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CAIR: "Cal Thomas Echoes Nazi Propaganda" (instructs followers to disseminate reply to column)
CAIR Email (Islam-Infonet List) ^ | 22 May 03 | CAIR

Posted on 05/23/2003 11:07:21 PM PDT by Stultis

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To: Stultis
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
51 posted on 05/24/2003 5:30:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (Mohammed Atta was a "Moderate Muslim" right up until September 10th.)
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To: Stultis
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
54 posted on 05/24/2003 6:27:07 PM PDT by pttttt
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To: Stultis
Ibrahim Hooper

This is the fellow who gave radio-show host Michael Medved a stumbling,
hmmm-'n-hawing answer to a simple question:

"Do you want to institute Shari'a Law in the United States."

The sooner we face the fact that there is a Muslim invasion going on...
with the cover of "Moderate" Muslims and they intend to dimply become a substantial
part of our country's population before they start throwing their weight around...

...the less likely we'll end up being FRANCE.
55 posted on 05/24/2003 6:35:06 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Stultis
Perhaps Mr. Hooper can explain to me "why is it that the number one selling book" in the "Arab Muslim" world is Mien Kemp? He really should be careful of whom "he" condemns as a Nazi. I think Mr. Hooper "wears" his swastika under under his "sheet"!!
57 posted on 05/24/2003 6:37:05 PM PDT by Madcelt
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To: ReligionofMassDestruction
Thank you for the info. I guess I'll rejoin 99% of our population and bury my head back in the sand. NOT!!

I honestly cannot understand the apathetic response from our government to these obvious attempts to "take over" the US.

58 posted on 05/24/2003 7:10:44 PM PDT by zip
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To: happygrl
Saudi Info Ping.
59 posted on 05/24/2003 7:16:21 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...
Ping.
60 posted on 05/24/2003 7:19:27 PM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: Stultis
Boy, the enemy hates it when someone on our side tells the truth and shines the light on the nest of cockroaches, don't they?

If Islam obtains political power in the United States, our Democracy is done for. It is over. If they ever obtain control of our government or our military, there will be no way to resist - and they know it.

They are flooding into our country and we are doing nothing to stem the tide. This is all part of a very well organized long term plan by the Islamofascists to see Islam take over this nation.

Wait and see.

61 posted on 05/24/2003 7:21:40 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: Stultis
Having just read Cal's article, I agree with him 100%. If this group has their way, we will cease to be a sovereign nation, and will become an Islamic "holy" land. We won't allow that to happen.
62 posted on 05/24/2003 7:24:53 PM PDT by ladyinred (Freedom isn't free, remember our fallen heroes)
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To: ReligionofMassDestruction
The review itself is suspenseful. Here is some info on it from Amazon.com.

BTW, apparently to avoid Islamic attacks, the publisher has authorized the distribution of this book only to customers within the United States.

63 posted on 05/24/2003 7:32:11 PM PDT by CedarDave (The number of Saddam (non)sightings is rapidly approaching those of Elvis!)
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To: SJackson; Alouette; American in Israel
Great links on this thread.
64 posted on 05/24/2003 8:21:40 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas!)
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
"They are flooding into our country and we are doing nothing to stem the tide. This is all part of a very well organized long term plan by the Islamofascists to see Islam take over this nation."

Aided and abetted by almost every politician from D.C. to the State Houses.

65 posted on 05/24/2003 8:28:14 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Stultis
The Arabs did fight against the Ottoman Turks in WWI. They were fighting for freedom from the Ottomans. Compared to the Bedu tribesmen, of course, the Ottomans were civilised.

The guy who wrote this letter, Ib Hooper of CAIR, has blood on his own hands. After 9/11 the organisation, which has always supported and defended suicide terrorists, put a link on their website which invited people to contribute to 9/11 victims. However... the money actually went to the Holy Land Foundation, a Hamas front, and was used to finance terrorist attacks in Israel.

