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New York Turns Out In Style As Giuliani Marries For Third Time
Independent (UK) ^ | 5-25-2003 | David Usborne

Posted on 05/24/2003 4:04:32 PM PDT by blam

New York turns out in style as Giuliani marries for third time

By David Usborne in New York
25 May 2003

The Rudy Giuliani story has been one of the best soap operas in town since his bitter bust-up with his former wife two years ago, his run-in with prostate cancer the year before and, of course, his political heroics as New York's Mayor after the 11 September attacks. Roll credits this weekend for the happy ending.

Yesterday was wedding day for Mr Giuliani, 58, holder of an honorary knighthood from the Queen. In fact, there were no TV cameras for the strictly private ceremony - which is a pity, since the setting was gorgeous: Gracie Mansion, the newly refurbished mayoral residence on the East River.

"Hizzonner the Mayor", who was marrying his girlfriend of three years, Judith Nathan, had his pick of fancy hotels and other venues in the city for his nuptials, to be officiated by his successor, Michael Bloomberg. But the mansion was perfect. Or it was entirely inappropriate, depending on how you look at it.

Maybe he chose it to remind New Yorkers that his political ambitions were still burning. Governor or even President Giuliani are titles that come to mind. Or because it is much easier for security to protect than a hotel, what with reporters and al-Qa'ida terrorists to worry about.

Yet, this was also the home where his 18-year marriage to the TV personality Donna Hanover so publicly spun apart in the months before his time as Mayor ended. In the summer of 2001, he was evicted from the mayoral mansion by a livid Ms Hanover, who had got wind of the affair with Ms Nathan. The wronged wife was thereafter dubbed "Cruella" by the Mayor's sharp-tongued divorce lawyer.

Ms Hanover, who presents a cable show about celebrity homes, was not expected at Gracie Mansion last night. But then the list of 300 invited to attend was a closely held secret. We did know who was not invited, however: they included another ex-mayor and long-time political thorn in Mr Giuliani's side, Ed Koch. Mr Koch tried not to sound bitter: "I'm not a close friend, but I wish him well," he said. "But if he runs for Mayor again, I won't vote for him."

Mr Giuliani, who runs a political and security consulting partnership, was spotted all about town last week, grinning madly. On Monday, he and his fiancée collected the marriage licence from City Hall. "I'm very, very happy," he informed the attendant reporters. "I'm looking forward to spending the rest of our lives together." Thursday saw a stag party at Yankee Stadium, given by the groom's 17-year-old son, Andrew, also the best man.

The other star of the show, though, was Mr Bloomberg. Usually he prefers to avoid any official activities on a Saturday, when he can be found on the golf course or inspecting his various homes worldwide. Mr Bloomberg also made it clear when he took office last year that he had no intention of using his mayoral powers to marry people.

But for Mr Giuliani, he made an exception. Indeed, he wrote a whole new policy on the matter. He will be available in future to officiate at weddings of former New York mayors only, and for no one else. Which means he'll surely never have to do it again - Mr Koch has never married, and shows no intention of doing so - though this assumes the Nathan-Giuliani pact holds good.

This is, after all, Mr Giuliani's third stab at marriage. When he won Ms Hanover, he first had to break away from his first wife of 14 years, Regina Peruggi. He managed by persuading the Catholic church to annul the union. Which wasn't so hard, since he and Ms Peruggi are second cousins.


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1 posted on 05/24/2003 4:04:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I hope it works for him this time. Everyone needs some peace and quiet in their life as they slide towards the end of it.
2 posted on 05/24/2003 4:35:31 PM PDT by damper99
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To: blam
Congradulations Rudy !
3 posted on 05/24/2003 4:52:27 PM PDT by ChadGore (Frustrate one liberal a day, that's all we ask.)
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To: blam
New York Turns Out In Style As Giuliani Marries For Third Time

Double adulterer and fornicator.

It seems that the only way anybody could live with that knowledge about himself would have to have a conscience that has been seared as with a hot iron!

Very much in line with the consciences of the Abortionists(baby murderers)!

Flame away, I am just one small voice in this "wilderness of immorality"!

4 posted on 05/24/2003 5:31:19 PM PDT by VOYAGER
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To: blam
As a born and raised New Yorker - I say good luck Rudy.

As a no-longer resident - I say who cares?
5 posted on 05/24/2003 5:40:56 PM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: VOYAGER
Somebody needs to say it. And having his 17-year-old son give him a "stag party" is just sick.
6 posted on 05/24/2003 5:49:56 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98
"Stag party"?! They went to a baseball game.

He deserves some happiness after having dealt with the Hag from Hell for all those years.

Shortly after he was first elected, she tried to demand a "Hillary-like role" in City Hall, but when turned down, she dropped her married name (for that of her previous husband) and tried desperately to develop a Hollyweird career while very publicly leading a separate life.

