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Smearing Of Joe McCarthy
Media Monitor ^ | May 27, 2003 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 05/27/2003 12:34:23 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The release of 50-year-old hearings conducted by Senator Joe McCarthy gave the media another opportunity to charge that the Wisconsin Senator made reckless charges about communists that destroyed the lives of innocent people. M. Stanton Evans, a scholar on the subject, contacted reporters for Roll Call newspaper, the Washington Post and Reuters in a fruitless attempt to get the name of one innocent victim of McCarthy. They told him to contact Donald Ritchie, the Senate historian who edited the hearings and appeared on several shows to talk about them. Ritchie told Evans to send him a letter.

One of those appearances came on a Fox News show hosted by John Gibson, who said McCarthy was a drunk who "went around the bend" and who had a list of 1000 alleged communists that was "bogus, completely bogus, right?" Ritchie responded that McCarthy did find communists and security risks "from time to time" but no espionage agents or subversion.

McCarthy had actually cited 59 suspected communists in the State Department, and he produced that list, plus 22 others. McCarthy helped uncover a communist spy ring involving foreign service officer John Stewart Service and Phil Jaffe, the editor of a pro-communist magazine. He targeted Owen Lattimore, a key State Department adviser and communist. McCarthy’s charge against Mary Jane Keeney, a State Department, U.N. employee and Soviet agent, was proven correct. McCarthy was right about Annie Lee Moss, an Army Code Clerk who was a member of the Communist Party.

Ken Ringle, in a Washington Post story about the new release of the hearings, still insisted that Annie Lee Moss was "a frail file clerk in the State Department who had no idea who Karl Marx was…" He and John W. Dean, in a column posted by CNN.com, made the claim that the derogatory term "McCarthyism" was coined by Washington Post cartoonist Herblock. But Herbert Romerstein, an expert on the Communist Party and Soviet espionage, points out that the term was introduced by the Communist Party to discredit the movement to root communists out of government.

Sheryl Gay Stolberg in the New York Times insisted that, "Historians who have reviewed the documents [the hearings] say they do not support McCarthy’s theories that, in the 1950s, Communist spies were operating at the highest levels of government." But the John Stewart Service spy ring also involved Laughlin Currie, an adviser to President Franklin Roosevelt, and they succeeded in manipulating U.S. foreign policy to enable the communists to seize China. Other top communists in government included Harry Dexter White at the Department of the Treasury and, of course, Alger Hiss of the State Department, a founder of the U.N.

Joel Brinkley in the New York Times said McCarthy did not hesitate "to destroy reputations and lives." In fact, some in the media wanted to destroy McCarthy. The Washington Post was preparing to publish major allegations of illegal conduct against McCarthy until it realized at the last minute that its major source was a con man. The coverage hasn’t changed that much over the years.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 05/27/2003 12:34:23 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

2 posted on 05/27/2003 12:37:12 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If common sense is so common, why is it so difficult to find it?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
BTT
3 posted on 05/27/2003 12:45:52 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Condi in '08!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I want to see us revive the subject of McCarthy and his hearings. I want to hear about the Stalinist cells in Washington, and if there were any abuses that came out of the hearings, I want to hear about them too.

For the sake of a new generation that barely knows who Stalin was, we need to start talking about the bloodbaths, the gulags, and the actors and writers and directors and cabinet members who supported them. Everyone knows about Hitler's 7 million or 12 million or whatever the final count turns out to be. Stalin's 20 million simply overloads the imagination, and the larger numbers killed by Mao's monsters hardly registers. The intellectuals and brahmins and beautiful people in our country that supported this horrorshow need to be exposed again and again, as many times as necessary until people get it. If it turns out that McCarthy overstepped his bounds, and I would like to see that documented, it at least remains true that he was not complicit in Stalin's reign of terror, he at least did not remain silent.


