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Prosecutors want autopsy results unsealed
The Modesto Bee ^ | May 29 2003 | John Cote' and Garth Stapely

Posted on 05/30/2003 5:41:15 AM PDT by runningbear

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To: Spunky
I'm not clear what the deal is with this amendment, either. Per Geraldo, it is 10 pages long, with text, chart, and an appendix-and I believe he also said included pics (according to my notes that I wrote down yesterday!) Wasn't the initial autopsy report just one page?

At any rate, Geraldo also said the amendment part was just given to attorneys on Monday. The lateness of receiving it, was due to some 'error'; attorneys should have gotten it sooner than Monday apparantly.

51 posted on 05/30/2003 8:29:01 AM PDT by uvular
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To: allyoop77
From yesterday's thread.....I saw your "thank you". You're welcome.
52 posted on 05/30/2003 8:32:21 AM PDT by justshe
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To: uvular
" Wasn't the initial autopsy report just one page?"

I think I heard it was something like 27-28 pages.

53 posted on 05/30/2003 8:32:46 AM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Saw you on the other thread asking if the judge would unseal... Are you on RB's ping list?

"Superior Court Judge Al Girolami is scheduled to hear the motion June 6."

54 posted on 05/30/2003 8:33:33 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Thanks, Kim. I believe I am on one, but not the list at work.

But someone directed me here anyway. :-) I appreciate the thought.

55 posted on 05/30/2003 8:38:57 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Amore
the dark side" because previous crime threads have often gotten so acrimonious, smoky, dark, and unpleasant.

Well, we need to all work to make sure these don't get like that -- because the vast majority of us are here to talk about the crime and trial and the facts of the case, and we sure don't want to let a few disruptors cause these to end up in the SBR.

"the dark side" to those posters who look down on those of us who like to post on crime threads

Of course you're referring to the ones who drop by threads to say how stupid we are for being here. I've never quite understood what they get out of coming on threads they look down their noses at and pontificating. Evidently the concept of "clicking on by" is foreign to them. :-)

56 posted on 05/30/2003 8:42:07 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
"Dark side?"..

Hummm? The way most of us have interruped and used this expression relates to crime forum discussions.

Opposing sides call the others "The Dark Side".

A good example of this would be if someone on these particular threads were to change their mind and decide that Scott is being unfairly persecuted and didn't do it.

It would be said they crossed over to "the dark side"..

57 posted on 05/30/2003 8:45:40 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The only normal people are the ones we don't know)
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To: Howlin
I too, hope someone gets nailed for this cruel leak!

If you see or hear anything from Mr. Abrams today, would you kindly ping me? Will be checking in off and on; got lots of yard work to do before the rain starts back up this evening! I'm so excited to get things looking pretty, after one long, nasty winter!

58 posted on 05/30/2003 8:45:44 AM PDT by uvular (But, boy does my back ache; need some quality time with my hot tub!)
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To: runningbear; All
Autopsy Leak 'Devastates' Laci's Family

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/ap/ap_story.html/National/AP.V5467.AP-Laci-Peterson.html

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP)--The family of Laci Peterson on Friday denounced as ``incredibly insensitive'' the disclosure of sealed autopsy results indicating her unborn son had plastic tape wrapped around his neck and a significant cut across the shoulders.

A source close to the case who spoke on condition of anonymity confirmed information in the autopsy to The Associated Press on Thursday. The information was first reported by cable news channel MSNBC, which said it had received a portion of the autopsy report completed by the Contra Costa County coroner's office.

Prosecutors responded later in the day by saying the leaked information was misleading and asked that the results be unsealed.

``The information being leaked has clearly been skewed in favor of the defense,'' wrote Deputy Stanislaus County District Attorney David Harris. ``By releasing the autopsy reports the court will allow the media to see what the actual facts are and then accurate information may be reported to mitigate recent adverse publicity.''

Through their spokeswoman, Kim Petersen, Peterson's relatives said they learned the autopsy details from television, without warning.

``No family should ever have to learn the autopsy results of somebody they love on national TV, and that's exactly what happened,'' Petersen said Friday on NBC's ``Today'' show.

She said Sharon Rocha, Peterson's mother, was ``devastated.''

``She asked me to go out and convey the pain that was inflicted on their family. ... She just implores the media to be sensitive and remember that this isn't a story, this is their life,'' Petersen said.

The autopsy results had been sealed by court order after Stanislaus County prosecutors said releasing them would jeopardize Scott Peterson's right to a fair trial.

Only the prosecution and defense were given copies of the reports, and prosecutors said they had not shared results with police or Laci Peterson's family.

In a statement, District Attorney James Brazelton said ``evidence in this case should be presented in court through the testimony of witnesses and not selectively leaked to the news media by unknown persons whom the press will not identify.''

The Contra Costa County coroner's office did not comment on the report.

Part of the autopsy indicated the unborn baby boy had 1 1/2 loops of plastic tape around his neck, MSNBC said.