CAIR itself is a terrorist front, pure and simple. I am assuming that the only reason it hasn't been shuttered (as Holy Land was) and its officers made to answer charges, is that the responsible authorities have it wired like a pinball machine and are using it to roll up Hooper's friends in Al-Qaeda.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
66 posted on 05/24/2003 9:10:52 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: AmericanVictory
All of their name-calling, in which you now join,

Whoa! I'm just trying to keeps freepers up on the Wahhabi Lobby's campaign against Cal.

67 posted on 05/24/2003 10:42:39 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: ReligionofMassDestruction
This writer was on 60 Minutes, I believe, within the last month. She seemed credible and knowledgeable. Thanks for reminding me; I will obtain her book and read it.
69 posted on 05/25/2003 3:22:50 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: swarthyguy
Thanks for the ping. As usual, rather than responding to the points Mr. Thomas makes, Hooper responds with rabble-rousing. An ideologist of a totalitarian movement funded with foreign money.
70 posted on 05/25/2003 3:31:34 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: ganeshpuri89
Your points are well taken. As it happens, we were in the middle of extensive background research into the history of the actual funding and formation of these organizations. Your suggestions are timely indeed because a next step will be a review of the punditry as it relates to the actual history.

The amount of money that has been funnelled into these organizations such as CAIR to divert attention from the attack on our basic legal foundations by accusations of discrimination against Muslims is extremely large. And it is all enabled by our government and our oil companies refusing to tackle the truth of the matter.

In particular, for example, many old hands in the oil business still insist that Wahhabi style Islamic hate theology is the equivalent of U.S. Evangelicalism. The most startling part is that when the members of the Wahhabi lobby appear on cable they are not challenged on their lack of belief in the disestablishment principle and their desire to impose Shar'ia law on the U.S.

Thank you for your post. We have not engaged in punditry on these points pending the completion of these researches.

71 posted on 05/25/2003 5:41:44 AM PDT by AmericanVictory
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To: Stultis
In the media, much is made of the "fact" that Arab-Americans voted predominately Republican in the last election. Whether this is true or just eyewash, I don't know.

Be that as it may, you can bet the nation-wide Muslim community will not be voting Republican next time around.

Now, CAIR is organizing cadres to insure more Muslims get elected to public office, local, state and federal.

Witness Paris, where the Muslims were just allowed to have their own "advisory council" which in effect governs the areas in Paris where no outsiders dare enter, not even the police.

I would really love to say that Muslims in this country want to assimilate into the melting pot. However, this is not reality, as most of them remain insular, totally ethnic and prefer religious law over civil law. If Muslim piece-by-piece domination can happen in gay Paree and elsewhere, it can happen in Dearborn or Chicago, you can bet on it.

Leni

72 posted on 05/25/2003 11:15:30 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Last call for fabulous "FReeps Ahoy" cruise. Signing up now means never having to say you're sorry!)
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To: MarkL
In WWI, they backed the wrong side.

That's dead wrong. The Arabs were pro-British. The Saudis would not be where they are today if they did not support the British against the Ottomans.

73 posted on 05/25/2003 12:51:44 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: ladyinred
Unless we get The President to name who the enemy is we will never win this war.
74 posted on 05/25/2003 12:53:57 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: PhilipFreneau
The article states in part: "Thomas, echoing 1930s Nazi propaganda against the Jewish community in Germany, warned of the "dangers" posed by increased Muslim political participation "

I can guarantee that the Jews never published anything saying that they had to ensure the end of the German people in favor of Judaism, nor did they successfully attempt to kill thousands of German non-military citizens. The Jews did not pepetrate attack after attack after attack on German women and children.

The use of the "Nazi" label for anyone who tells the truth diminshes the true evil of that regime. On the other hand, Evil now wears a new name and that name is Islam.
75 posted on 05/25/2003 12:57:40 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: happygrl
Some will dismiss as paranoid her claim that there is a Saudi-funded movement to gain "Muslim world domination," yet readers will follow along in fearful fascination as she slowly assembles the puzzle pieces of a complex, interlocking group of organizations and traces their links to terrorist groups and, ultimately, to a "Saudi connection."

From #56. Looks like a worthwhile read.