When he was running against Hillary, the doting wife decided to appear in that Vagina Monologues crap, just to embarrass him. Oh, and that wasn't the first time she tried to do that to him.

When he was re-elected in 1997, she purposely avoided all campaign events and made a point of refusing to say if she was going to vote for him -- but she still loved living the life of the Mayor's Wife, with all the maids, personal assistants, social secretaries, cooks, Gracie Mansion, and so on.

For years, all of us here in NYC knew that they were, for all intents and purposes, separated and living very separate lives. But please don't let a good man finding some happiness get in the way of all that "tsk, tsking" and clucking of tongues. How *dare* his kid arrange an outing to a baseball game!

7 posted on 05/24/2003 6:38:11 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Thursday saw a stag party at Yankee Stadium, given by the groom's 17-year-old son, Andrew, also the best man.

The article said "stag party," and having the 17-year-old son as best man was in and of itself sick. However, it's apparently the kind of illness which doesn't raise eyebrows in NYC. Exactly what one might expect from a place which elects people like Chuckie and Hillary . . . and "Republican" mayor Bloomberg. Enjoy it there.

8 posted on 05/24/2003 6:48:16 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98
The phrase "stag party" was used by a disreputable British tabloid, but anyone with a lick of common sense would be able to figure out that "17-year-old son" and "baseball game" do not equal a real stag party.

But what on earth is wrong with having his son stand up for him?!

Oh, and yes, I *do* enjoy not having to deal with humorless, sanctimonious old ladies. :)

9 posted on 05/24/2003 6:54:27 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: blam

Congratulations!

10 posted on 05/24/2003 7:01:54 PM PDT by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: VOYAGER
I agree.
11 posted on 05/24/2003 7:02:15 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: NYC GOP Chick
You're right, I also wish this good man much happiness.

The phrase "stag party" was used by a disreputable British tabloid, but anyone with a lick of common sense would be able to figure out that "17-year-old son" and "baseball game" do not equal a real stag party. But what on earth is wrong with having his son stand up for him?!

12 posted on 05/24/2003 7:03:46 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: blam
Best wishes to Rudy! I will never forget his leadership after 911. He was magnificent. Hope he is happy for the rest of his life, it will be well deserved.
13 posted on 05/24/2003 7:07:06 PM PDT by ladyinred (Freedom isn't free, remember our fallen heroes)
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To: blam; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
The very model of the modern Catholic couple. Ugh.
14 posted on 05/24/2003 7:07:20 PM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: GOPJ
He's not perfect, just a good man who did a great deal of good for this city -- much of it well before 9/11/01. I'll never forget him having arafart publicly tossed out of Lincoln Center one night in 1995. :)
15 posted on 05/24/2003 7:09:14 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: blam
Divorce has become as American as apple pie.

I presume Giuliani is Catholic, at least nominally, but his stance on abortion and his attitude to the sanctity of marriage make him a fiscally conservative Teddy Kennedy in my opinion.

16 posted on 05/24/2003 7:10:21 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: blam
if he'd kept his zipper up, and honored his previous marriage, now he'd be the u.s. senator from n.y. state and we wouldn't have the bitch to deal with as president in 2008.
17 posted on 05/24/2003 7:12:04 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: deadhead
Thanks for the pic. I'm surprised they went for the virginal white gown. For people who consider themselves savvy New Yorkers, you'd've thought there'd have been a bit more sophistication and class there. {meow}
18 posted on 05/24/2003 7:13:56 PM PDT by gumbo
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To: liberalnot
Sorry, but it was his cancer that knocked him out of the race.
19 posted on 05/24/2003 7:15:38 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: gumbo
Actually, the wire stories say that the color is "oyster," not white. :)

The bride wore a Vera Wang oyster-colored silk gown with a halter neck and a foot-long train, with a 19th-century diamond-and-pearl tiara on her head

20 posted on 05/24/2003 7:19:03 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
yeah, right!

do you know how many men i've known that have worked during prostrate cancer?

or, women that i've known that worked during breast cancer?
a professional friend of mine had both breasts removed one day mid-week and was seeing clients the next monday.
21 posted on 05/24/2003 7:20:12 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
"He's not perfect, just a good man who did a great deal of good for this city"

I agree NYC GOP Chick.

I hope they have many happy years together. Having his son Andrew as his best man was a loving gesture. The bachelor party at Yankee Stadium, perfect. Rudy loves the Yankees.

22 posted on 05/24/2003 7:26:07 PM PDT by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: liberalnot
Are you his doctor? Do you know how severe his cancer was or how debilitating his treatment was?

Do you even realize that he was already working superhuman hours as Mayor of New York City and that traveling around the state in addition to all that could have been too much of a hardship for him?

