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Border Patrol plans 20 emergency beacons south of Tucson to save border-crossers
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 27 May 2003 | Ignacio Ibarra

Posted on 05/27/2003 9:14:55 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder

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The Border Patrol plans to install 20 emergency beacon towers in the desert south and southwest of Tucson in a bid to save lives of illegal border-crossers and even drug-traffickers who find themselves in distress.

The beacons — all located about 15 to 30 miles north of the border — will stretch from the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge in western Pima County to the area north of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge south of Tucson.

The rescue beacons are similar to six other beacons installed south of Yuma in the Border Patrol's Yuma Sector more than a year ago, said Border Patrol spokesman Roy Villareal, in Washington, D.C., who heads the agency's National Border Safety Initiative.

Those beacons have been credited with the rescue of 26 people in four separate incidents, including the rescue of three U.S. citizens, students working on a class project, who were stranded when their vehicle broke down.

Villareal said the 30-foot tall towers, mounted on a concrete base with a 3-foot-square footprint, could be deployed very quickly once the assessment is completed, and could be in place in time for the hottest part of summer, he said.

Read more about this story in Wednesday's Arizona Daily Star.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; beacons; border; coyotes; illegals; navigation
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These will undoubtedly save a few lives. On the other hand, the coyotes are all celebrating the fact that they will soon have 20 additional navigation beacons to use out there in the tumbleweeds.
1 posted on 05/27/2003 9:14:56 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder
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To: Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; B4Ranch; madfly; FITZ; Reaganwuzthebest; hsmomx3; ...
Ping!
2 posted on 05/27/2003 9:15:52 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a vigilant cucaracha.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
It's a good thing, because with the loss of one trauma center in Tucson, and illegals taking up the one left, that would leave Tucson's trauma victims up a creek.
3 posted on 05/27/2003 9:18:39 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: JackelopeBreeder
GREAT, now not only are we paying for the illegal's health care, we are now providing them with road signs to the heartland. Part of the deterent to crossings was the desert, and now we do this.... What's next, lemonade stands!!
4 posted on 05/27/2003 9:20:17 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 ("..he's not heavy, sir. He's my brother...")
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To: JackelopeBreeder
The story doesn't say what the identifying item is.

Is it FLIR or something else, just visual?

5 posted on 05/27/2003 9:21:27 PM PDT by Nitro
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To: DLfromthedesert
Got that right. I've been an Arizona resident for 32 years and I have always avoided going into the area where these beacons are being placed.
6 posted on 05/27/2003 9:24:12 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a vigilant cucaracha.)
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To: cavtrooper21
GREAT, now not only are we paying for the illegal's health care, we are now providing them with road signs to the heartland. Part of the deterent to crossings was the desert, and now we do this.... What's next, lemonade stands!!

Just wait the lemonade stands will be opening in August , that will be when they are really needed.

7 posted on 05/27/2003 9:25:09 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: JackelopeBreeder
why don't they just build a fence, a road on the north side, and monitor it by air?

then they wouldn't have to respond to the left's guilt trips.
8 posted on 05/27/2003 9:25:16 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Refreshments will be served.
9 posted on 05/27/2003 9:26:29 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Nitro
Flashing beacon. If you're in trouble, just walk up to it and push the alarm button. Your ride will arrive shortly...
10 posted on 05/27/2003 9:26:52 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a vigilant cucaracha.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
I guess I don't get this one... Isn't aiding and abetting a felony a felony?
11 posted on 05/27/2003 9:27:34 PM PDT by djf
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Villareal said the 30-foot tall towers, mounted on a concrete base with a 3-foot-square footprint, could be deployed very quickly once the assessment is completed, and could be in place in time for the hottest part of summer, he said.

That should be 30-foot tall towers mounted on a concrete base with a 3-foot-square footprint, with adequate food, water, and shelter, all enclosed within a ten-foot chainlink fence with razor wire and a one-way turnstile gate monitored by a live camera...

Walk in the gate and the system makes a phone call.

12 posted on 05/27/2003 9:28:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: cavtrooper21
What's next, lemonade stands!!

Wait until they sue for using genetically altered lemons.

-PJ

13 posted on 05/27/2003 9:28:26 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
On the other hand, the coyotes are all celebrating the fact that they will soon have 20 additional navigation beacons

Any coyote worth his salt can afford a hand-held GPS receiver. These beacons will not only save lives, but may well channel illegals into the hands of Border Patrol agents.

14 posted on 05/27/2003 9:29:10 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: liberalnot
The fence and the road are already there. Aerial surveillance is a sometime thing.
15 posted on 05/27/2003 9:29:42 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a vigilant cucaracha.)
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To: Romulus
When used as designed, the Border Patrol is the responder. They render aid and then deport them. GPS is nice; mine is top of the line and includes road and topo maps on its display. But at night you really need a visually reference to steer by or you're going to be moving very slowly -- especially in that terrain.
16 posted on 05/27/2003 9:34:56 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a vigilant cucaracha.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
The Border Patrol plans to install 20 emergency beacon towers in the desert south and southwest of Tucson in a bid to save lives of illegal border-crossers and even drug-traffickers who find themselves in distress.