77 posted on 05/26/2003 12:04:14 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Stultis
Give 'em hell, Cal!
78 posted on 05/26/2003 3:41:25 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!!)
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To: Stultis
bump
79 posted on 05/26/2003 3:45:53 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Stultis
funny thing is it is'nt the Christian faith that builds mosques on the site of other religions' places of worship and holy places.
80 posted on 05/26/2003 6:56:27 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: Stultis
"Muslims are not our enemies. Terrorist groups that promote violence and hatred, some of which claim to operate under the banner of Islam, are our enemies. But they comprise a tiny percentage of Muslims worldwide."

Tiny percentage? Gosh! That makes me feel so much better now that I know that the 19 moslems that caused the 9/11 mayhem were only a "tiny percentage of Muslims." (/sarc.)

81 posted on 05/26/2003 7:37:32 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Thanks, Trailerpark, I was going to mention that photo and try to describe it, and there it is.

Funny how the allies of those who want to "drive the Jews into the sea" think they get to complain about "Nazi propaganda." Especially when it's not "propaganda" but truth, carefully sourced and well-presented.

82 posted on 05/26/2003 9:28:44 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's a tagline. Move on.)
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To: Stultis
Have you forgotten that this is a Free Republic and Cal Thomas is allowed to voice his opinion just at you are permitted to voice yours. That being said I would trust Cal Thomas with my first born. AND Cal Thomas is in no way a bigot!
83 posted on 05/26/2003 9:38:10 PM PDT by blackbart1
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To: Stultis
Have you forgotten that this is a Free Republic and Cal Thomas is allowed to voice his opinion just at you are permitted to voice yours. That being said I would trust Cal Thomas with my first born. AND Cal Thomas is in no way a bigot!
84 posted on 05/26/2003 9:38:47 PM PDT by blackbart1
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To: nightdriver
Tiny percentage? Gosh! That makes me feel so much better now that I know that the 19 moslems that caused the 9/11 mayhem were only a "tiny percentage of Muslims." (/sarc.)

Yeah, and I just thought of this: You want to talk about hate propaganda? Compare these cases:

Case A: Two or more Americans conspire to blow up the Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 195. The President blames it on talk radio, and the press takes up the call, portraying the militia movement and other 2nd Amendment supporters as a source of home-grown terrorists.

Case B: Two men who were not members of any church beat a young gay man to death. The media immediately blames Christian organizations who have spent decades preaching that homosexuals deserve to be loved and prayed for.

Case C: Nineteen Muslims hijack four airliners. The resulting mayhem claims 3,000 American lives. The media and the President rush to tell us that the "religion of peace" is not the problem here.

Now, McVeigh wasn't a militia guy or a subscriber to the Limbaugh Letter. The guys who beat Matthew Sheppard to death weren't Christians. But for the sake of argument, let's say they were. If millions of Americans involved in Talk Radio, Militias and Christianity were painted with the black brush because of the actions of four men, shouldn't Islam get "credit" for the millions of Muslims who call for American and Jewish extinction?

Islam is a religion that you can practice peacefully, but it is not a religion of peace, and "moderate" Muslim leadership has been anything but moderate. Too bad CAIR will never own up to that.

85 posted on 05/26/2003 9:43:47 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's a tagline. Move on.)
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To: blackbart1
Have you forgotten that this is a Free Republic and Cal Thomas is allowed to voice his opinion just at you are permitted to voice yours.

So, what? You don't want the behind the scenes machinations of CAIR and the Wahhabi Lobby exposed to FReepers? Here's a clue: My opinions are to be found in the messages that I write, not (necessarily) in the artices that I post.

86 posted on 05/27/2003 3:03:32 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: AnnaZ
Great links on this thread...
87 posted on 05/27/2003 12:48:58 PM PDT by Feiny (I Triple Guarantee You There Are No Americans In Baghdad!)
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To: Stultis
Anyone who subscribes to a newspaper that syndicates Cal's column. Send a thank you note to the paper for carrying it.
We cannot allow CAIR to intimidate the papers!

Defend Western Civilization!
Tancredo for President!
88 posted on 05/28/2003 3:15:49 AM PDT by jehosophat
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