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Ridge says unmanned drones could be patrolling borders by end of the year
SFGate ^ | 5/22/03 | JESSE J. HOLLAND

Posted on 05/22/2003 2:55:56 PM PDT by IronKros

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Unmanned aerial drones similar to ones used in the war on Iraq could be patrolling the U.S. border by the end of the year to help stem illegal immigration and increase security, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said Thursday.

"We are very serious in looking at UAV (unmanned aerial vehicles) for both border applications, land and sea," Ridge told the House Select Committee on Homeland Security.


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TOPICS: Announcements; Government
KEYWORDS: borderhawk; borderpatrol; homelandsecurity; illegalimmigration; tomridge; uav
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Whoohooo
1 posted on 05/22/2003 2:55:57 PM PDT by IronKros
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To: IronKros
Good news!
2 posted on 05/22/2003 2:57:37 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: IronKros
Outstanding first step.

Second step is to arm the UAVs.
3 posted on 05/22/2003 2:58:16 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Free Miguel and Priscilla!)
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To: IronKros
I hope they are carrying light machineguns and Hellfire missiles.

So9

4 posted on 05/22/2003 2:59:05 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: So Cal Rocket
I would say thank you to the vigilantes in Arizona for starting this project.
5 posted on 05/22/2003 2:59:37 PM PDT by IronKros
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To: IronKros
That just kicks! My hubby and I were talking about how we should control the borders. He said that we don't have the manpower. I said, we have the technology, give it time.

I win, I win!!!
(pretty good considering it was housewife against IT guy)
[but I am the FReeper!]
6 posted on 05/22/2003 3:00:22 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray for our troops)
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To: MEG33
This is the best news I've had in a long time,I just hope it really happens.

The problem of illegal immigration is equal to the problem of terrorism as far as I'm concerned. We are in difficult economic times and yet these people keep coming and coming.
7 posted on 05/22/2003 3:01:12 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: IronKros
"I would say thank you to the vigilantes in Arizona for starting this project."

Gee, wonder whose plan will be cheaper?

/sarcasm

8 posted on 05/22/2003 3:01:23 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Howlin
Unmanned drones ..Ridge says will be used on the borders.
9 posted on 05/22/2003 3:02:07 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: madfly; JackelopeBreeder; Spiff; Joe Hadenuf; DoughtyOne; Poohbah
ping
10 posted on 05/22/2003 3:02:37 PM PDT by dirtboy (someone kidnapped dirtboy and replaced him with an exact replica)
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To: IronKros
American Patrol & Glenn Spencer. Your people have got this government to respond. Thanks also to the Tombstone Tumbleweed. Thank you, Tom Tancredo & a special thanks to the Americans who are ready to make this the biggest issue in he next election.
11 posted on 05/22/2003 3:06:30 PM PDT by Digger
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To: MEG33
Oh! Interesting. Thanks for the ping!
12 posted on 05/22/2003 3:07:18 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Tinfoil NWO Order Satire Comment: State Borders or National Borders? Gotta be clear here... ;-)
13 posted on 05/22/2003 3:08:47 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (It's not nice to fool Mr. Rumsfeld!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Well, we here in NC *would* like to discuss South Carolina with Mr. Ridge.......LOL.
14 posted on 05/22/2003 3:10:59 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Normal4me
It could get real expensive when we start dropping water bottles for the illegal immigrants. Evian isn't cheap!
15 posted on 05/22/2003 3:11:23 PM PDT by IronKros (wake the mokey and show him a dollar)
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To: IronKros
I would say thank you to the vigilantes in Arizona for starting this project.

I was thinking that exact same thing when I saw the headline.

One man really can make a difference, thanks Tombstone Tumbleweed!

16 posted on 05/22/2003 3:11:47 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Press Secret; Of 2 million Shiite pilgrims, only 3000 chanted anti Americanisms--source-Islamonline!)
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To: IronKros
Thank God they're talking about doing SOMETHING!!!
17 posted on 05/22/2003 3:12:43 PM PDT by demkicker (I wanna kick some commie butt)
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To: IronKros
bump
18 posted on 05/22/2003 3:20:40 PM PDT by meema
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To: Normal4me
Just read about the Arizona project here last night. Way to go Arizona. I think we all know whose plan will be cheaper LOL
19 posted on 05/22/2003 3:21:06 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: IronKros
"It could get real expensive when we start dropping water bottles for the illegal immigrants"

True. Not to mention the impending lawsuits from the water being too warm. Hey, maybe we could dispatch some of those planes that drop water on forest fires!


20 posted on 05/22/2003 3:24:27 PM PDT by Normal4me (I am a militant conservative according to Petah Jennings. I LIKE it!)
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To: IronKros
Hmmmm...This guy and Tom Ridge look alike...


21 posted on 05/22/2003 3:30:27 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: IronKros
So we will have all this new intelligence and the INS will do....what?
22 posted on 05/22/2003 3:45:13 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: IronKros
These are not the droids you are looking for.
23 posted on 05/22/2003 3:48:14 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: IronKros; Dark Wing
They'll figure out a way to turn this into a boondoggle.
24 posted on 05/22/2003 4:05:36 PM PDT by Thud
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To: netmilsmom
Way to go!
25 posted on 05/22/2003 4:10:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: Tancredo Fan
Ping!
26 posted on 05/22/2003 4:18:35 PM PDT by TruthNtegrity (God bless America, God bless President George W. Bush and God bless our Military!)
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To: IronKros
I still don't understand the importance of this. Now we can watch the illegals come over on video tape? Big deal! How are we going to stop them without the manpower there? This looks to me like a feel good policy that won't do much.
27 posted on 05/22/2003 4:20:39 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: Big Steve; deport; blackie; nickcarraway; Salvation; Maeve; Siobhan
ping
28 posted on 05/22/2003 4:21:58 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld,Rice 2004)
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To: IronKros
How much you wanna bet the US drones cost a whole lot more than Glenn Spencer's?

