter Chris Hedges was booed off the stage Saturday at Rockford College’s graduation because he gave an antiwar speech.

Two days later, graduates and family members, envisioning a “go out and make your mark” send-off, are still reeling.


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KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antiamericanwar; commencements; indoctrination; lefthismark; lovedclintonswars; notapeacemovement; pc; peedinthepool; politicallycorrect; propalestinianwar; prosaddam; ruineditforeveryone; saddamite; stalinsusefulidiots; unamerican
It looks like Hedges writes for the "Public Lives" column at the Times:
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?ppds=ctax&v1=Top%2fNews%2fNew%20York%20Region%2fColumns%2fPublic%20Lives
Other Hedges stuff here:
http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=chris+hedges

1 posted on 05/20/2003 7:09:10 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
More of the same from the Old Grey Lady. May she soon fall over dead.
2 posted on 05/20/2003 7:18:58 AM PDT by lizbet (Ready to go?)
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To: SlickWillard
Ordinary people are getting a bellyfull of this crap.
3 posted on 05/20/2003 7:19:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Lib speakers have always used the college commencement speech as bully pulpit, which is totally inappropriate, IMHO. Its about time that people started getting sick of it and complained.

LQ
4 posted on 05/20/2003 7:21:08 AM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: Howlin
You might want to ping the list on this one. Sheesh!
5 posted on 05/20/2003 7:21:40 AM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Ordinary people are getting a bellyfull of this crap.

Glad they're catching up with me.

6 posted on 05/20/2003 7:22:57 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: SlickWillard
Hedges, a war correspondent, criticized military heroic ideals that grow during war. The fervor sacrifices individual thought for temporarily belonging to something larger, he said.

Ironic statement coming from a liberal/socialist.

5.56mm

7 posted on 05/20/2003 7:25:43 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: LizardQueen
It's for the graduates and their families. For these speakers to marginalize the graduates and force them to walk out rather than be a captive audience to their agenda is shameful.

8 posted on 05/20/2003 7:31:32 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: SlickWillard
If a graduation speaker unexpectedly started giving a racists speech, you could be sure he'd be booed off the stage with the support of the left.

Well, a lot of left-wing boilerplate has become as offensive as racism to much of America. They're free to say it; they just shouldn't expect a friendly reception.
9 posted on 05/20/2003 7:33:55 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: SlickWillard
read later
10 posted on 05/20/2003 7:35:07 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: SlickWillard
Oh geez. Hedges is a Colgate alumnus. What an embarassment to my university!!! :(
11 posted on 05/20/2003 7:52:46 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (That's my theory and I'm sticking to it! At least for the present . . .)
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To: BartMan1
Heh heh heh...
12 posted on 05/20/2003 8:12:34 AM PDT by IncPen
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To: SlickWillard
You spend four years working your ass off for a degree, and your big day is blown by some loud mouth, classless, pompous jackass who thinks his trite bellyaching is somehow more important than the event.
13 posted on 05/20/2003 8:17:39 AM PDT by dead
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To: SlickWillard
It's tough judge this without knowing the content of the speech, but the snips of the speech show someone in lecture mode. It is obviously counter-productive to hijack a platform given under the guise of celebrating achievement to go into a rant. He could have said something briefly about the war or the desire for peace that would have resonated.

As is all too common with the "enlightened" crowd, arrogance and self righteousness rule the day.

14 posted on 05/20/2003 8:20:37 AM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"Elinor Radlund of Rockford read Hedges’ book on war and was horrified at what she said was the audience’s rude behavior. She was indignant she couldn’t hear the speaker.

“They were not behaving as people in an academic setting, where you’re supposed to be open to a great many ideas,” Radlund said.


Right, sweety. Why don't you try marching into any classroom on any college or university in this country and give a speech on why you like the Republican Party and why you think Bush is doing a great job as President.

See how far that gets you...

15 posted on 05/20/2003 8:54:00 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic
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To: dead
You spend four years working your ass off for a degree, and your big day is blown by some loud mouth, classless, pompous jackass who thinks his trite bellyaching is somehow more important than the event.

You mean like this?


16 posted on 05/20/2003 8:54:18 AM PDT by bourbon
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To: SlickWillard
Hedges sympathized with U.S. soldiers. He characterized them as boys from places such as Mississippi and Arkansas who joined the military because there were no job opportunities.

I bet Hedges sympathizes with folks from Mississippi and Arkansas about as much as he sympathizes with GW Bush. In light of these uneducated comments, one wonders if Hedges has actually ever met anyone from Arkansas or Mississippi.

