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Plane disappears after take-off (Luanda, Angola)
Australia News ^ | May 29, 2003 | Australia News

Posted on 05/28/2003 9:43:42 AM PDT by FairOpinion

A BOEING 727 passenger jet, grounded at Luanda airport a year ago, has disappeared after a mysterious unauthorised take-off, Angola state radio reported today.

The plane, chartered by the Angolan airline Airangol, was grounded after being banned from overflying Angolan territory on account of a series of irregularities, said Angola civil aviation director Helder Preza.

A witness to the plane's departure on Sunday, airport employee Luis Lopes, said he saw a white man start the empty plane and then take off after a few dangerous land manoeuvres.

Airport chief Celso Rosa said there was some evidence to believe the Boeing had been fuelled up at Luanda airport, and said he would provide this information to the transportation ministry's investigation into the incident.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 727; africa; airangola; angola; boeing; disappear; gambia; luanda; missingplane; plane; repo; stolenplane
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The time on the article was about 20 min ago, it was listed in breaking news in the Australia News.

Question obviously who took the plane and what they intend to do with it ( I hope they don't plan to fly it into some buildings).

1 posted on 05/28/2003 9:43:42 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
keep us updated!
2 posted on 05/28/2003 9:45:00 AM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS (custom made smarmy, sanctimonious taglines created while you wait!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Just another day in the life of a repo man.
3 posted on 05/28/2003 9:45:39 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: FairOpinion
...was grounded after being banned from overflying Angolan territory on account of a series of irregularities...

Irregularities?

4 posted on 05/28/2003 9:47:44 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Labyrinthos
Just another day in the life of a repo man.

That's just what I was thinking. Someone was a little behind on payments for the plane.
5 posted on 05/28/2003 9:48:05 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: Labyrinthos
I was thinking something similar. The owner of the plane just wanted it back.
6 posted on 05/28/2003 9:49:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: FairOpinion
Plane disappears after take-off

Has anyone seen David Copperfield?

7 posted on 05/28/2003 9:49:50 AM PDT by sharktrager (There are 2 kids of people in this world: people with loaded guns and people who dig.)
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To: July 4th; Angelus Errare; hchutch; Grampa Dave; Coop; Miss Marple
Or something far worse...
8 posted on 05/28/2003 9:50:15 AM PDT by Dog (LOST: Beloved Pet answers to the name QUAGMIRE if found call Howell Raines lost since Afghanistan.)
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To: July 4th
So what the heck was glowing in the suitcase in the trunk?
9 posted on 05/28/2003 9:52:13 AM PDT by 50sDad (Close the door! Are we cooling the entire neighborhood? And clean your room!)
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To: FairOpinion
Who REFUELED it?
10 posted on 05/28/2003 9:53:17 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: sharktrager
I was thinking along the lines of a romulan cloaking device.
11 posted on 05/28/2003 9:54:06 AM PDT by isom35
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To: FairOpinion

12 posted on 05/28/2003 9:57:13 AM PDT by Nexus
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To: OXENinFLA
That's what the green-glowing suitcase was for...
13 posted on 05/28/2003 9:57:54 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (It's not nice to fool Mr. Rumsfeld!)
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To: Nexus
Ok, smarty, plot us a flight radius - where can they crash the thing, if that's the intent?
14 posted on 05/28/2003 9:58:53 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (It's not nice to fool Mr. Rumsfeld!)
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To: FairOpinion
The 727 has a range of about 4000 miles, FYI.
15 posted on 05/28/2003 10:01:02 AM PDT by Nexus
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To: Dog; Poohbah; BOBTHENAILER
Okay, why would someone want to STEAL an old Boeing airliner?
16 posted on 05/28/2003 10:01:19 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: Nexus
Sorry, that's 4000 km (about 2500 miles).
17 posted on 05/28/2003 10:02:34 AM PDT by Nexus
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To: FairOpinion
"...said he saw a white man start the empty plane and then take off after a few dangerous land manoeuvres."

The 727 isn't an easy bird to fly by yourself, unless it has been modded down to a 2-person crew config. Normally the -27 crewed 3 people.

