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Sen. Santorum . . .Tells Christendom Grads To Rebel Against Pop Culture
The Wanderer ^ | Issue Date May 29, 2003 | TOM McFADDEN

Posted on 05/27/2003 11:25:49 AM PDT by Remedy

FRONT ROYAL, Va. — "We need to summon the moral strength to create a civilization of peace and justice, and of course, of love," said U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum (R., Pa.) to Christendom College’s graduating class of 2003. "This is where you come in. I believe of all the great gifts God has given to the young, the greatest of these are energy, idealism, and rebelliousness. I want to challenge each and every one of you to be a radical, to be a rebel, to rebel against the popular culture. Your task will not be an easy one. You must overcome the temptation of silence."

On May 17, during the graduation ceremony held in Crusader Gymnasium, Christendom College President Dr. Timothy O’Donnell awarded Sen. Santorum Christendom College’s Pro Deo et Patria Medal for Distinguished Service to God and Country, after which he delivered the commencement address.

Dr. O’Donnell’s introduction of Sen. Santorum was interrupted on three different occasions by animated clapping and standing ovations by the enthusiastic audience.

Sen. Santorum has indeed overcome the temptation of silence in recent weeks. At the beginning of May, Santorum was accused of hate speech and bigotry for his comments he made to a reporter on the Texas law banning sodomy.

"Virtue is a word fraught with controversy today," he said, referring to his interview which was distorted by activists both within and outside the press. "I tried to articulate the nature of marriage, the good of marriage," he said, "but making a defense of marriage is often characterized as hate speech these days."

Santorum told the graduates that when they are rebelling against modern culture, they are not called by God to be necessarily successful, but rather to be faithful. He explained his point by telling a story about how, back in 1998, when former President Bill Clinton had vetoed the partial-birth abortion ban, the Senate voted to overturn Clinton’s veto. He explained that it was not overturned by a margin of two votes. Santorum, though, had spent much of the night before trying to convince his fellow senators, only to realize that he could not change even one vote.

However, a week later, Santorum received an e-mail from a man who said he and his girlfriend had heard Santorum’s speech against partial-birth abortion on television. The girlfriend started crying and said she had scheduled an abortion for the following day. "She did not have the abortion the next day. There is now a little girl who’s four years old, who was adopted by two loving parents," he said. "To this world, I failed. But God was faithful."

Prior to the commencement ceremonies, Avery Cardinal Dulles, S.J., offered the baccalaureate Mass in the Chapel of Christ the King and delivered the homily. Cardinal Dulles chose to speak on a special theme of Christ’s which is very near and dear to Christendom College: The Way, the Truth, and the Life. In fact, these words appear in the college’s logo.

Treasure the fact that you have been given a Catholic education in which the truth of Revelation was not severed from the truth of the human sciences," exhorted Cardinal Dulles. "There are many rivers of truth, but in the end they merge into one undivided stream. When the perennial questions are seriously asked, Christ can be recognized as the encompassing truth. Truth in the end turns out to be a Person, a Person whom we encounter both in the proclamation of the Gospel and in the ministry of the sacraments."

He concluded by saying that "at Christendom College you have . . . learned to love the Eucharist. Take that love with you wherever you go. The more your life is centered on this sacrament of sacraments, the more energized will it be in all its dimensions. Neither death nor life nor anything under Heaven will be able to separate you from Him who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life."

Cardinal Dulles was also awarded an honorary doctorate in humane letters during commencement exercises. Christendom College conferred 73 bachelor of arts and three associate of arts degrees on its graduating class, making the class of 2003 the largest in the college’s 25-year history.


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Santorum told the graduates that when they are rebelling against modern culture, they are not called by God to be necessarily successful, but rather to be faithful.

MURDER : Why Abortion Isn't ImportantDoes that mean I advocate that pro-lifers should stop being obsessed by matters affecting the sanctity of life? Of course not. If we are not obsessed by life and death, we might as well not be obsessed by anything. What I do advocate, however, is that pro-lifers increase their obsession-not just with life matters, but with the whole state of Western society. We need to be obsessed by the state of utter desolation into which Western society is throwing itself. It may well be (as I believe) that what is left of Western civilization is doomed to extinction-but doing and caring nothing about it is just not an option. It is not only on what we achieve (and we may achieve a lot in the short or medium term), but on what we defend that we will be judged.