The hard truth, Mr. Hedges, is "boys from places like these" are in Iraq b/c they love our country and they want to protect it. Your economic explotitation argument is patently ridiculous, and it stands as an insult to the very soldiers you describe.
17 posted on 05/20/2003 9:01:16 AM PDT by bourbon
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To: SlickWillard
It's the last time these academics can shove their agenda down the throats of their captive, tution paying, audience. It's hard for them to let go.
18 posted on 05/20/2003 9:09:43 AM PDT by CaptainK
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To: firebrand; StarFan; Dutchy; stanz; RaceBannon; Cacique; Clemenza; rmlew; NYC GOP Chick; Oschisms; ..
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19 posted on 05/20/2003 9:11:23 AM PDT by nutmeg (USA: Land of the Free - Thanks to the Brave)
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To: bourbon
Exactly like that.
20 posted on 05/20/2003 9:12:11 AM PDT by dead
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To: nutmeg
"“This is a ceremony. ... The day belongs to the students. It doesn’t belong to a political view,” he said.

Thanks for all of your pings..

21 posted on 05/20/2003 9:17:35 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: SlickWillard
Phil Donahue, Jessica Lange, NYT Hedges are Communists, imo.

This puts their speeches in perspective and in this light doesnt' rile me. What I think upsets most is they haven't made the distinction and believe they are U.S. citizens and are confounded as to why an American can think like they do.

Well, they're not Capitalists. They're Communists and They Are Among Us.

22 posted on 05/20/2003 9:18:27 AM PDT by rvoitier (There's too many ALs in this world: Al Qaeda Al Jezeera Al Gore Al Sharpton Al Franken)
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To: bourbon
Mr. Hedges proudly displays his condescending concern for those poor ignorant souls south of the Mason Dixon, who grew up with neither the intellectual capacity nor the old line money that he and his brethren at Harvard had in spades.

But don't be cross with his compassion. He loves those sad little people as much as he truly loves the poor brown children who will surely whither and die if not for his championing of their sorry lot in life.

23 posted on 05/20/2003 9:22:02 AM PDT by dead
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To: SlickWillard
What the heck did Rockford College expect? Chris Hedges has spent over a decade covering wars in every corner of the world, nearly getting killed any number of times. He hates war, and has spoken eloquently of its curious attraction as well as its horror. I haven't read his book but saw him on C-Span and found him a fascinating and compelling speaker.

If you don't want that kind of thing--if you just want rah-rah nationalism, pick a different commencement speaker. To be sure, one can make the case that that's exactly what RC should have done. Hedges would be a superb choice for some other context, perhaps, but maybe not what they had in mind for commencement. In which case, the knuckleheads who invited him should have done their homework instead of unplugging the guy's mike. How contemptible. How stupid.
24 posted on 05/20/2003 9:22:46 AM PDT by ArcLight
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To: SlickWillard
It was a commencement speech, f'Petessake, not open mike night at the Improv. There is a monumental arrogance among the politically committed that is ultimately more of an expression of self than of politics, and that is the assumption that what is important to me should be important to everyone.

I like beer, making it and drinking it, I really do. But were I invited to give a commencement address at the local diploma mill with the proviso that I could talk about anything I wanted, I'd think it an imposition and a breach of propriety to spend the entire address on the virtues of dry-hopping. The focus is, and ought to be, on the students and their future and this rite of passage toward that end, not the speaker's own private obsessions, even if he (gasp!) writes for the NY Times. (We are not worthy.) This is a matter of such basic common courtesy that I really have to wonder what Mr. Hedges was thinking of here, aside from himself.

25 posted on 05/20/2003 9:23:16 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SlickWillard
So an anti-war diatribe by an outsider at a graduation ceremony is "freedom of speech", but a graduate who doesn't like it and shows that by throwing his cap on gown on stage is "inappropriate behavior". Riiiiight.
26 posted on 05/20/2003 9:28:46 AM PDT by MJemison
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To: dead
But don't be cross with his compassion. He loves those sad little people as much as he truly loves the poor brown children who will surely whither and die if not for his championing of their sorry lot in life.

Man, you really have the condescending liberal compassion thing nailed! I would swear that you were channeling Howard Metzenbaum or something. :-)
27 posted on 05/20/2003 9:30:44 AM PDT by bourbon
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To: ArcLight
Anti-American bilge is having a down market. This jerk is lucky he didn't have one of the unenlightened kick his sorry @$$ all the way back to NYC.