And you don't just hook up a hose and fuel th' thing. Fueling is an operation that attracts plenty of attention and takes several pipple. Further, if the a/c has just been sitting there for a year, there's a lot of missed maintenance that may cause severe airworthiness issues. Of course, the plane in question might have already had enough fuel on board, and someone MIGHT have been maintaining it to at least some degree. And you need a way to get aboard. I don't think many 727's came with deployable stairways.

There's got to be a lot more to this story. But it DOES sound a lot like Repo Man.

Michael

18 posted on 05/28/2003 10:03:31 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: Nexus
"Sorry, that's 4000 km (about 2500 miles)."

Might be a bit more since the a/c had no pax or cargo. But that assumes that this one guy could get the craft fully-fueled without attracting a lot of attention. Pretty tall order.

Michael

19 posted on 05/28/2003 10:06:48 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: Nexus; hchutch
What is within that 2500 mile radius??
20 posted on 05/28/2003 10:09:51 AM PDT by Dog (LOST: Beloved Pet answers to the name QUAGMIRE if found call Howell Raines lost since Afghanistan.)
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To: Wright is right!
Could one man get this plane airborne..fly short distance and sit it down in the brush???

Is this doable??

21 posted on 05/28/2003 10:11:22 AM PDT by Dog (LOST: Beloved Pet answers to the name QUAGMIRE if found call Howell Raines lost since Afghanistan.)
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To: Frank_Discussion
I looked it upand it said 4200 mi range, which is quite a ways, even from S. W. Africa. And of course they could refuel elsewhere too. Looking at the map and the scale, it could make it to France, Italy, Turkey, Israel... you pick.
22 posted on 05/28/2003 10:14:03 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Frank_Discussion
Well, its out of range of the US (about 5000 miles away), but within range of Europe.


23 posted on 05/28/2003 10:14:11 AM PDT by Nexus
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To: FairOpinion
Thanks. Was that 4200 mi or 4200 km?
24 posted on 05/28/2003 10:17:28 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (It's not nice to fool Mr. Rumsfeld!)
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To: FairOpinion
Just when my shrink said I was finally getting over my Hanging Chad PTSD Syndrome I had to see a map of Africa with Chad on it. :o(
25 posted on 05/28/2003 10:18:58 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Nexus
Actually, Europe is looking to be a stretch. Saudia Arabia would be more do-able.
26 posted on 05/28/2003 10:21:04 AM PDT by Nexus
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To: Wright is right!
Fueling is an operation that attracts plenty of attention and takes several pipple

I see another entry in the FReeper lexicon.

27 posted on 05/28/2003 10:21:11 AM PDT by Tree of Liberty (my cat's breath smells of Cheeto's and marshmallows)
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To: Tree of Liberty
yep
28 posted on 05/28/2003 10:22:24 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
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To: Wright is right!
I saw 4200 Miles here -- but I just noticed after reading your post that those with some auxiliary tanks.

http://www.prestige.mc/monaco/727jet.htm

They are selling 727-s as exec planes.

This truly exceptional aircraft is equipped with winglets and the Stage 3 FedEx Hush-kit. The aircraft has been recently fitted with the newest generation Auxiliary Fuel Tanks for extended range and performance.

The winglets and auxiliary tanks offer the following performance enhancements:

7% shorter runway length
8% shorter time to altitude
7% less fuel burn
4200 mile range with IFR reserves
29 posted on 05/28/2003 10:22:49 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
I can't believe it's been 3 days, and no one knows where it landed (except for the perps, of course).
30 posted on 05/28/2003 10:24:32 AM PDT by Nexus
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To: Nexus
I can't believe it's been 3 days, and no one knows where it landed (except for the perps, of course).

Maybe it didn't land so much as it crashed.

31 posted on 05/28/2003 10:26:48 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Nexus
"A witness to the plane's departure on Sunday"

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How did I miss this? I saw that it was breaking news, "Angola radio reported today" and missed that the darn plane was seen leaving 3 days ago!