Creating target rich environments. The smart Coyotes will avoid them like the plague.

If these beacons cause more Mexicans to attempt the crossing in the Summer South of Tucson then they are not doing them any favors.

17 posted on 05/27/2003 9:36:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Soddom has left the bunker.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
along the w-h-o-l-e arizona border? then, something's really wrong with the border patrol.

california's extends only along the urban area of san diego to the mountains. but the mountains are a formidable obstruction. only the hardy get along.
18 posted on 05/27/2003 9:36:15 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
There will also be a large neon sign----BUS STOP
19 posted on 05/27/2003 9:36:49 PM PDT by tbird1
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To: Political Junkie Too
Nah it'll be even worse, they'll sue us for using lemons that are contaminated with pesticides (FROM MEXICO!!!)
NAFTA strikes again...
20 posted on 05/27/2003 9:38:37 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 ("..he's not heavy, sir. He's my brother...")
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To: cavtrooper21
Could it be the spill-over from paraquat?

-PJ

21 posted on 05/27/2003 9:40:29 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
i went through the temecula check point today. the traffic was so heavy, it's an 8-lane freeway, with the 4 north bound lanes full, that the border patrol pulled back and opened it up.

i'm fed up with the temecula and san onofre check points. they do next to nothing. and they're just public advertisements for the feds--"hey, we're here doing something!"

they ought to take these employees and put them on the border and leave law-abiding americans alone.
22 posted on 05/27/2003 9:41:20 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
We can't afford to put enough border patrol on the border or in the interior to stop the invasion and remove the squatters, but we can afford to set up welcome stations for the arriving hordes.

Say, didn't Clinton leave office recently? Why is this crap still going on? I think there's a bug in the ointment here.....


23 posted on 05/27/2003 9:45:26 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Your tax dollars at work.
24 posted on 05/27/2003 9:45:42 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: JackelopeBreeder
This Government has gone insane, it's main job is to protect our borders and it doesn't even pretend to make an attempt to do that, meanwhile the strippus of more and more of our rights and our money.
25 posted on 05/27/2003 9:48:36 PM PDT by SAMWolf ("They are not dead who live in hearts they leave behind" - Hugh Robert Orr - They Softly Walk)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
As long as when they're done saving their lives, they ship them back home where they belong. It's more than what Mexico would do for its own people.
26 posted on 05/27/2003 9:54:36 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Tancredo Fan
i was listening to the john and ken show on kfi while driving home this afternoon.

john had rep. tancredo on who spoke to the issue of the garbage that immigrants dump, as mentioned on fr before. he said that he found an irs application for earned income credit in the trash. apparently the applicant had made some money in the u.s. but had been given several thousands of dollars of eic.

interesting was john's question, why do other elected representatives not care about immigration?

tancredo replied that some of them do mention it privately to him but that they're afraid to go against the democrats or the white house on immigration.

john commented that it's strange how we got to the point where our own elected officials are afraid to deal with illegal immigration.
27 posted on 05/27/2003 9:58:47 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: liberalnot
Our checkpoints dealt with a much smaller population, 120,000 in the entire county. The longest wait I ever experienced was about two minutes.

They were very effective as there are only five roads out of here -- and we are roughly the same size as Connecticut and Rhode Island combined. Before the checkpoints closed, the illegals faced about a 50 mile hike on foot before they were safe to catch a ride.
28 posted on 05/27/2003 10:00:41 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a vigilant cucaracha.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
several days ago i posted an article that stated the american population would possibly reach 500,000,000. this would be partly due to illegal immigration and to our native birthrate, which demographers say has mysteriously increased.

the key point, relative to this thread is--apparently the u.s. government has NO intention of stopping illegal immigration. or, the population would not be ballooning up to 500 million.

29 posted on 05/27/2003 10:05:58 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: Romulus
These beacons will not only save lives, but may well channel illegals into the hands of Border Patrol agents.

That's the way I see it. To me it's could be a good plan --- there is compassion in it ---but whether thristy illegals head toward the beacons or drug-smuggling or nonthirsty illegals head away from them, there'd be a possibility of catching them either way.

30 posted on 05/27/2003 10:13:15 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: JackelopeBreeder
I can't believe our blessed government hasn't hired taxis to bring illegals across the border with minimal stress. Bend over folks, it's party time at your expense.
31 posted on 05/27/2003 10:14:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: JackelopeBreeder
drug-traffickers who find themselves in distress

Am I cold hearted or something? I don't give a damn about distressed drug trafficers. I hope they bake in the desert and provide a meal for the creatures there.

32 posted on 05/27/2003 10:14:33 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen
the socialists have always used america's humane values against america.

the soviets did it. the chicoms did it. the cubans do it.

and american university "intellectuals" do it.

i believe it was one of hillary's mentor's principles--saul alinsky's "rules for radicals".
33 posted on 05/27/2003 10:18:43 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: FITZ
True, but we're talking about 20 towers in an area that stretches about 160 miles. That's still something like 3,000+ square miles for people to come to grief.