This is where you come in. I believe of all the great gifts God has given to the young, the greatest of these are energy, idealism, and rebelliousness.

The Restorationist Rebellion Miss Georgia Hamann, age 17, is a student at Pensacola Christian College and a veteran of the Robert Welch University summer camp program.

A counterculture teen may differ from his peers in his tastes, but a restorationist is much more than a person who despises decadent music, piercing, and obscene clothing. Restorationists are primarily defined by an unshakeable passionate resolve. Our values are not mere intellectual ideals. Our resolve consists of an ardent zeal united with a strong character that motivates us to act on our beliefs. Because we believe in God, we are resolved that we will maintain our life of virtue despite the temporary pleasures we may sacrifice. Because we believe in family, we are resolved that we will maintain a single-income, home-educated household despite the resultant economic hardships. Because we believe in our country, we are resolved that we will uphold the Constitution and work to restore it, despite the sacrifice we make in time and effort.

LIFE ISSUES

They're called Generation Y, the Millennials and Echo Boomers. Regardless of what they're called, there are 60 million of them currently between the ages of 8 and 23, compared to the mere 17 million in Generation X before them.

Advertisers caught on very quickly, recognizing the tremendous buying power of this upcoming generation, and adjusted their messages and products accordingly.

Now everything from politicians to church groups are studying, analyzing and trying to influence this upcoming generation of young adults. They all recognize that the sheer numbers provide this generation with the ability to change society and political landscapes of the future.

The good news is, Gen Yers are spiritual, optimistic, ambitious and idealistic. They want the truth and want to do what's right. This generation does not want to be like their parents. They want to be and do better. Since many come from homes of divorce and/or are latchkey kids, they want stable marriages and homes for themselves and their children. Gen Yers are also primarily pro-life on abortion. They believe the unborn child is "pure potential" and could be the very person who finds a cure for cancer or AIDS.

This generation is also highly intelligent, inquisitive and accustomed to getting information with the click of a mouse. They are, in fact, the computer generation.

Do they have insecurities, problems, peer and adult pressures and concerns of all kinds? Of course they do - they're growing adolescents. The real question is: Will they maintain their current positive attitudes and pro-life/pro-family values into adulthood? That all depends upon who reaches their hearts and minds over the next several years.

The Internet is the Gen Y medium of choice, beating out TV, radio and even the telephone. They get all of their information, talk with friends and make decisions "on line." Everything is only a click away. In January 2001, Gen Y ranked second only to the 35-to-49-year-old business users in Internet use per month and will likely exceed them in 2003. Their primary uses of the Internet are to communicate, be entertained and acquire information.

Based upon three years of research and a year's worth of website development, The Caring Foundation is launching a multifaceted website designed specifically for the Gen Yers with a target date of January 20 or soon thereafter. The site's content, design, interactivity, etc., have been evaluated and approved by demographically and ethnically diverse teens from across the country.

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SODOMY : Santorum Crisis Exposes Republican Weakness

1 posted on 05/27/2003 11:25:50 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy; .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; ...
Wanderer bump!
2 posted on 05/27/2003 11:29:37 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Cicero; Coleus; cpforlife.org
ED : Respect Life Curriculum Guidelines
3 posted on 05/27/2003 11:30:49 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
He explained his point by telling a story about how, back in 1998, when former President Bill Clinton had vetoed the partial-birth abortion ban, the Senate voted to overturn Clinton’s veto. He explained that it was not overturned by a margin of two votes. Santorum, though, had spent much of the night before trying to convince his fellow senators, only to realize that he could not change even one vote.

Mr. Santorum talks a great game, but he has to explain to me why a New Jersey resident like me should ever take him seriously again after he came through this state a few years ago campaigning for the most rabidly pro-abortion Republican in the country, Christie Todd Whitman.

I wonder how much time he spent trying to convince her not to veto New Jersey's partial birth abortion ban. /sarcasm off/

4 posted on 05/27/2003 11:32:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Remedy
On May 17, during the graduation ceremony held in Crusader Gymnasium...

Gotta LOVE it!

