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CNN Suffers Post-War Trauma
IMDB.com ^ | 5-26-03

Posted on 05/26/2003 12:22:31 PM PDT by Paul Atreides

Since the end of the Iraq war, CNN has seen a disastrous plunge in its ratings from where they were prior to the war, CNN cofounder Reese Schonfeld observed on his website Friday. Without citing sources, Schonfeld disclosed that from January 1 to February 15, CNN/Headline News combined averaged a 43.5-percent marketshare. Last week, he said, the combined total of the two news channels is 37.3 percent. On the other hand, he noted, Fox News now commands 51 percent of the share points, up 42 percent over its pre-war numbers. "This is a time for ... analysis," Schonfeld declared on his website, . "This is unprecedented and calls for immediate action."


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1 posted on 05/26/2003 12:22:31 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Ohhhh...the poor widdle communist news network just can't understand what's wrong.

Could it be adults don't like being lied to?!
2 posted on 05/26/2003 12:30:45 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Liberal media, liberal teachers, liberal clergy. America, we have a problem!)
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To: Paul Atreides
Last week, he said, the combined total of the two news channels is 37.3 percent. On the other hand, he noted, Fox News now commands 51 percent of the share points, up 42 percent over its pre-war numbers.

And a nation seeks the TRUTH.

Great chuckle material. The ultimate I TOLD YOU SO to the lefties.

3 posted on 05/26/2003 12:31:38 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Daschle is an Aschle)
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To: ValenB4
Do you think it's because of Aaron Brown? ;-)
4 posted on 05/26/2003 12:35:11 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Kill all the lawyers - except for mine.)
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To: Paul Atreides
"This is a time for ... analysis,"

Does he mean introspection or therapy?

5 posted on 05/26/2003 12:35:40 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: DakotaGator
CNN's motto: WE HATE AMERICA, EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR, AND THE IGNORANT MASSES BETWEEN THE TWO COASTS. TUNE IN TO US TO FIND OUT WHAT WE WANT YOU TO THINK.
7 posted on 05/26/2003 12:36:19 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
"This is unprecedented and calls for immediate action."

Perhaps their claim that they aren't an American media outlet had something to do with it.

Or perhaps it was their Baghdad Bureau slanted reports.

Or perhaps they just S*CK, they're unfair and unbalanced.

Perhaps they used to get away with it, before they had competition.

I guess they'll be looking for some conservatives to boost ratings, like pMSNBC has done. LOL LOL LOL!!!!

8 posted on 05/26/2003 12:36:26 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Paul Atreides
"This is a time for ... analysis," Schonfeld declared on his website

Just for discussion let's "analyze" why CNN is crumbling. Here's a few choices to throw out:

1.) People are tired of their liberal slant on everything they say but CNN doesn't realize they are slanting it because they think everybody should think like they do.

2.) They realize that people don't like their liberal slant but they are going to keep doing it even though they are losing audience because it's what they believe in.

3.) Their hosts are BORING (think Aaron Brown) compared to Fox

4.) CNN show formats are poorly designed and hosts are badly matched with the format. Larry King does well in his format even though I think he's like watching paint dry.

Any more ideas/reasons? MSNBC is now putting on some conservative hosts to try to stop the slide. Will CNN do the same?

9 posted on 05/26/2003 12:36:27 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Reagan is King
It is interesting to note that the networks that have hired former Clintonistas, ABC and CNN, are having trouble with the viewership. Hmmmmmm.....
10 posted on 05/26/2003 12:38:36 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Kurdistani
Good for you. Now that your eyes are beginning to open, look around at what the liberals are really supporting. BTW, welcome.
11 posted on 05/26/2003 12:38:46 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Cathryn Crawford
More likely their lack of Lauri Dhue.
12 posted on 05/26/2003 12:40:27 PM PDT by ValenB4 (Absence makes the fond grow harder.)
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To: Reagan is King
Actually, surprisingly enough, considering how Lib we are up here in Canada, CNN is the butt of many jokes and not taken seriously at all. Plain and simple, it's just crap, and it assumes it's audience has the brains of a gnat.
13 posted on 05/26/2003 12:40:47 PM PDT by IvanT
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To: All
Here is his article:

"For the six weeks, from January 1st to February 15th, CNN’s market share averaged 31.5%; Headline News had 12% for a total of 43.5%. This week, post Gulf War II; CNN’s market share is down to 27% with Headline at 10.3% for a combined total of 37.3%. That represents a drop of six share points. On the other hand, FoxNews is up to 51%, nine share points higher than the 42% share it had three months ago.