23 posted on 05/24/2003 7:30:50 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: deadhead
I just don't understand the hostility over him having his son as best man. I get how some people can be put off by his multiple marriages and how they seem to overlap a bit {g}, but NYers who know and have watched their marriage disintegrate aren't surprised that he finally found someone who loves him and makes him happy -- without demanding power and perks in return.
24 posted on 05/24/2003 7:32:50 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: deadhead
and the Sawwwwwwxxxx are up by a game and a half,, booo haaaaa haaa haa,,
25 posted on 05/24/2003 7:35:22 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2 (God Bless Our Military)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Actually, the wire stories say that the color is "oyster," not white. :)

Heh. Same difference, as they say in New York.

26 posted on 05/24/2003 7:41:18 PM PDT by gumbo
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Another sanctimonius Saturday night thread, wouldn't you say? I'm willing to cut Rudy some slack, and I hope he stays happily married.

Good darn thing I'm just a private citizen. I shudder at the thought of a few of my past mistakes being broadcast nationwide.

We all know he's not as conservative as we'd like him to be. However, I much prefer the thought of him being a NY Senator vs. those currently in office.

A stag party at Yankee Stadium? Think about it...I would say the writer embellished the goings on, don't you?

27 posted on 05/24/2003 7:43:32 PM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: NYC GOP Chick
i think he's a dud!
28 posted on 05/24/2003 7:44:20 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: blam
I don't particuarly care for Giuliani, I give the Devil his due on 9-11, but even all that I find overhyped.
Why in the Hell Giuliani & his latest wife felt the need to have a vast overblown tactless & classless wedding is beyond me. At this point in their lives I think less is better and a small intimate ceremony with family and a few friends would have been much better.
All the celebrity status has gone to Giuliani's head, and I don't mean the one he thinks with.
Well we'll see how long this marriage will last, only until something new & better comes along.
I wonder if he has a portable can of compressed air, he'll need it to get his pump up and working.
29 posted on 05/24/2003 7:45:47 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I am happy he married Judith, I see nothing wrong with his son standing up with him, and I wish them both years of happiness.

What accounts for the Saturday night vitriol? I don't happen to agree with Guiliani on abortion, but he was an excellent mayor, a good campaigner for Republicans last year, and is a staunch supporter of the president.

Oh, maybe that's it. Why look at someone's good qualities, when we can dwell on personal failings and get everyone to arguing. Maybe we can even cause a division in the party!

I sometimes wonder about some of the posters here....

30 posted on 05/24/2003 7:57:48 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: gumbo
No, not really the same at all.
31 posted on 05/25/2003 4:50:28 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: Night Hides Not
Hey, it was one of the British tabloids. If they make up some salacious-sounding detail, it just wouldn't be the same. ;)
32 posted on 05/25/2003 4:51:30 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: liberalnot
So, don't vote for him if he ever runs for office again. And please make sure to trash him if he runs against Hillary in '06 -- God forbid we ever try to get her out of office...
33 posted on 05/25/2003 4:52:30 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: Miss Marple
I wonder too -- especially about some of the newer people here... There were times that Rudy angered me, but he did so much good here and he is a good man.
34 posted on 05/25/2003 4:53:56 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: VOYAGER
Double adulterer and fornicator

I am happy for you that you have been so fortunate in life.

35 posted on 05/25/2003 4:58:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
I am happy for you that you have been so fortunate in life.

Avoiding adultery and fornication are not matters of luck. They are matters of choice and responsibility.

36 posted on 05/25/2003 5:05:29 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: liberalnot
Frankly it is my opinion that he is not the Senator of NY due to his cancer. Had it not been for the cancer he would have stayed in the race and destroyed the shrew in debate if she even agreed to debate. He dropped out of the race before we knew any details of Judith. We all knew him and Donna were living seperate lives for years and her record.
37 posted on 05/25/2003 7:33:06 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I wish Rudy the best however am troubled that he is still very good friends with former Monsignor Placa. I had heard nothing about them since Placa was removed from the Catholic Church yet he was a guest last night. I understand hate the sin love the sinner but Placa truly sickens me at this point. He was one of the major people in the Church involved in the coverup of abuse.

I just dont understand how one can support a known abuser no matter how long the friendship was. Place has been dishonest to Rudy for a long time so I just dont get it.
38 posted on 05/25/2003 7:34:02 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: NYC GOP Chick
re. post 34

Rudy angered everyone at some point...part of LEADERSHIP : ))

As we watch NYC return to Gotham only a New Yorker can truly appreciate how great he indeed was as Mayor.

39 posted on 05/25/2003 7:36:52 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: Jim Noble
I am happy for you that you have been so fortunate in life.

Now I do have some difficulty believing you are all that thrilled!