This is good news, but what is the INS going to do when they spot the illegals? Currently the INS catches & releases illegals, and local law enforcement agencies let known illegals go free, or refuse to question the status of suspected illegals.
29 posted on 05/22/2003 4:25:09 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Mears
And local/state governments keep paying for more - health care, schools, welfare, etc. Didn't CA just pass a bill to give them all free health care?
30 posted on 05/22/2003 4:28:01 PM PDT by mathluv
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To: IronKros
I'll bet Tommy's really upset 'cause these guyz beat him to it.

Drones:


31 posted on 05/22/2003 4:29:33 PM PDT by upchuck (Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
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To: vpintheak
Well, I would say videotaped footage of the corrupt mexican army firing on our INS border patrol would be entertaining.
33 posted on 05/22/2003 4:36:33 PM PDT by IronKros (wake the mokey and show him a dollar)
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To: IronKros
Unmanned aerial drones similar to ones used in the war on Iraq could be patrolling the U.S. border by the end of the year

Now if we could just get rid of some the human drones that work for the Feds....

34 posted on 05/22/2003 4:42:07 PM PDT by putupon (nothing more to read here, move along)
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To: IronKros
Yep. Can sse it right now. Unmanned drone spots aliens sneaking across the border. Two men watching the monitors:

#1: hey, it looks like we've got 50 illegals crossing the border. Take a look.
#2: yep, those look like illegals all right.
#1: Shouldn't we call out the mobile units to pick them up?
#2: nah. We'd get too much bad press about the mean old border patrol arresting the poor 'undocumented immigrants'. Besides, the governor use back channels to get us fired. C'mon, time to play some cards.

35 posted on 05/22/2003 4:47:46 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: IronKros
Unmanned aerial drones similar to ones used in the war on Iraq could be patrolling the U.S. border by the end of the year...

By the end of the year!!??

Why does it take seven months to start up a program? We have equipment and the military people to run it sitting around practically twidling their thumbs in places like Ft. Huachuca and a dozen other military bases. It's not like we need permission from the UN or lack airfields and OKs from the States! Nor is like we need Posse Committatis to be approved. After all, the Executive Branch is already charged by the Constitution with protecting our borders!

By January, we'll have another 3 million illegals who have swarmed across the border.

36 posted on 05/22/2003 4:48:24 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Tench_Coxe
yeah, your right. The current method is better.</sarcasm>
37 posted on 05/22/2003 4:50:32 PM PDT by IronKros (wake the mokey and show him a dollar)
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To: demkicker
ANd when the lefty libs, commie churchs, Hollyweird types, the ACLU, the (gasp) media, La Raza, Mex pres. Fox, and the lefty pols get wind, that is all it will ever be, is taked about, nada, forgedabodit.
38 posted on 05/22/2003 5:08:22 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: IronKros
The real question is whether this is because of American Patrol's efforts or if the Border Patrol really was experimenting with this sort of thing before.
39 posted on 05/22/2003 5:09:12 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: IronKros
To do what? Clue illegals in as to how close they are to the border?
40 posted on 05/22/2003 5:09:30 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: IronKros
END OF YEAR...BS! Appeaser.....Do it now...
41 posted on 05/22/2003 5:14:49 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker (same old problems, different day...)
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To: IronKros
I would like to see the UAVs backed up with helicopters loaded with some Infantry / Marines to handle any "incidents"
42 posted on 05/22/2003 5:19:56 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: MissAmericanPie
que?
43 posted on 05/22/2003 5:20:22 PM PDT by IronKros (wake the mokey and show him a dollar)
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To: Major_Risktaker
END OF YEAR...BS! Appeaser.....Do it now...

They ought to. You can expect hundreds of thousands more to make it in by then.

44 posted on 05/22/2003 5:23:52 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: gubamyster
"...but what is the INS going to do when they spot the illegals?"

Nothing, it's no longer their job. Border Patrol works directly for Homeland Security Department now. They are two separate entitites with different functions - this is a good thing.

45 posted on 05/22/2003 5:32:57 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: IronKros; amom; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Alamo-Girl; southerngrit; Kathy in Alaska; ...
Stem the tide of illegal aliens BUMP!!!
46 posted on 05/22/2003 5:33:03 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: So Cal Rocket
"Second step is to arm the UAVs."

So right - as soon as I saw the headline, I thought "...and?"
47 posted on 05/22/2003 5:33:37 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: IronKros
You add Drones with Metalstorm technology + area denial capability From flash bangs to more lethal weapons.... and you have a effective border patrol. Check out Metalstorm.com and their videos.
48 posted on 05/22/2003 5:34:36 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (C)
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To: IronKros
OK...maybe we are making progress.
49 posted on 05/22/2003 6:30:43 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: IronKros
What is this fascination that headline writers have for the redundancy, "unmanned drones"?

Incidentally, a drone is, to be absolutely technically correct, an unpiloted aircraft, the flight path of which is preset on the ground, in advance. I'm being a little fussy here, but the new generation of UAVs can be redirected in flight to examine targets of opportunity. Some are "flown" from a virtual pilot station on the ground.

In the case of Predators, the pilots who fly the mission profiles can be on a US airbase while the Preds prowl the Mideast skies. The pilots who take off and land the machine do need to be at the launch and recovery site, though. (Disclaimer: nothing here that hasn't been in a press release, OK?)

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

50 posted on 05/22/2003 7:09:51 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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