On April 9th, in the midst of the war, CNN averaged 35.4%. During the war they did better than they are doing post war. Since the end of the war CNN/Headline News have lost about fifteen percent of their audience share. This is unprecedented and calls for immediate action. This is not a time for panic but it is a time for analysis. What is CNN doing wrong? How can it be fixed? Wall Street is unlikely to wait long for answers."
14 posted on 05/26/2003 12:41:20 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel!)
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To: ValenB4
Or David Asman. What happened to "so yesterday"? Now I see the truth.
15 posted on 05/26/2003 12:41:24 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Kill all the lawyers - except for mine.)
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To: IvanT
....which is probably not far off, in reality.....

Please continue.... ;)
16 posted on 05/26/2003 12:41:49 PM PDT by IvanT
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Are these people thick or what?

Gee.....why do people tune us out? Americans are sick of hearing your liberal crap spewed constantly.

Ha Ha.
17 posted on 05/26/2003 12:43:56 PM PDT by Gillmeister
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To: Gillmeister
CNN just cannot understand why people do not hate this country like they do.
18 posted on 05/26/2003 12:44:38 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
CNN's motto: WE HATE AMERICA, EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR, AND THE IGNORANT MASSES BETWEEN THE TWO COASTS. TUNE IN TO US TO FIND OUT WHAT WE WANT YOU TO THINK.

That's strange, last time I checked it was:

"We are a global network and don't owe any allegiance to the United States (unless, of course, we need to hide behind the First Amendment, in which case we are based in the U.S. and under it's laws and protections)."

Maybe the changed it because it wasn't catchy enough. ;-)

19 posted on 05/26/2003 12:45:08 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Gillmeister
They have Aaron Brown. That's bad enough.
20 posted on 05/26/2003 12:46:05 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Kill all the lawyers - except for mine.)
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To: Paul Atreides
CNN cofounder Reese Schonfeld observed on his website Friday.

So where's the link to his website? Sounds like interesting reading.

21 posted on 05/26/2003 12:47:17 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: TomB
CNN: ARE YOU BRUTALLY TORTURING AND MURDERING YOUR POPULACE? NOT TO WORRY! HERE AT CNN, WE'LL WORK OUT A DEAL TO REPORT WHAT GOES ON IN YOUR COUNTRY. EXCEPT FOR THOSE PESKY HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, OF COURSE.
23 posted on 05/26/2003 12:48:29 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: FreedomCalls
I don't know. That was all that was in the article.
24 posted on 05/26/2003 12:49:23 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Do they still that sewer dwelling, lying Clinton weasel on CNN? We know Eason (sp?) lied about all sorts of Iraqi issues. Why should we not assume he is lying about lots of other issues, as well?

They whine about some imaginary non-left wing media. No such thing! We just now after all these years have a free media where they extremist liberal elitists are no long the only ones who access to information distribution. CNN and the really big bucks, celebrity leftists on the old stations, for the first time, have honest competition.

25 posted on 05/26/2003 12:50:04 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: Paul Atreides
www.meandted.com
26 posted on 05/26/2003 12:50:30 PM PDT by Gillmeister
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To: Paul Atreides
HA HA HA, lets keep these liberal idiots on the ropes...



27 posted on 05/26/2003 12:50:46 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (The New York Times-National Enquirer...one and the same)
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To: Gillmeister

http://www.meandted.com
29 posted on 05/26/2003 12:51:29 PM PDT by Gillmeister
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To: Paul Atreides
"Since the end of the Iraq war, CNN has seen a disastrous plunge in its ratings from where they were prior to the war, CNN cofounder Reese Schonfeld observed on his website Friday."