I think its time we stop running from McCarthy's ghost.
5 posted on 05/27/2003 1:18:22 PM PDT by marron
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Hi there Tailgunner, I appreciate your standing up for a great American, Senator Joe McCarthy. I knew most of what you wrote but there were things that were new and informative. To bad most people don't even know who the Senator was, or what he really did for America. I am under the impression that of the 59 inditated as Communists, 57 of them resigned and the other two who fought it in court were proved to be Communist and meted out sentences in prison. I'm going from memory as to the actual numbers, but I do know that the ones who fought it were proved guilty.
Al Ge
6 posted on 05/27/2003 1:19:31 PM PDT by Alge
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for the post.
7 posted on 05/27/2003 1:19:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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To: marron
Anne Coulter is about to release a new book championing McCarthy. The fit is about to hit the shan.
8 posted on 05/27/2003 1:20:11 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
You're kidding, dang she has got nerve. I will be first in line to read it.
9 posted on 05/27/2003 1:22:49 PM PDT by marron
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To: DPB101
Ping
10 posted on 05/27/2003 1:36:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Anne Coulter is about to release a new book championing McCarthy

Perhaps William F Buckley should consider re-releasing his book McCarthy and his Enemies. It annoyed quite a few liberals back in the 1950's.

11 posted on 05/27/2003 2:14:13 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It was the media of an earlier time and the forerunner of the "leftist media" that smeared McCarthy.If McCarthy had completed his work America would not be in sin pit it is today.
12 posted on 05/27/2003 2:48:08 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It has been some time but wasn't McCarthy vindicated when the USSR fell and some documentation was found there and those papers verified what McCarthy had charged?
13 posted on 05/27/2003 4:36:07 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The innocent victim I have in mind was not attacked by McCarthy, but did have his reputation destroyed by a McCarthy-inspired organization. Below is a biography of John Henry Faulk, from the Handbook of Texas Online:

FAULK, JOHN HENRY (1913-1990). John Henry Faulk, humorist and author, fourth of five children of Henry and Martha (Downs) Faulk, was born in Austin, Texas, on August 21, 1913. His parents were staunch yet freethinking Methodists who taught him to detest racism.

He entered the University of Texas in 1932. Under the guidance of J. Frank Dobie, Walter P. Webb, and Roy Bedichek,he developed his considerable abilities as a collector of folklore. For his master's degree thesis, Faulk recorded and analyzed ten African-American sermons from churches in Travis and Bexar counties. His research convinced him that members of minorities, particularly African Americans,qv faced grave limitations of their civil rights.

Between 1940 and 1942, Faulk taught an English I course at the University, using mimicry and storytelling to illustrate the best and worst of Texas societal customs. Often made to feel inferior at faculty gatherings, Faulk increasingly told unbelievable tales and bawdy jokes. His ability both to parody and to praise human behavior led to his entertainment and literary career.

Early in World War II the army refused to admit him because of a bad eye. In 1942 he joined the United States Merchant Marine for a year of trans-Atlantic duty, followed by a year with the Red Cross in Cairo, Egypt. By 1944 relaxed standards allowed the army to admit him for limited duty as a medic; he served the rest of the war at Camp Swift, Texas.

Radio provided Faulk the audience he, as a storyteller, craved. Through his friend Alan Lomax, who worked at the CBS network in New York, Faulk became acquainted with industry officials. During Christmas 1945, Lomax hosted a series of parties to showcase Faulk's yarn-spinning abilities. When discharged from the army in April 1946, CBS gave Faulk his own weekly radio program, entitled "Johnny's Front Porch"; it lasted a year. Faulk began a new program on suburban station WOV in 1947 and the next year moved to another New Jersey station, WPAT, where he established himself as a raconteur while hosting "Hi-Neighbor," "Keep 'em Smiling," and "North New Jersey Datebook."

WCBS Radio debuted the "John Henry Faulk Show" on December 17, 1951. The program, which featured music, political humor, and listener participation, ran for six years.

Faulk's radio career ended in 1957, a victim of the Cold War and the blacklisting of the 1950s. Inspired by Wisconsin Senator Joseph McCarthy, AWARE, Incorporated, a New York-based, for-profit, corporation, offered "clearance" services to major media advertisers and radio and television networks. For a fee, AWARE would investigate the backgrounds of entertainers for signs of Communist sympathy or affiliation. In 1955 Faulk earned the enmity of the blacklist organization when he and other members wrested control of their union, the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists from officers under the aegis of AWARE. In retaliation, AWARE branded Faulk a Communist. When he discovered that the AWARE bulletin prevented a radio station from making him an employment offer, Faulk sought redress.

Several prominent radio personalities and CBS News vice president Edward R. Murrow supported Faulk's effort to end blacklisting. With financial backing from Murrow, Faulk engaged New York attorney Louis Nizer. Attorneys for AWARE, including McCarthy-committee counsel Roy Cohn, managed to stall the suit, which was originally filed in 1957, for five years. When the trial finally concluded in a New York courtroom, the jury had determined that Faulk should receive more compensation than he sought in his original petition.