Scott Peterson, 30, of Modesto, is accused of killing his wife and unborn son, whom the couple had planned to name Conner, last Dec. 23 or 24 in their home. Laci, 27, was eight months pregnant at the time. The bodies washed ashore in San Francisco Bay last month.

Contra Costa County authorities concluded their autopsy report earlier this month, but did not disclose the cause of death.

It's possible the baby's body was cut shoulder to shoulder or became wrapped in the tape because of its long submersion in San Francisco Bay, the MSNBC report said, adding that the part of the coroner's report the network received ``doesn't prove anything one way or another.''

Mark Geragos, Peterson's defense attorney, would not comment on the report. He said Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami, during a closed meeting in his chambers Tuesday, ``more than telegraphed that he does not want us commenting on the case.''

Girolami had said he was considering a gag order to prevent news leaks.

Geragos has suggested that members of a satanic cult were the killers. He has also hinted that a female mystery witness could lead authorities to the real killer and free Scott Peterson.

59 posted on 05/30/2003 8:47:01 AM PDT by clouda
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To: uvular
I was just going to flip over there to see if he's on today.......LOL. I'll ping you if he says anything different.

I'll be in and out today as well; my husband's been gone all week, so today will be the "get it all back where it belongs before he gets home" day, if you get my drift.
60 posted on 05/30/2003 8:48:23 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: runningbear
Thanks very much, rb!
61 posted on 05/30/2003 8:49:01 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: uvular
I don't think the initial autopsy of either body would have been just one page. I've never seen one that didn't have at least several pages!
62 posted on 05/30/2003 8:49:08 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Howlin
It's like cleaning up after kids and dogs, isn't it-LoL!
63 posted on 05/30/2003 8:50:28 AM PDT by uvular (OK now I'm really goin' outside!)
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To: spectre
Opposing sides call the others "The Dark Side".

So there are TWO "Dark Sides," theirs and mine? :-)

64 posted on 05/30/2003 8:50:30 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: buffyt
The autopsy report leak is interesting. I highly question how it can be "skewed in favor of the defense." As I read the leaked info my first thought was, Scaughty is more evil than I thought.

Remember on Diane Sawyer he fumbled when talking about the baby and said something to the effect of "that was hard to take...is hard to take". (I'm sure someone out there has the actual quote). On a more stomach churning note, maybe Scaughty wanted to "see" what his son would look like before he offed him.

65 posted on 05/30/2003 8:50:53 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: uvular
Well, when he's not here, life gets kind of messy.....I tend to go into "FR mode."
66 posted on 05/30/2003 8:52:35 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: clouda
Just a gag order?

How about they find out WHO leaked it and make them go apologize to Sharon Rocha. And they hang them.
67 posted on 05/30/2003 8:56:40 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
"So there are TWO "Dark Sides," theirs and mine?" :-)

Exactly!

Like the Republicans and the Democrats..If a Republican crosses over OR takes up for a Democrat, we say he's gone over to "The Dark Side".

It's just a little insult :~)

sw

68 posted on 05/30/2003 8:58:28 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The only normal people are the ones we don't know)
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To: clouda
He has also hinted that a female mystery witness could lead authorities to the real killer and free Scott Peterson.

Yeah right, Mark. This is becoming so OJish it makes me have flashbacks.

I watched that entire trial and it surely didn't help my blood pressure. This is heading quickly down the same path, but sometimes I find Geragos actually more despicable than Johnny Cochran (if that's possible).

69 posted on 05/30/2003 8:58:53 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: WellsFargo94
I highly question how it can be "skewed in favor of the defense."

I think it was a total miscalculation on Geragos' part. Remember, the first words used were "noose," "cut," "stabbed."

I honestly believe they thought it would shore up their cult defense.

Unfortunately, as the day went on, the truth became clear, leaving Geragos (and Dan Abrams and MSNBC) with egg on their face -- the very 'egg' that Geragos had promised would be on the prosecutor's face just last week.

70 posted on 05/30/2003 8:59:42 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: clouda
Isn't it interesting that the only real sorrow being expressed is by the Rocha family over the loss of their daughter and grandson?
71 posted on 05/30/2003 9:00:36 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis; spectre; runningbear; redlipstick; clouda; uvular
Here comes Dan on MSNBC!
72 posted on 05/30/2003 9:01:26 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Agreed. Part of the way to do that is just to try and ignore certain posters, and hope they ignore you in return.
73 posted on 05/30/2003 9:01:38 AM PDT by Amore (La vita e una cagna . . .)
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To: Howlin
Eggsactally!
74 posted on 05/30/2003 9:03:16 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: Howlin
OMG.....Abrams is STILL going with the "noose" theory......and he has managed to find a forensic guy who says the baby might have been cut out!
75 posted on 05/30/2003 9:04:14 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: WellsFargo94
Well, now Cyril Wecht is on MSNBC, directly contradicting Abrams report. He thinks it is bay debris and that the baby was born after she was in the water.
76 posted on 05/30/2003 9:06:01 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Dan isn't real 'bright', is he!
77 posted on 05/30/2003 9:06:46 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Howlin
I'll put my money on Wecht.
78 posted on 05/30/2003 9:07:02 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: runningbear
Personally, I think the police and prosecutors were under such pressure to get this guy that maybe they didn't get their "ducks in a row" and now the defense is using this against them - like in the Simpson case.
79 posted on 05/30/2003 9:07:23 AM PDT by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: Howlin
Yeah, but GERALDO is doing the "Tea For Two" cha,cha,cha and just said on FNC that the person who leaked yesterdays report was "FRIENDLY to the Defense".