It could be in LYbia, Somalia, any number of places where they don't watch that closely or actively support terrorism.
32 posted on 05/28/2003 10:27:37 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Yes, but no whirlpool...
33 posted on 05/28/2003 10:28:20 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Nexus
"I can't believe it's been 3 days, and no one knows where it landed"

land? You mean I got to land this thing too?!.... DOH!!!

34 posted on 05/28/2003 10:28:41 AM PDT by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
yes, they didn't get thier dose of metamusil
35 posted on 05/28/2003 10:33:39 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Do you have to be Tolerant to the Intolerant?)
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To: FairOpinion
"A witness to the plane's departure on Sunday..."

Isn't this article a few days late?

36 posted on 05/28/2003 10:35:42 AM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Dog
"Could one man get this plane airborne..fly short distance and sit it down in the brush??? Is this doable??"

It might be if he never intended the aircraft to ever fly again. He's going to have to have something long and solid to land on if he's to put in down in a reusable manner.

One man could fly it, but the original configuration included a Flight Engineer, seated at a 90-degree angle behind the co-pilot. The FE has all the goodies to run the engines and power systems, so this One Man would have to start out there and then move to the left seat once he got the turbines spooled to idle. Of course, this bird COULD have been re-configged to a 2-man operation, in which case he could start it up from the left seat. But even so, the 2-7 is not a bird you'd like to take up solo. Too much workload.

Michael

37 posted on 05/28/2003 10:37:54 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: Tree of Liberty
Re: "pipple"

"I see another entry in the FReeper lexicon."

We have to credit Nelson Mandela for this one. He refers to US citizens as "Amurrican pipple." Rush has used the term occasionally...

Michael

38 posted on 05/28/2003 10:39:42 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: FairOpinion
Plane disappears after take-off

How'd they do that?

39 posted on 05/28/2003 10:43:14 AM PDT by b4its2late (Blessed are those who hunger and thirst, for they are sticking to their diets.)
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To: Wright is right!
Maybe these guys did it:


40 posted on 05/28/2003 10:46:37 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (It's not nice to fool Mr. Rumsfeld!)
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To: b4its2late
Plane disappears after take-off

How'd they do that?

Same way the Red Sox disappear everytime they play the Yankee's...

41 posted on 05/28/2003 10:47:38 AM PDT by Dog (LOST: Beloved Pet answers to the name QUAGMIRE if found call Howell Raines lost since Afghanistan.)
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To: Nexus
I can't believe it's been 3 days, and no one knows where it landed (except for the perps, of course).

Well, there's precious little ATC surveillance over Africa, and I'm pretty sure that Repo Man didn't bother to file a flight plan or get a clearance and transponder squawk code...

42 posted on 05/28/2003 10:54:04 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Nexus
Other than us, who do the terrorist hate the most? If it's not the repo man (most likely scenario), could it reach Israel?
43 posted on 05/28/2003 10:54:47 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Tree of Liberty
I see another entry in the FReeper lexicon.

You are right, this is hugh!

44 posted on 05/28/2003 10:59:45 AM PDT by Gamecock (TULIP? For the Bible told me so...)
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To: FairOpinion
Stolen by a aliens? Really, doesn't look good. Down somewhere.
45 posted on 05/28/2003 11:00:54 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: FairOpinion
Guy who owns the thing got tired of it sitting there for a year and sent some former Perot oilfield employees to get it home. You spread US or UK hard currency around in Angola and they could have worked on the thing for a week and brought in all the fuel they wanted without anyone "seeing" a thing. The white guy could have lead a team of ten and no one would say a word. Angolians tend to stay bought once paid.
46 posted on 05/28/2003 11:03:12 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: FairOpinion
A 727 in the Congo:


47 posted on 05/28/2003 11:05:39 AM PDT by Gamecock (TULIP? For the Bible told me so...)
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To: FairOpinion
Don't screw with the Repo Man...
48 posted on 05/28/2003 11:09:50 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: FairOpinion
Looks like the repo man didn't act entirely alone.


49 posted on 05/28/2003 11:13:19 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Labyrinthos
WOW...that was intense!
50 posted on 05/28/2003 12:01:49 PM PDT by Florida_Freeper
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