On June 28, 1962, the jury awarded him the largest libel judgment in history to that date-$3.5 million. An appeals court subsequently reduced the amount to $500,000. Legal fees and accumulated debts erased the balance of the award.

Despite his vindication, CBS did not rehire Faulk-indeed, years passed before he worked again as a media entertainer. He returned to Austin in 1968. From 1975 to 1980 he appeared as a homespun character on the television program "Hee-Haw." During the 1980s he wrote and produced two one-man plays. In both Deep in the Heart (1986) and Pear Orchard, Texas, he portrayed characters imbued with the best of human instincts and the worst of cultural prejudices.

The year 1974 proved pivotal for Faulk. CBS Television broadcast its movie version of Fear on Trial, Faulk's 1963 book that described his battle against AWARE. Also in 1974, Faulk read the dossier that the FBI had maintained on his activities since the 1940s. Disillusioned and desirous of a return to the country, Faulk moved to Madisonville, Texas. He returned to Austin in 1981. In 1983 he campaigned for the congressional seat abdicated by Democrat-turned-Republican Phil Gramm. Although he lost the three-way race, the humorist had spoken his mind. During the 1980s he traveled the nation urging university students to be ever vigilant of their constitutional rights and to take advantage of the freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment. The Center for American Historyqv at the University of Texas at Austin sponsors the John Henry Faulk Conference on the First Amendment.

In 1940 Faulk wed one of his students at the University of Texas, Hally Wood. They had a daughter. After he and Hally were divorced, Faulk married Lynne Smith, whom he met at a New York City rally for presidential candidate Henry Wallace in the spring of 1948. Born of their marriage were two daughters and a son. After his divorce from Lynne, Faulk married Elizabeth Peake in 1965: they had a son. Faulk died in Austin of cancer on April 9, 1990. The city of Austin named the downtown branch of the public library in his honor.

14 posted on 05/27/2003 4:47:09 PM PDT by theoverseer
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Sorry, but Joe McCarthy wasn't entirely "smeared."

It's true he did find some Communists but he also assisted Roy Cohn in an attempt to get special treatment and a commission for Cohn's queer lover, G. David Schine. He even used a doctored photograph to make his case.

Further, he attacked General Ralph Zwicker, a bona-fide war hero when things didn't go his way.

McCarthy was neither total heel nor total hero. He did some good but he also did some bad.

Although the hearings were slightly more than a month away, McCarthy was examining General Ralph Zwicker of the United States Army – a decorated war hero. General Zwicker failed to divulge the name(s) of those responsible for the promotion of an Army dentist, Major Irving Peress. Major Peress had refused to fill out forms that inquired about his affiliation with groups labeled as “subversive”. Infuriated with Peress’ promotion and frustrated with Zwicker’s failure to deliver, Senator Joseph McCarthy spouted personal attacks at the General, deeming him “unfit to wear the uniform” and announcing that he “does not have the brains of a five-year-old.”

(FWIW, Joe McCarthy's war record is less than sterling.)

http://www.umich.edu/~historyj/papers/winter2002/gottlieb3.html

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15 posted on 05/27/2003 4:48:29 PM PDT by JCG
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To: NormsRevenge; terilyn
Thanks for the ping.

For those who missed it, "terilyn" transcribed a speech LA Times reporter Robert Scheer gave at a 1968 protest in support of the "Oakland 7" draft dodgers. The Real Audio is archived at Berkeley. "terilyn's" work is probably the only transcript extent. For those who know the threat we faced, Scheer's polemic against America will be a "we told you so." For those who doubt McCarthy's charges, Scheer proves we've had and still have a fifth column in America. The transcript is here

16 posted on 05/27/2003 5:01:46 PM PDT by DPB101 (The first Lawyer elected Speaker of the House of Representatives was arrested for treason.)
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To: JCG
(FWIW, Joe McCarthy's war record is less than sterling.)

Care to tell us why you do not believe it measures up?

17 posted on 05/27/2003 5:04:41 PM PDT by DPB101 (The first Lawyer elected Speaker of the House of Representatives was arrested for treason.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Joe McCarthy. Good,Bad,or Otherwise the thing I find most enduring about the man is that he drove the Left Wing Media crazy back then. And here we are fifty years later and he's still pushing them over the edge.

They hyperventilate at the very mention of his name.
I have always found that hilarious.