Most people see Arizona from I-10, I-8, or I-40 and think it looks totally desolate. That's the Garden of Eden compared to the area where these towers are being placed.
34 posted on 05/27/2003 10:23:01 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a vigilant cucaracha.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Still ---no one will object to 30 foot towers placed 80 miles apart if they're to save lives ---but what would stop them from also attaching cameras and infrared cameras and other detection devices which could also be used to save lives and find people who need a ride back to Mexico.
35 posted on 05/27/2003 10:40:42 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: liberalnot
I've been back in the former homeland in Calif. for a couple of weeks and heard Tancredo on KFI this afternoon too.

He's 100% correct. Neither one of these mainstream parties are ever going to deal with the most important issue facing America today... they are both eager to sell the country down the Rio Grande for a few pesos and a few illegal votes.It's utterly pathetic. Reminds me of Washoe County's old Mustang Ranch. Same concept, but one must consider the the fact that the Mustang Ranch no longer exists. Hmmmm.....

36 posted on 05/27/2003 10:51:23 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Irish Eyes
And they will give each of them a handful of free lottery tickets, and scratch off tickets, and two glazed KRISPYKreme doughnuts and a big ole mug of STARBUCKS house blend coffee!! Oh and a big ole bag of CarlsJr. burgers!!
37 posted on 05/27/2003 11:06:28 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Tancredo Fan
Bump.

Tancredo for President.

38 posted on 05/27/2003 11:12:49 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Bush for Mexican navy mascot)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
CRIMINAL INVADERS
round em up
move em out
raw hide
Go into mexico and take back all things
stolen in 1938.
39 posted on 05/27/2003 11:16:12 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes (moore is goebbels))
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To: liberalnot
along the w-h-o-l-e arizona border? then, something's really wrong with the border patrol.

The politics on the State level have been infested by pro-Aztlan people. The Feds are being duped by PC/multicultural claptrap. They have truly destroyed the West. It's coming to a city near you....stand up and shout at the first invasion or you'll be sorry.
40 posted on 05/27/2003 11:29:29 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: cavtrooper21
Place the beacons in a circle. This would 'round up' the illegals for the border patrol.
41 posted on 05/28/2003 12:36:05 AM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Most people see Arizona from I-10, I-8, or I-40 and think it looks totally desolate. That's the Garden of Eden compared to the area where these towers are being placed.
Very true.
42 posted on 05/28/2003 6:43:03 AM PDT by wjcsux
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Sounds to me like you should buy a roach coach & drive between the beacons selling tacos & burritos. Might just make a buck. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em....
43 posted on 05/28/2003 9:35:18 AM PDT by gubamyster
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I can do that right here within a couple of miles of my house.
44 posted on 05/28/2003 10:04:31 AM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a vigilant cucaracha.)
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To: Tancredo Fan
We can't afford to put enough border patrol on the border or in the interior to stop the invasion and remove the squatters, but we can afford to set up welcome stations for the arriving hordes.

I agree with you on the invasion thing but I don't see these beacons as "welcome stations". The beacons are simply flypaper. Hungry or thirsty or distressed border intruders will be attracted to them and will hit the panic button. BP will come and apprehend them and anyone with them. I believe they might serve to reduce the number of deaths in the desert and increase the number of apprehensions.

On the flipside, knowing the beacons are there might invite MORE intruders because they know that if they get into trouble out in the desert they can just call a mulligan and try again another day. The desert won't be seen as much the threat that it is now and that may entice more intruders to attempt to cross. This may, in fact, backfire.

The answer, of course, is to stop them at the damn border. Don't even let them across. Keep them out of the deadly deserts, etc. There's the line - there's the law - what's the problem!!?

45 posted on 05/28/2003 10:22:12 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: djf
I guess I don't get this one... Isn't aiding and abetting a felony a felony?

Nah. This offers them an easy way to turn themselves in.

46 posted on 05/28/2003 10:41:42 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Spiff
There's the line - there's the law - what's the problem!!?

At 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500.

47 posted on 05/28/2003 10:45:26 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Joe Bfstplk
Place the beacons in a circle. This would 'round up' the illegals for the border patrol.

Good plan. But it needs some small additional refinements.


48 posted on 05/28/2003 10:50:19 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: liberalnot
the key point, relative to this thread is--apparently the u.s. government has NO intention of stopping illegal immigration. or, the population would not be ballooning up to 500 million.

The most authoritative number I've heard quoted as to the number of illegal aliens already in the US is ten million. Just what do they have in mind that they need any more for.

Oh well, I suppose it makes for a swell slave labour pool.

-archy-/-

49 posted on 05/28/2003 10:53:36 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: liberalnot
You must be talking about this:


50 posted on 05/28/2003 11:15:33 AM PDT by Spiff
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