40 posted on 05/25/2003 9:49:15 AM PDT by VOYAGER
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To: VOYAGER
To be fortunate in your marriage is an extraordinary blessing, and if you are, yes, I am happy for you.
41 posted on 05/25/2003 10:54:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: alisasny
you certainly have a valid argument, i'll admit.

but i differ:

1. the tabloids and newspapers had carried on for years concerning his social life and his wife had tossed him out on the street.

2. i remember him speaking and stating he was dropping out due to cancer.

but prostrate cancer isn't that big of a deal in most men. as i said above, some people continue working with cancer. i've known men that have. and, i've known women with breast cancer that have.

most interesting was a woman that i know who had both breasts removed, was taking phone calls in her hospital room, on a wednesday or thursday, and was back seeing clients on monday. you couldn't keep this woman down. my father is a dairy farmer whom i have never seen in bed, except for hospitalization. my mother said that after she met him she saw him plowing with a team of horses--very physical work, while sick with the whooping cough, circa late 1930s. flu?--he always milked cows 2x a day.

my brother is cut of the same genes; he had pneumonia, got up and milked cows 2x a day, and went back to bed in between. obviously not medically approved actions, all of these.

so, it's a matter of perception and difference among people.

3. after rudy left, it would seem to me that the republican party would have devoted pr strategists and monies to help the u.s. congressman that took her on. he obviously failed.

who am i? but a person that dislikes hillary. what qualifications did she have to assume an office among the 100? none, except that she was the wife of a recent president, armed with white house fbi background reports on her enemies. did missus clinton have information on rudy that rudy didn't want made public? i don't know.

in sum, i do not like clintons. i do not want to suffer another 8 years of them in office. and i think rudy did not do a good job. and i think the gop did not do a good job.

and, i don't like rudy.

if you like rudy, fine. you can have him.
42 posted on 05/25/2003 11:12:41 AM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: madprof98
having the 17-year-old son as best man was in and of itself sick.

Why?

43 posted on 05/25/2003 11:20:53 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (There's too much blood in my caffeine stream.)
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To: liberalnot
Rudy dropped out of the Senate race. He continued to be the Mayor throughout his treatment which I would believe to be much more stressful than a mere Senate run like the Hillary had with the benefit of that being the only thing she had to do the entire year.

In addition had Rudy won that election, Mark Green would have been Mayor on 911 and I shudder to think about the ramifications of that.

: )

So Rudy didn't miss a beat when he had cancer however unfortunate that he did deem it necessary to drop out of the race.

In addition, as I recall imediataly after his surgury he went right back to work and it seemed quicker than the friends you describe.
44 posted on 05/25/2003 11:29:21 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: blam
"This is, after all, Mr Giuliani's third stab at marriage. When he won Ms Hanover, he first had to break away from his first wife of 14 years, Regina Peruggi. He managed by persuading the Catholic church to annul the union. Which wasn't so hard, since he and Ms Peruggi are second cousins."

Sick! Sick! Sick!

45 posted on 05/25/2003 11:32:31 AM PDT by Fraulein
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To: alisasny
you want it both ways.

gosh, that's so c-o-o-l, ruddy went back to work before my friend who had her breasts removed.

but, this just proves my original point, way back, that rudy could have remained in the u.s. senate race.

so, what did missus clinton have on him?
46 posted on 05/25/2003 11:32:57 AM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Well, I didn't want to get too catty. But if you think "oyster" is significantly different from white, then you must address the full length gown, plus train, and tiara, for Pete's sake. All accoutrements of the young virgin as bride -- which most definitely does not describe Judith Nathan.
47 posted on 05/25/2003 11:38:06 AM PDT by gumbo
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To: gumbo; NYC GOP Chick
All accoutrements of the young virgin as bride -- which most definitely does not describe Judith Nathan.

I guess I just don't see why anyone would or should care what others choose to wear to their own weddings - it just doesn't impact me one way or the other. I have a feeling someone will come along here and enlighten me, though. ; )

(FWIW, I think she looked very nice and probably wanted to look as beautiful as she could for Rudy.)

48 posted on 05/25/2003 12:04:48 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (There's too much blood in my caffeine stream.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
In everyday life, do you ever see middle-aged women dressing like teenagers -- too-tight clothes, too much make up, the latest teen hairstyle etc.?

And does it not look ridiculous?

That's what some of us think when we see a middle aged woman, mother of a teenager, gussied up like a young bride.

My initial comment was that I was surprised that sophisticated New Yorkers, who are parents of nearly grown children, and who have been co-habiting for years, would do this.

No one says they can't do it: But it's still tacky.

49 posted on 05/25/2003 12:30:51 PM PDT by gumbo
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To: VOYAGER
And the bride in full regalia, all dressed in white.
50 posted on 05/25/2003 12:36:45 PM PDT by firebrand
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