You Go Joe.!!

18 posted on 05/27/2003 5:14:57 PM PDT by Pompah
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To: jscd3
Perhaps William F Buckley should consider re-releasing his book McCarthy and his Enemies. It annoyed quite a few liberals back in the 1950's.

Have you read Mr. Buckley's more recent (1999):

The Redhunter: A Novel Based on the Life of Senator Joe McCarthy

Interesting read.

19 posted on 05/27/2003 5:17:47 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The only thing McCarthy is guilty of is doing a good thing badly.
20 posted on 05/27/2003 5:20:55 PM PDT by nonliberal (Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
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To: jackbill
Have you read Mr. Buckley's more recent...

No, I haven't had the opportunity, but it is on my List Of Books To Read When I Get A Chance.

21 posted on 05/27/2003 5:32:28 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: theoverseer
Faulk married Lynne Smith, whom he met at a New York City rally for presidential candidate Henry Wallace in the spring of 1948.

I know nothig of Faulk but nearly every organization which endorsed Wallace for president was a Soviet front. If Faulk was slandered, it is a shame. But that was not the norm. The threat was real and those who refused to testify were, almost to a person, on the side of the Soviet Union. The CPUSA was funded and directed by Moscow. Those who belonged knew that. They were agents of a foreign power.

What receives little attention today is that the real "witch-hunt" occurred a dozen years before McCarthy was elected to the Senate.

McCormick-Dickstein hearings of 1934 smeared many Americans by accusing them of being part of a fascist conspiracy to overthrow the US government.

Dickstein (D-NY) was on the payroll of the Soviet Union.

The 1934 hearing were only the start for Dickstein. On February 11, 1941 he took to the floor of the House of Representatives and alleged:

One hundred and ten fascist organizations in the United States have had, and have now the key to the back door of the Un-American Activities Committee!

Nice huh? Less than a year before we entered WWII, when America was helping the UK fight Nazism, Dickstein smeared decent Americans, some of whom, no doubt, would soon give their lives fighting fascism.

Dickstein himself had introduced, on Stalin's orders, the bill creating HCUA (HUAC). He was furious that his baby had turned on his comrades and was now investigating communists. And he was willing to smear anyone who hinted that communists had infiltrated the US government. This from a person who was selling visas to the Soviets when he chaired an immigration committee.

A similar parallel existed with Hollywood. The real Hollywood Blacklist happened before the testimony of the Hollywood Ten in the 1950s (who were, by the way, members of the Communist Party USA).The real blacklist denied jobs to those who were not communist sympathizers. And it was ugly. Rumors were floated to studio executives, many of whom were Jewish, that this writer or that actor supported Adolf Hitler. Talk about a career killer. More on the real Hollywood Blacklist here.

22 posted on 05/27/2003 6:05:17 PM PDT by DPB101 (The first Lawyer elected Speaker of the House of Representatives was arrested for treason.)
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To: DPB101
(FWIW, Joe McCarthy's war record is less than sterling.)

Care to tell us why you do not believe it measures up?

Until the speech, billed as a tribute to mark the birthday of Abraham Lincoln, McCarthy was best known in Washington for pushing legislation to benefit Wisconsin's industries and for exaggerating his service record during World War II. He calls himself "Tailgunner Joe" in campaign literature, even though he was a paper-pusher in the Marine Corps.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/doc/1047/1:MIL1950/1:MIL1950011899.html

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23 posted on 05/27/2003 6:12:24 PM PDT by JCG
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To: DPB101
Thanks for the ping.

That was a fascinating audio link you found. Anybody that hasn't listened should. Quite an eye opener!
24 posted on 05/27/2003 7:10:32 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: JCG
Link doesn't work. The article is in google cache but that too brings up a blank. Who wrote it? What are the sources for the "McCarthy was best known (for)" comment?
25 posted on 05/27/2003 7:14:09 PM PDT by DPB101 (The first Lawyer elected Speaker of the House of Representatives was arrested for treason.)
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To: theoverseer
whom he met at a New York City rally for presidential candidate Henry Wallace in the spring of 1948

Sounds like he deserved what he got. Wallace was an airheaded fellow-traveler with the enthusiastic support of all the Communists and the worst left-wing elements int he country. Faulk supporting him simply shows his real character.

26 posted on 05/27/2003 8:24:23 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: JCG
FWIW, Joe McCarthy's war record is less than sterling.

