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The Unpatriotic University: Yale
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| 5/22/03
| Paul Walfield
Posted on 05/22/2003 4:55:33 AM PDT by westgirl123
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To: Dave S
I'm sorry, but I really do not think you are on solid ground here...
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posted on
05/22/2003 12:56:58 PM PDT
by
sauropod
(No fan of the Patriot Act (either I or II))
To: Vin Fiz
Unitarians are not Christians, and neither were the founding fathers They thought they were (except for Ethan Allan and Thomas Paine who said they were not Christians). The confusion arises because Unitarians do not believe in the Nicene Creed. They are heretics but they are Christian heretics who trace their cause to Arian in the 4th century A.D.
Jefferson annotated the New Testament because he saw Christ as the perfect teacher (Unitarians tend toward Judaism in that respect. Jesus was a reforming rabbi). Thomas was purifying Christianity just as he, and others, were purifying politics--stripping it of blind obedience and a ruling class.
Today most Unitarians are not Christian of course. But they were in Jefferson's day. Those who were more liberal and did not view Christ as the center of their beliefs belonged to the Universalist church . The headquarters of both were only a few blocks apart in Boston. Don't believe any of the founders were Universalists.
Curiously enough, one year after Jefferson expressed his wish that all Americans would become Unitarians, there was a fierce battle in Massachusetts between Universalists and Unitarians. The latter were supported by state taxes. The Universalists wanted to change the state constitution and prohibit that practice. Daniel Webster, a Unitarian himself, argued the church served a useful function and deserved state support. He won. But not for long. By the mid 1830s, state financing of churches was ended in the state.
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posted on
05/22/2003 1:33:02 PM PDT
by
DPB101
To: Hobsonphile
"..I got the extermination blues, jewboys. I got the hitler syndrome figured. This same Amiri Baraka was named poet laureate of the state of New Jersey and honored by Yale."
New Jersey? Yikes! The German-American Bundt group (those who followed Hitler's goal to attain a superior race) had their "summer camp" meetings in Riverdale, New Jersey during WW2.
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posted on
05/23/2003 3:09:58 AM PDT
by
Susannah
(If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao; you ain't gonna make it with anyone, anyhow. ~ Beatles)
To: nutmeg
read later bump
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posted on
05/23/2003 9:22:15 PM PDT
by
nutmeg
(USA: Land of the Free - Thanks to the Brave)
To: DPB101
You got a lot of it right, but the part about them being Christian in Jefferson's day. They became called Unitarian because they were deists (like Jefferson although he came from a part of the world that was by law Church of England until freedom happened) and hence Uni-tarian, believing in one, not three gods. Jesus, like Mohammed and Buddha, was a good teacher and perhaps a prophet, but a man, not a god.
Franklin had no use for religion, but couldn't say so openly. Both he and Jefferson were probably the brightest of the lot and were extremely well read and knew of the progressive French thinkers. He was a scientist, and therefore, a thinking man and a skeptic.
Then, like now, if you openly profess atheism, you couldn't get elected or appointed to anything. You're obviously dangerous if you don't believe what the leader or the party believes in. Again, like today.
I think it was Scalia, or one of the bench warmers who wrote an article stating that Christianity and Democracy were inconsistent. And whomever it was, was a devout Christian. Think about that for a moment.
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posted on
05/27/2003 4:40:59 PM PDT
by
Vin Fiz
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