Does the Times hire anyone who is not a certifiable liar?
28 posted on 05/20/2003 9:42:50 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: ArcLight
Sticking up for a traitor like Hedges really shows what a dumbass you really are.
29 posted on 05/20/2003 9:48:15 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: SlickWillard
Invite a commie rat from the nyt to give a graduation speech, and you have to expect he'll give a typical commie rant. It's really too bad the grads didn't lynch him.
30 posted on 05/20/2003 10:06:34 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SlickWillard
And College President Paul Pribbenow is rethinking the wisdom of such controversial topics at future commencements...
Here is a book from Amazon.com that President Pribbenow ought to add to his summer reading list:
Onward! : 25 Years of Advice, Exhortation, and Inspiration from America's Best Commencement Speeches
by Peter Smith
Editorial Reviews

Amazon.com
"...The last, and potentially most meaningful, bit of education your college throws your way comes at the very moment you're least likely to hear and comprehend it, let alone contemplate and cogitate on it. No, it's not in that 8 a.m. lecture class or evening seminar, but out among your fellow graduates on commencement day. There you are, resplendent in your cap and gown, ostensibly listening to someone famous and wise, but more likely awash in the exhilarations, fears, and hangovers of graduation. When you stride proudly into the sunset with your diploma, it's unlikely that you'll carry with you any of that carefully honed commencement address.

And that's a shame. Commencement speeches, historically, contain more nuggets of wisdom and insight than most spoken words you're likely to have heard or likely to hear. So we owe Peter J. Smith a considerable amount of gratitude for culling the best of the myriad observations and admonitions that have been aired at graduations over the last 25 years. The result is a remarkable anthology, replete with perspicacious bits that transcend the years, and imbued with historical markers that reflect the social and political changes of the past quarter century..."

Or, he can get ANOTHER "anti-war" loser NEXT year...
31 posted on 05/20/2003 10:15:02 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: SlickWillard; spetznaz; Gunrunner2; Howlin; Kevin Curry; Poohbah
LOL.

"“They were not behaving as people in an academic setting, where you’re supposed to be open to a great many ideas,” Radlund said."

WTF!!!

Where in the hell did this nitwit get that idea...that people go to school to listen to other peoples ideas [not facts]. You go to school to learn facts. A philosophy class can be a forum for tolerating such nonsense but just because it is an academic setting doesnt mean there is an inherent milktoast unopinionated audience for you to vent towards without reaction. What if the audience had applauded loudly....would that have been the appropriate response in an academic setting? People are aloud to agree with everything in an academic setting but they must not disagree with anything?

Apparently freedom of speech only extends to the opening statement of a dialogue not the rebuttal/response. Individuals spouting a supremely minor viewpoint have the right to free speech but the masses who respond do not?

Liberls have got it twisted.



...and deep down, you know I love it. ;o)

32 posted on 05/20/2003 10:19:44 AM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: SlickWillard
See also:
Speaker disrupts RC graduation [NYT reporter Chris Hedges booed off the stage]
      Posted by TomGuy
On 05/20/2003 10:01 AM PDT with 11 comments


Rockford Register Star ^ | May 20, 2003 | CARRIE WATTERS
     
 
Speaker disrupts RC graduation [NY Times Reporter Chris Hedges & his anti-war diatribe]
      Posted by SlickWillard
On 05/20/2003 7:09 AM PDT with 31 comments


The Rockford Register Star ^ | May 20,2003 | Carrie Watters

33 posted on 05/20/2003 10:21:31 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: VaBthang4
Liberals are SHOCKED that people are NOT required to listen to their drivel.

I don't know about you, but the more articles I read about people getting up and fighting back at these addresses, the more hopeful I am.

This must be about the fifth one I've read since Sunday!

We ARE making progress -- and at the college level even!
34 posted on 05/20/2003 10:22:19 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: ArcLight
If you don't want that kind of thing--if you just want rah-rah nationalism, pick a different commencement speaker

Why would either one be appropriate for a commencement ceremony?

Commencement speeches should be confined to the honor achieved, "the path ahead" < /trite >, and advice and anecdotes relating to each. And they should also be BRIEF.

They are not the place for an ideologue (of any stripe) to berate the people in the audience who believe differently. And that's what he did. The graduates were there for a diploma, not a goddamn lecture. The parents in the audience had spent a huge wad of money getting their kids through school and it was an insult from the school--the people who TOOK their money--to expect them to sit politely through the harangue.

Chris Hedges is lucky they only unplugged his microphone, and didn't beat him senseless with it.

I'm not kidding either.

35 posted on 05/20/2003 10:49:40 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: bourbon
Well done!That's who came to my mind when I read that.
36 posted on 05/20/2003 10:50:26 AM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug, Holier -Than -Thou Socialist)
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To: SlickWillard
“War in the end is always about betrayal. Betrayal of the young by the old, of soldiers by politicians and idealists by cynics,”

Will we ever stop hearing these 60's cliches? Sounds like some of our college students also know it's about duty, honor, and country.