The Revolution Continues...

: D
30 posted on 05/26/2003 12:51:41 PM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Paul Atreides
"This is unprecedented and calls for immediate action."

Hey, I've got a novel idea!

How about reporting the news in an unbiased fashion instead of resembling an ongoing DNC Convention?

31 posted on 05/26/2003 12:53:24 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Re: Fox news up 42 percent over its pre-war numbers.

Looks like they have staying power.

32 posted on 05/26/2003 12:56:15 PM PDT by ChadGore (Frustrate one liberal a day, that's all we ask.)
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To: Paul Atreides; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
What Reese actually wrote:

Friday, May 23rd, 2003

Bad News*

For the six weeks, from January 1st to February 15th, CNN's market share averaged 31.5%; Headline News had 12% for a total of 43.5%. This week, post Gulf War II; CNN's market share is down to 27% with Headline at 10.3% for a combined total of 37.3%.  That represents a drop of six share points. On the other hand, FoxNews is up to 51%, nine share points higher than the 42% share it had three months ago.

On April 9th, in the midst of the war, CNN averaged 35.4%. During the war they did better than they are doing post war. Since the end of the war CNN/Headline News have lost about fifteen percent of their audience share. This is unprecedented and calls for immediate action. This is not a time for panic but it is a time for analysis. What is CNN doing wrong? How can it be fixed? Wall Street is unlikely to wait long for answers.

* Save for late Friday on a holiday weekend. Nobody reads anything then.


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33 posted on 05/26/2003 12:58:13 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Paul Atreides
Why doesn't CNN just hoist a Communist Flag and be done with all the speculation?

This network, and the major broadcast networks, are nothing but shills for neo-socialists.

CNN is blocked on the television sets in this household. It is bad enough having to endure American Idol.
34 posted on 05/26/2003 12:59:13 PM PDT by Duramaximus ( American Born, Gun_Toting , Aerospace Worker Living In A State That Worships Socialism)
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To: Kurdistani
Re:Rather than reporting, they tried like crazy to turn people against the war, and nobody wanted to hear it(including me and my freind).

They were selling appeasement, and the people wern't buying. What's amazing? They still aren't.

35 posted on 05/26/2003 12:59:20 PM PDT by ChadGore (Frustrate one liberal a day, that's all we ask.)
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To: Paul Atreides
"This is unprecedented and calls for immediate action." - you don't think they might resort to maybe telling the ...the...truth?
36 posted on 05/26/2003 1:01:04 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: Paul Atreides
I fear that the "immeadiate action" he is refering to may be seen in efforts of democrat lawmakers to kill Fox News and Clear Channel...there have been rumblings about "too much control of media in too few hands", and these folks are NOT talking about Time-Warner-AOl, CBS, NBC, ABC Viacom.
37 posted on 05/26/2003 1:04:57 PM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Further Reese:

Wednesday, May 21st, 2003

Wednesday with Cynthia, News Depression

Total news viewing is down for the fifth straight week. Just a small dip this time, 5% total day, 3% prime from last week. On the total day average, 1,794,000 Americans were watching the four television cable news networks each quarter-hour. In prime time the networks averaged 2,801,000 total viewers.

At the height of the Iraqi war, the week of March 17th, there were 13,000,000 people watching news in prime time and 8,420,000 in total day. That?s a 78.7% drop in total viewing and in prime time it was down 78.5%. About five times as many Americans watched cable news two months ago as are watching it now and Fox is doing the best job of retaining its war time audience.

Once again FoxNews dominated, finishing seventh in prime time and total day viewing among the basic cable ad supported networks. Once again CNN is no longer in the top ten and MSNBC and Headline News aren?t even close.

Market share breakdown for the week:

Prime Time:


38 posted on 05/26/2003 1:07:03 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Paul Atreides
Just how wrong was the left?

I saved this image from a leftie web site during the first week of the war.

I saved this from a leftie web site during the first week of the war as proof of how wrong they were. And this was the kind of BS that CNN was "ballancing" it's coverage with. Notice how the worst picture they could cme up with was a U.S. soldger PUTTING ON HIS HELMET!