5 posted on 05/27/2003 11:34:37 AM PDT by MarineDad
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To: Alberta's Child
Might have something to do with politics.
6 posted on 05/27/2003 11:38:25 AM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: Alberta's Child
2001-2002 On the votes that the National Right to Life Committee considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, Senator Santorum voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

1999-2000 On the votes that the National Right to Life Committee considered to be the most important in 1999-2000, Senator Santorum voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

7 posted on 05/27/2003 11:39:49 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
These people are cowards, homosexuality an easy target, but if they had any backbone and/or guts what so ever, they would go after corruption in government instead.
8 posted on 05/27/2003 11:40:15 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Texas Straight Talk: An Interview With Ron Paul - Sierra Times. ...

Q. Sir, on May 6th, on the floor of the house you asked the question: "Are the American people determined they still wish to have a Constitutional Republic." How would you answer that question, Sir?

A. A growing number of Americans want it, but a minority, and that is why we are losing this fight in Washington at the moment. That isn't as discouraging as it sounds, because if you had asked me that in 1976 when I first came to Washington, I would have said there were a lot fewer who wanted it then. We have drifted along and, although we have still enjoyed a lot of prosperity in the last twenty-five years, we have further undermined the principles of the Constitution and private property market economy. Therefore, I think we have to continue to do what we are doing to get a larger number. But if we took a vote in this country and told them what it meant to live in a Constitutional Republic and what it would mean if you had a Congress dedicated to the Constitution they would probably reject it. It reminds me of a statement by Walter Williams when he said that if you had two candidates for office, one running on the programs of Stalin and the other running on the programs of Jefferson the American people would probably vote for the candidate who represented the programs of Stalin. If you didn't put the name on it and just looked at the programs, they would say, Oh yeah, we believe in national health care and we believe in free education for everybody and we believe we should have gun control. Therefore, the majority of the people would probably reject Thomas Jefferson. So that describes the difficulty, but then again, we have to look at some of the positive things which means that we just need more people dedicated to the rule of law. Otherwise, there will be nothing left here within a short time.

Federalist No. 51, by Publius; Federalist No. 51 Page 1

But the great security against a gradual concentration of the several powers in the same department, consists in giving to those who administer each department the necessary constitutional means and personal motives to resist encroachments of the others. The provision for defense must in this, as in all other cases, be made commensurate to the danger of attack. Ambition must be made to counteract ambition. The interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place. It may be a reflection on human nature, that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature?

9 posted on 05/27/2003 11:52:19 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Paul C. Jesup
homosexuality an easy target

Which parallel universe are you rotating in?

10 posted on 05/27/2003 11:52:36 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: JmyBryan
Of course. Every whore has her price, I guess.
11 posted on 05/27/2003 12:02:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Remedy
I understand his reputation. But try to put yourself in the place of a pr-life New Jersey voter who watched this guy come in from across the river and campaign for a pro-abortion politician like Whitman.
12 posted on 05/27/2003 12:04:29 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Remedy
That was not in your first post.
13 posted on 05/27/2003 12:09:56 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Polycarp
Which parallel universe are you rotating in?

(sarcasm) The one where the people think that homosexuality is more dangerious than tyranny of government.

14 posted on 05/27/2003 12:11:34 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Alberta's Child
I understand his reputation. But try to put yourself in the place of a pr-life New Jersey voter who watched this guy come in from across the river and campaign for a pro-abortion politician like Whitman.

Who was Christie Toad's opponent that year? Was it Mayor McCheesey? Whoever her opponent was that year, I don't suppose he was one of the .000002% of pro-life Democrats out there, eh? If not, I don't fault Rick for campaigning for her as any Democrat was likely to be worse. McSleazey has certainly shown himself no friend of pro-lifers.

It is morally acceptable to vote for and support the lesser of two evils if that's all you've got. Honestly, it was our fault as NJ pro-life voters for not making sure it never reached that point. Christie Toad should never have been on any ballot as a Republican. We should have Diane Allen'd her in the very beginning.
15 posted on 05/27/2003 12:17:31 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
These people are cowards, homosexuality an easy target, but if they had any backbone and/or guts what so ever, they would go after corruption in government instead.

What perhaps you don't realize is that homosexuality and corruption in government go hand-in-hand. When you have states and local govenments forcing people to accept the notion that homosexual liaisons are the moral equivalent of marriage, you're looking at highly corrupt governments.

Wake up!
16 posted on 05/27/2003 12:20:24 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus
It is morally acceptable to vote for and support the lesser of two evils if that's all you've got.