37 posted on 05/20/2003 10:55:38 AM PDT by pierrem15
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To: ArcLight
Chris Hedges is a standard-issue NYT leftist who hates not only America, but Israel too. See here for a description of his journalistic mendacity. However, regarding your point that whoever invited him should have expected what they got, I agree. Hedges is a known quantity. One would expect him to assume that, commissioned for a performance, the patrons would expect him to perform the material that made him a star. If you hired Rodney Dangerfield for a commencement address, you would expect him to tell some jokes. If you hire Chris Hedges, you should expect a blast of Manhattan leftism. Your argument is quite sound.
38 posted on 05/20/2003 11:19:21 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: SlickWillard
Pribbenow said Rockford College takes no political stance, but the job is to challenge students. He reminded audience members of the liberal arts college’s commitment to listening to other viewpoints.

Commencement speeches before a captive audience with no chance for rebuttal do not fall into this category, clymer.
39 posted on 05/20/2003 11:53:01 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Beware the Rodham Fedayeen!)
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To: SlickWillard
Make your voice heard. Send an e-mail to the Rockford Alumni contact (the only contact available online): jill_huron@rockford.edu

Here is what I sent:

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The pretense used as justification by the college for its recent commencement speaker is a hollow excuse to permit a partisan speaker to politicize an event that should have offered a universal message for all students. This is not a "freedom of speech" issue. Everyone has the right to speak. You must Earn the right to be listened to. Not only was the speaker a failure at his line of work- injecting bias into reporting that ought to be impartial- but you don't earn the right to speak before students by mouthing liberal platitudes and spreading hateful anti-Americanism that gives rise to violence. To justify such a poor choice by "freedom of speech" would mean that the David Dukes of the world should address college students because, after all, we should be open to "new and different ideas". No, the choice of a commencement speaker must be made judiciously- a biased speaker with a partisan message does not meet the minimum standards required.
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40 posted on 05/20/2003 11:53:15 AM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: ArcLight
If Hedges has been shell-shocked from one too many wars (despite never doing any fighting or taking a bullet) and now cannot resist injecting his opinion into his reporting on the subject, he should be moved into editorial. He has no business doing straight news. But of course, the New York Times has been exposed as the equivalent of the National Enquirer so I suppose anything goes.
41 posted on 05/20/2003 11:54:56 AM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: bourbon
Ow!Ow!Ow!Ow! My eyes! Why did you make me look at that pile?
42 posted on 05/20/2003 11:55:25 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Beware the Rodham Fedayeen!)
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To: ArcLight
In which case, the knuckleheads who invited him should have done their homework instead of unplugging the guy's mike. How contemptible. How stupid.

Chris Hedges has not hidden his dislike for war. His position could easily be discovered if not already known. Of course we'll never know, but I think Mr. Pribbenow knew exactly what he was getting, and may feel the same way Hedges does but did not get the response from a college crowd he expected. Based on this paragraph below I think he was wanting to stir the pot but got burned:

"She turned to Pribbenow and asked him why he was letting the speech continue. He said it was freedom of speech. Pribbenow later said when people stop listening to ideas, even controversial ones, it is the death of institutions like 157-year-old Rockford College."

43 posted on 05/20/2003 1:18:04 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: bourbon

"Look, ma! No hands!"

44 posted on 05/20/2003 1:51:09 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Howlin
"We ARE making progress -- and at the college level even!"

And thats after just 2 years of the current administration. As it stands now, looks like we're gonna have 6 more years.

6 years from now, hopefully, these liberal speakers will be out of fashion as commencement speakers.

45 posted on 05/20/2003 5:09:04 PM PDT by Rebelbase (220, 221 whatever it takes.)
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To: SlickWillard
I'm sorry for the Rockford graduates who had to listen to that idiot rant instead of commemorating their accomplishment. I'm glad they had more sense than the Tugaloo (?) graduates who went wild with applause when another primate, Ben Cohen, stole the show.
46 posted on 05/20/2003 7:44:08 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: SlickWillard; dead; hellinahandcart; RonDog; Bigg Red
Click for Audio (MP3) of the obnoxious Hedges speech.

If any of you are masochists and do listen to this, please give me a report. I have slow connection, and I don't want to D/L this large MP3 file. Thanks!
47 posted on 05/21/2003 1:48:39 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: bourbon
I don't want to download it either, but dixiechick2000 posted a transcript of it over here.
48 posted on 05/21/2003 3:19:00 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
thanks! I actually found the transcript not long after I posted it. It would be fun to hear the boos and the guy interrupting him though. LOL!
49 posted on 05/21/2003 4:31:52 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: SlickWillard
"Speaker disrupts RC graduation [NY Times Reporter Chris Hedges & his anti-war diatribe]"

Orwell, paging George Orwell!

50 posted on 05/21/2003 4:35:14 PM PDT by breakem
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