39 posted on 05/26/2003 1:09:16 PM PDT by ChadGore (Frustrate one liberal a day, that's all we ask.)
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To: Paul Atreides
There is nothing wrong with your television set.
Do not attempt to adjust the picture.
We are controlling transmission.
We will control the horizontal.
We will control the vertical.
We can change the focus to a soft blur,
or sharpen it to crystal clarity.
For the next hour sit quietly,
and we will control all that you see and hear.
You are about to participate in a great adventure.
You are about to experience the awe and mystery
that reaches from the inner mind
to the distorted reality of the goofy, liberal social engineers of the mainstream media.
40 posted on 05/26/2003 1:13:34 PM PDT by JoeVortex
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To: IvanT
Actually, surprisingly enough, considering how Lib we are up here in Canada, CNN is the butt of many jokes and not taken seriously at all. Plain and simple, it's just crap, and it assumes it's audience has the brains of a gnat.

That's very scary, considering that the CBC is beyond the shadow of a doubt the most blatantly biased English-speaking news organization i've ever seen. Perhaps the Libs enjoy their news shows preaching America-hate and Bush-hate all day and all night. In such a case, I can see why they'd hate CNN, which at least is capable of mentioning Bush's name without following it with a 12-minute report on "the explosion of homelessness in Bush's America" or somesuch BS.

41 posted on 05/26/2003 1:13:53 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Impeach the Boy
I fear that the "immeadiate action" he is refering to may be seen in efforts of democrat lawmakers to kill Fox News and Clear Channel...there have been rumblings about "too much control of media in too few hands", and these folks are NOT talking about Time-Warner-AOl, CBS, NBC, ABC Viacom.

Doesn't matter. The SCOTUS has made it exceedingly clear that any unnecessary, politically-based interference with media ownership will be thrown out as unconstitutional. If Congress does try to pass something, Bush won't sign it. If they try it the next time a RAT's in office, SCOTUS will kill it.

42 posted on 05/26/2003 1:16:16 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Paul Atreides
CNN's motto: WE HATE AMERICA, EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR, AND THE IGNORANT MASSES BETWEEN THE TWO COASTS. TUNE IN TO US TO FIND OUT WHAT WE WANT YOU TO THINK.

BINGO!

LOL!

43 posted on 05/26/2003 1:17:37 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Liberal media, liberal teachers, liberal clergy. America, we have a problem!)
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To: Paul Atreides
"This is unprecedented and calls for immediate action."

Say buh-bye, Forehead.

44 posted on 05/26/2003 1:18:20 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Paul Atreides
No surprise, The next thing they will have to do is either report the truth or perish. The propaganda became sel gratifying and self evident to the viewers, who turned them off.

Ops4 God BLess America!
45 posted on 05/26/2003 1:20:56 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: Paul Atreides
Watch them become even more left wing, anti gun, anti GW, and anti the good things America represents while becoming more strident and shrieking.

Then, as their market shares continue to drop, they will repeat their losing mantras, templates and strident shrieking.
46 posted on 05/26/2003 1:28:27 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Time to visit this website and join up: http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: Kurdistani
The outrage is that they lied to protect a brutal dictator(much as theyre still doing with castro), not because they wanted access, but because IT FITS THEIR AGENDA!!!

That's right. They were STILL pushing the "Bush is a warmonger" theme AFTER Eason Jordan admitted that CNN lied for Saddam.

47 posted on 05/26/2003 1:35:14 PM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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To: FreedomCalls; Paul Atreides
Here is the URL for the website: www.meandted.com
48 posted on 05/26/2003 1:38:04 PM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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To: alnick
Thanks!
49 posted on 05/26/2003 1:44:55 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Grampa Dave
Does CNN realize that the last time Judy Woodruff smiled was the recent interview with Bill Clinton? Not only has she been in deep mourning for the Clinton years, but she can not mention anything in regards to the Bush Administration without a look of great trepidation.
50 posted on 05/26/2003 1:45:40 PM PDT by Toespi
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