You've given me a good rationale for voting for Whitman, but this doesn't mean Santorum has any reason to make an effort to get a fellow Republican elected to a statewide office (in another state!) despite this Republican's pro-abortion credentials.

Another interesting note -- if the New Jersey Republican Party sees no danger in bringing in a staunch pro-lifer like Santorum to campaign for their candidates, then why the hell don't they ever support a pro-life Republican in a statewide election????

17 posted on 05/27/2003 12:21:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Paul C. Jesup
The men I know who were buggered as teenage boys were not molested by gov't agents but by homosexuals.
18 posted on 05/27/2003 12:21:42 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Antoninus
Please note, BTW, that I brought this up in the context of the article at the top of this thread. I'm sure that Political Expediency 101 is not listed on the curriculum at Christendom College.
19 posted on 05/27/2003 12:23:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Your points are legitimate. I too was disappointed in Santorum when he did this. I do not know how he rationalized it then, nor how he would even today.
20 posted on 05/27/2003 12:26:14 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Remedy
(Jeb)Bush/Santorum '08

Or Bush/Keyes

21 posted on 05/27/2003 12:27:12 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Remedy
Bump for later.
22 posted on 05/27/2003 12:30:34 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Polycarp
I do not know how he rationalized it then, nor how he would even today.

If I were a student at Christendom, I would have stood up and asked him.

23 posted on 05/27/2003 12:31:48 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Remedy
The Caring Foundation

This a a great organization!! They have done some fantastic research into the pro-life issue, and have helped mold the pro-life message sent out to women, especially those college-aged, facing unplanned pregnancies.

24 posted on 05/27/2003 12:33:43 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Remedy
Neither death nor life nor anything under Heaven will be able to separate you from Him who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life."

Why aren't there more Jesuits like Cardinal Dulles? I guess he was in formation long before the time of the 'post-modern Jesuits' who ruined at least a generation of novices to the Order with their ambivalence in teaching the Faith! By extension, those novices, later turned priests and teachers garbled the Faith for millions of Catholics who now just don't KNOW what the Church teaches anymore, so they couldn't defend it if they wanted to!

25 posted on 05/27/2003 12:38:04 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Polycarp
There is no one that I know of personally that has been molested, but I do know personally quite a few people who have been unjustly raked over the coals by government.
26 posted on 05/27/2003 12:40:06 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Alberta's Child
But try to put yourself in the place of a pr-life New Jersey voter who watched this guy come in from across the river and campaign for a pro-abortion politician like Whiman.

Who was the Democrat alternative, and would that person have been any better on the life issue?

27 posted on 05/27/2003 12:41:09 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Antoninus
What perhaps you don't realize is that homosexuality and corruption in government go hand-in-hand. When you have states and local govenments forcing people to accept the notion that homosexual liaisons are the moral equivalent of marriage, you're looking at highly corrupt governments.

This where I disagree with you. It is the socialists that have control of the homosexuals, not the other way around.

Attacking homosexuality will not solve any problems. It is socialism that we must attack.

28 posted on 05/27/2003 12:43:26 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: SuziQ
Not only was the Democrat no different on the life issue, but the Democrat was no different on any other issue, too. Look at Christie Whitman's track record as governor of New Jersey, and find one thing about her that can be identified as "Republican" in any sense of the word.

Santorum would have been better off just staying home.

29 posted on 05/27/2003 1:07:26 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Remedy
So Santorum wants to take away the Osbournes now?

now it's personal...

30 posted on 05/27/2003 1:11:06 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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To: Paul C. Jesup
(sarcasm) The one where the people think that homosexuality is more dangerious than tyranny of government

It is, but before you start flaming, consider that we are discussing the abstract behavior known as "homosexuality," not the concrete practice of two queers doing whatever they do in the privacy of their own home.

A society that is oppressed by a tyrannical government at least knows the evil by which it is oppressed. They may be downtrodden, but given the correct spark and circumstances they will rise up and fight against the evil and restore the good.

But the society that stops looking at homosexual behavior as evil has given up all hope. There is no spark that will wake them from the dullness they have imposed upon themselves. If they have decided they like the sleep, you will never wake them.

Shalom.