At a time when many men were being drafted, McCarthy gave up his judicial bench at the age of 34 and enlisted in the Marines. He was made an intelligence officer for Marine aviation at the rank of 2nd Lieutenant and worked his way up to Captain at discharge. When the anti-McCarthyites haggle over how many missions he flew, they miss the point - not only did he not have to be in the Marine Corps in harms way, but he was not required to fly on any missions - he volunteered for that too.

Not that many others did such a thing, and he was hardly under the threat of the draft. "He didn't have to go to war, but he did." (Wisconsin State Journal, 7/18/1946). You defame a great American, sir.

27 posted on 05/27/2003 8:45:47 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: nonliberal
No, worse. Doing a good thing well.
28 posted on 05/27/2003 8:46:51 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
I disagree. McCarthy was not the best person, Jenner would have been better.
29 posted on 05/28/2003 5:50:32 AM PDT by nonliberal (Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
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To: JCG
The "doctored" portion of the photograph was inconsequential.
30 posted on 05/28/2003 5:53:13 AM PDT by nonliberal (Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
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To: DPB101
Exactly. Roosevelt was more brutal on the America Firsters than McCarthy was on the Communists.
31 posted on 05/28/2003 5:55:12 AM PDT by nonliberal (Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
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To: nonliberal; Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge
Not as familiar with that era as I am with communists and post WWII. Are there any even handed books on it? Most of what I find on the net are either far left attacks or neo-fascist cheerleading. Has Smedley Butler been reconsidered? Seen people on the left and the right both speak highly of him. Now that we've discovered the man who helped bring him to national attention was a Soviet agent it makes one wonder whose side he was really on.
32 posted on 05/28/2003 10:05:53 AM PDT by DPB101 (The first Lawyer elected Speaker of the House of Representatives was arrested for treason.)
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To: JCG
Why does the Star Telegram continue to write such commie propaganda?
33 posted on 05/28/2003 12:36:24 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: DPB101
Dickstein led the fight against the registration of aliens, thereby hampering any effort to keep track of commie aliens flooding our shores to foment revolution.
34 posted on 05/28/2003 2:59:54 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: HISSKGB
McCarthy trivia:

Greta Van Susteren's father, Urban Van Susteren, ran Joe McCarthy's successful 1946 campaign for the U.S .Senate.

35 posted on 05/28/2003 4:33:37 PM PDT by DPB101 (The first Lawyer elected Speaker of the House of Representatives was arrested for treason.)
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To: marron
"Sheryl Gay Stolberg in the New York Times insisted that, "Historians who have reviewed the documents [the hearings] say they do not support McCarthy’s theories that, in the 1950s, Communist spies were operating at the highest levels of government...."

This statement is so typical of liberal spin control. There is very little new information in declassified documents from the McCarthy hearings; with no new information being released the NY times reporter feels no compunction about baldly asserting that there is "no proof of Communist spies operating at the highest levels of Government." This is liberal spin control 101: don't answer the difficult question, answer an easier, related question that makes you look better.

What the reporter failed to mention was that the declassified Venona transcipts of Soviet diplomatic traffic completely vindicates McCarthy's entire investigatory effort as it has been show beyond any doubt that several high level spy rings were active at the highest levels of Government, in academia, and in Hollywood. These spy rings were controlled and funded by Moscow. The Venona transcripts also proved that Alger Hiss was a Soviet agent; this fact was omitted in Alger Hiss' obituary in the NY times.

When the Left does not like a particular hitorical outcome they commence assiduously re-writing it. The Left is now attempting to portray the Cold War as a mistake of American policy makers consistently misinterpreting Russian "intentions". Such outrageously ahistorical revisionism should not be left unchallenged.
36 posted on 05/28/2003 5:27:16 PM PDT by ggekko
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To: DPB101
Link doesn't work.

Link works fine. Do a string search for "Tailgunner" when you get there.

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37 posted on 05/28/2003 5:52:34 PM PDT by JCG
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Not that many others did such a thing, and he was hardly under the threat of the draft. "He didn't have to go to war, but he did." (Wisconsin State Journal, 7/18/1946). You defame a great American, sir.

Yeah, right. Use a 1946 article to defend someone who committed his crimes years later.

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38 posted on 05/28/2003 5:55:00 PM PDT by JCG
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To: nonliberal
The "doctored" portion of the photograph was inconsequential.

Sounds like a Bill Klinton defense. It depends on what your definition of "lie" is.

It was "doctored" to make G. David Schine look like he was someone of importance who should be elevated from private to Lt. But, far from hobnobbing with anybody really important, he was shown to be just part of a large group shot when the actual photo was released.

As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. And, with a little "surgery" maybe 10,000.

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39 posted on 05/28/2003 6:05:58 PM PDT by JCG
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
What an ironic post considering your post 26 completely ignores Faulk's attempt at enlisting in WWII, his subsequent volunteering and serving in the Merchant Marines in the N. Atlantic(very risky, ever hear of a U-boat?), and subsequent military service as a medic. His political leanings may have been unwise, but he certainly went to some length to volunteer and served his country during WWII. That counts for something, and suggests that he likely was not a hardcore Communist subversive.
40 posted on 05/28/2003 6:13:35 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
That counts for something, and suggests that he likely was not a hardcore Communist subversive.

To the contrary friend. In WWII we fought vociferously on the side of and for the cause of Communism in our campaign in Europe. Billions of dollars of material were diverted from our troops to Soviet Russia. It would be typical of a communist or fellow-traveller to volunteer for such a fight. The main resistors of WWII were the Nazi sympathizers and the Old Right. Lets not forget that Soviet Russia was just as much an agressor as Nazi Germany, and in the titanic match of the war called Operation Barbarossa, was beat the to punch by Germany by a matter of weeks.

41 posted on 05/28/2003 6:55:04 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: DPB101
It's hard find anything positive about McCarthy through a google search because of the commie pervasiveness in the US media. Sparticus is a blatent example of twisting facts to manipulate and downplay commie treason.
42 posted on 05/28/2003 6:58:59 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: JCG
Sen. Joe McCarthy? Crimes? You must be kidding! Care to elucidate on this new nugget?
43 posted on 05/28/2003 7:04:22 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
McCarthy had IRS problems which is a no-brainer considering who he was going after. The stories that he frequented homosexual watering holes came from a 1952 Las Vegas article written by Hank Greenspun (can we spell "Lansky" everyone?)
44 posted on 05/29/2003 5:09:13 AM PDT by DPB101 (The first Lawyer elected Speaker of the House of Representatives was arrested for treason.)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Thanks to Soviet agents in the FDR administration, Russia was never required to repay for these loans of equipment. The English, on the other hand, were made to pay.
45 posted on 05/29/2003 3:47:30 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: JCG
"The photo had already been altered by the Army when they sent the copy to McCarthy staffer James Juliana for public display; the missing portion changed nothing; it clearly showed Stevens and Schine beaming at each other in the same good spirits."
Herman, Arthur; Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator, p. 267

The camp commander was the third person in the photo and was inconsequential to the hearing.

46 posted on 05/29/2003 8:56:11 PM PDT by nonliberal (Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Sen. Joe McCarthy? Crimes? You must be kidding! Care to elucidate on this new nugget?

You're right, "crimes" is a bit harsh. Let's just say McCarthy's "offenses." (You can begin with Wheeling, WV, February, 1950.)

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47 posted on 05/31/2003 3:20:45 AM PDT by JCG
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You're right, "crimes" is a bit harsh. Let's just say McCarthy's "offenses." (You can begin with Wheeling, WV, February, 1950.)

How was this an "offense"? Have you ever actually read what he said at the time, both in the speech, and later in the Congress?

48 posted on 06/02/2003 9:46:42 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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How was this an "offense"? Have you ever actually read what he said at the time, both in the speech, and later in the Congress?

At Wheeling, he claimed to have a list of 205 Communists/sympathizers. Later that number was lowered to other numbers and finally in the Congressional Record to 57. At any rate, he produced no list.

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49 posted on 06/03/2003 4:44:44 AM PDT by JCG
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At Wheeling, he claimed to have a list of 205 Communists/sympathizers. Later that number was lowered to other numbers and finally in the Congressional Record to 57. At any rate, he produced no list.

At Wheeling he claimed to have 57 Communists. The 205 number is a fabrication based on various misrepresenations. The list of them is included in "McCarthy and His Enemies" by William F. Buckley, along with 24 other individuals later included during the investigation. He refused to release them by name in a big list for the Media and the rest of Congress. He specifically said in the Congressional Record that "It would be a shame if we were to accuse someone to be a Communist and they were not." This is my best recollection. I'll check and make sure I have this correct tonight, and give you the reference in the Congressional Record for you to persue.

50 posted on 06/03/2003 5:58:39 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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