31 posted on 05/27/2003 1:31:23 PM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Antoninus
"What perhaps you don't realize is that homosexuality and corruption in government go hand-in-hand. When you have states and local govenments forcing people to accept the notion that homosexual liaisons are the moral equivalent of marriage, you're looking at highly corrupt governments."


There are - what - 2 states that allow homo marriages? Yet every state and the Fed. collects income tax...forcefully, if necessary, and the people who enacted these laws initially weren't a bunch of homosexuals.

Scumbag elected officials who pander to whatever PAC fills their pocketbooks are a FAR greater threat to me personally than any flaming homo.
32 posted on 05/27/2003 1:48:56 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: Blzbba

Scumbag elected officials who pander to whatever PAC fills their pocketbooks are a FAR greater threat to me personally than any flaming homo.

Gay Money Comes Out of the Closet : Salt Lake Tribune , August 19, 2000 Author: Ruth Marcus

In all, gays have contributed about $5 million this election to the Democratic National Committee alone -- a total that puts them among the top tier of Democratic givers

For the 2000 race, the DNC set up a new Gay and Lesbian Victory Council for those who gave $10,000 and more. It now has almost 100 donors, and about 13 members of the party's "Jefferson Trust," for $100,000 givers, are openly gay.

Gay And Lesbian Leaders Launch National Grassroots Effort To Help Elect Al Gore President

Nashville - February 29, 2000 - Praising Al Gore's commitment to fighting discrimination and promoting equality for all Americans, lesbian and gay leaders across the country today announced the launch of Gay and Lesbian Americans for Gore. The group will work over the Internet and in local communities to mobilize volunteers and organize support for Gore. Today's announcement came on the heels of an important national endorsement yesterday by the National Stonewall Democratic Federation, which has 47 affiliated clubs and 10,000 members nationwide.

33 posted on 05/27/2003 2:14:06 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
yeah...and what happened to the Dems in the 2000 elections?

Besides, Big Energy, Big Banking, Big Attorneys, Big Tobacco & Big Hollywood are giving away FAR more money than a paltry $5 million that these ass pirates / pillow biters are giving away.
34 posted on 05/27/2003 2:36:01 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: Alberta's Child
Hmmmm I guess her opponent was anti abortion!!!!!!
35 posted on 05/27/2003 2:51:02 PM PDT by cksharks
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
vintage remedy ping.
36 posted on 05/27/2003 4:23:54 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight)
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To: Coleus; Remedy; MHGinTN; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah
Remedy - Santorum - Wanderer BUMP!!!!!
37 posted on 05/27/2003 7:00:50 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (“My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6)
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To: Coleus
Thanks for the heads up!
38 posted on 05/27/2003 7:05:19 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Remedy
thanks for the post - Be Faithful.
39 posted on 05/27/2003 7:25:46 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: Paul C. Jesup
This where I disagree with you. It is the socialists that have control of the homosexuals, not the other way around.

Much like a homosexual liaison, the "union" between the Sodomite and Socialist factions is a sterile, mutual masturbation relationship. They use each other. The socialists use the homos to help break down the traditional family unit and thus weaken the nation. The homos use the socialists to advance their legislative agendas and to remake our Judeo-Christian civilization into a sex-obsessed free-for-all where their particular perversion is exalted and all other perversions are tolerated.

Of course, they share the common goal of being fanatically misanthropic population-control zealots who view human life as a cancer on the planet.

My solution? Oppose both equally. You have a problem with that?
40 posted on 05/27/2003 7:55:54 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Blzbba
There are - what - 2 states that allow homo marriages?

For now. It's coming up in practically every state in the union. Lots of other states and municipalities already allow "same-sex partner benefits." That is, taking your forcefully collected tax money and pouring it down the rat-hole of health benefits for some guy's butt-buddy-of-the-month. And this is just the tip of the iceburg of what's coming.

Yet every state and the Fed. collects income tax...forcefully, if necessary, and the people who enacted these laws initially weren't a bunch of homosexuals.

I agree. But you've got to understand that the homo-promo types who can broach no criticism and who are willing to create laws that will have people arrested for criticizing their "deathstyle" (see Sweden and Canada for starters) are part and parcel of the corrupt government you decry.

Scumbag elected officials who pander to whatever PAC fills their pocketbooks are a FAR greater threat to me personally than any flaming homo.

That's only because you're looking at the surface issue. The homos are attempting to radically change 2000+ years of Judeo-Christian civilization and get us to accept things that were considered anathema a mere 40 years ago. They are not doing it by legislative vote but by judicial fiat for the most part. When the issue is put to a direct vote, even in California, they lose. If you don't see this trend as tyrannical, I can't help you.
41 posted on 05/27/2003 8:06:48 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Alberta's Child
You've given me a good rationale for voting for Whitman, but this doesn't mean Santorum has any reason to make an effort to get a fellow Republican elected to a statewide office (in another state!) despite this Republican's pro-abortion credentials.

You'd have to ask him why he did it. As for me, I trust Rick to make the right decision. He's nothing less than one of the two finest politicians I've had the privilege to hear speak here in the Northeast. The other being Bret Schundler.
42 posted on 05/27/2003 8:13:00 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Coleus
Gosh your right ping.
43 posted on 05/27/2003 8:40:21 PM PDT by fatima (Go Karen,Look at all these's prayers.For all our troops,we love you.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Ping
44 posted on 05/27/2003 9:56:52 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Remedy
Santorum bump!
45 posted on 05/27/2003 10:48:19 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Aquinasfan
Completely Catholic tickets! I wonder how many people realize that?
46 posted on 05/27/2003 10:51:40 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Antoninus
"That is, taking your forcefully collected tax money and pouring it down the rat-hole of health benefits for some guy's butt-buddy-of-the-month. And this is just the tip of the iceburg of what's coming."


Yeah, I agree that "same-sex" benefits are a freakin' PC joke, esp. since homos change partners as much as slutty heteros....yet, the unmarried slutty heteros aren't getting their lifestyle subsidized...



" But you've got to understand that the homo-promo types who can broach no criticism and who are willing to create laws that will have people arrested for criticizing their "deathstyle"

Very true- these folks' skin is paper-thin when it comes to criticism. This tactic is also used in racial discussions, but I'm sure you've noticed that. This "If you disagree with me, you're a homophobe/racist/anti-Semite" crap prevents me from taking any of their sides very seriously. I get the same reaction when I discuss Israel/Palestine with people.



"When the issue is put to a direct vote, even in California, they lose. If you don't see this trend as tyrannical, I can't help you. "

They also had a vote in Colorado a few years back about same-sex issues....something to do with forceful employment or benefits or something...anyways, the measure was shot down and yep- you guessed it - the homos complained. The real problem with all this is that we're letting a minority group act as though it was the majority.


I guess I don't consider it a huge problem (yet) because I see so many other issues of morality and ethics that are directly impacting me. Enron, Global Crossings, and WorldCom's misdealings cost me FAR more money that these assclown buttpirates have. Thanks for the conversation!
47 posted on 05/28/2003 6:26:39 AM PDT by Blzbba
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cost me FAR more money that these assclown buttpirates have.

Citizens Against Government Waste Since the first federal resources were made available to state and local health agencies for AIDS prevention in 1985, federal funding, which now includes money for research, treatment, and housing, has skyrocketed to $13 billion for fiscal 2003. As a result of the work of highly mobilized lobbying forces, more is spent per patient on AIDS than on any other disease, though it does not even currently rank among the top 15 causes of death in the United States. In one year, 1998, heart disease, the nation's leading cause of death, killed 724,859 Americans only 6.8 percent less than the 774,767 who have contracted AIDS in the last 20 years.2 Of those 774,767 total AIDS cases, 462,766 have died. During that same period, 14 million Americans 30 times more have died of heart disease.

48 posted on 05/28/2003 6:37:02 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
See my post http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918417/posts?page=11#11 and a coupla others in that thread..

AIDS research is a waste of money, since this disease could be eradicated in a generation thru simple human altering of risky sex.

Sadly, now lots of hetero women are getting it from crossover pillow biters, who should be strung up. Hell, they'd probably enjoy that, though.

Meanwhile, women continue to get diagnosed with breast cancer that they acquire thru no unhealthy "lifestyle choices" - where's the outrage at this? (not from you - I know you're in agreement! :) )
49 posted on 05/28/2003 7:18:07 AM PDT by Blzbba
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My solution? Oppose both equally. You have a problem with that?

Yes I do, because we are suppose to be opposing the other sides BIAS, not creating more hypocrisy.

50 posted on 05/28/2003 1:20:06 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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