Geraldo is backing away from "The Dark Side" and sounds like he is becoming sympathic to the Prosecution..again.

Watch out, Abrams..:~)

sw

80 posted on 05/30/2003 9:10:24 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The only normal people are the ones we don't know)
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To: justshe
I don't think they hired him for his brains!

Honestly, I watched this mess on TV all afternoon yesterday, and the only person I saw express any sorrow or sympathy for Laci's family was Gloria Allred.
81 posted on 05/30/2003 9:12:26 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: Amore
Yep. It's not that hard if they're not adding anything anyway........LOL.
82 posted on 05/30/2003 9:17:59 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: realpatriot71
And just like the Simpson case, it's all BS.
83 posted on 05/30/2003 9:18:56 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Hi South!

I will bet on Wecht along side you, as I see nothing in these leaks that point to innocence or guilt. I see bay debris and boat propeller (sp?) injuries on the infant.
84 posted on 05/30/2003 9:19:14 AM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS (custom made smarmy, sanctimonious taglines created while you wait!!)
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To: Howlin; justshe; uvular; Amore; All
And here's some more BS:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920351/posts
85 posted on 05/30/2003 9:26:43 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
I see bay debris and boat propeller (sp?) injuries on the infant.

Hi there, CAPPS. I agree. It 's nothing so mysterious or telling; just a consequence of where the body was.

I just shudder to think of the poor Rochas having to hear all this.

86 posted on 05/30/2003 9:26:59 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Amore; Howlin
~~~Part of the way to do that is just to try and ignore certain posters, and hope they ignore you in return. ~~~

With the number of people threatening to hit abuse if you post to them (while they talk about your posts on the thread), I guess one needs to start a 'scorecard' just to keep track.....lol!

I'm doing my best to soothe any hurt feelings---and "go along to get along".....but I'm not seeing even THAT helps. Seems once you find yourself in the 'dark side' category....there is NO getting out of it with certain folks.

I enjoy the sharing and information on these threads, so here's hoping the 'dark side' is not what I'm thinking it is.


87 posted on 05/30/2003 9:27:55 AM PDT by justshe
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To: redlipstick
I REALLY don't like Allred. But so far.....she has been OK on this case. She DOES get it. And yes.....she does express sorrow for the Rochas.
88 posted on 05/30/2003 9:29:53 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I just shudder to think of the poor Rochas having to hear all this.

Unfortunately, they will have to get used to it (as used to it as they can) as the media frenzy is nothing when compared to the hard, brutal facts of a criminal trial. I would not trade places with them for all the tea in China. I only hope that the grace of God can sustain them through this nightmare.

89 posted on 05/30/2003 9:34:12 AM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS (custom made smarmy, sanctimonious taglines created while you wait!!)
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To: justshe
Amore was just teasing me about the "dark side" because I was so determined not to get embroiled in another FR true-crime maelstrom.
Despite my intentions, here I am!

But I'm definitely on the side of the angels.

90 posted on 05/30/2003 9:36:13 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: justshe; redlipstick
I REALLY don't like Allred

And here we sit, on the same side with Gloria, Wendy Murphy, and Jeffrey Feiger.

91 posted on 05/30/2003 9:39:04 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
And just like the Simpson case, it's all BS.

Perhaps, but all you need to do is create doubt. If I had sat on the Simpson jury I wouldn't have convicted him. The cops had their hearts in the right place when they tampered with the evidence, but it open that big door known as "shadow of a doubt". If the cops and prosecutors follow the laws of the land and the proper procedures, you don't run into problems like this. If Peterson get's off they'll have no one but themselevs to blame.

92 posted on 05/30/2003 9:40:06 AM PDT by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: Howlin
Who would a thunk...lol! Never in MY wildest dreams.
93 posted on 05/30/2003 9:42:30 AM PDT by melodie
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To: melodie; Howlin
Me either!
94 posted on 05/30/2003 9:44:13 AM PDT by Amore (La vita e una cagna . . .)
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To: clouda
I don't know about the rest of you but Geragos's behaviour SHOULD backfire on him bigtime. He's a bottom feeder and a slimy louse along with the Trash he's attempting to set free. I pray that the Public are more intelligent than to buy into this REDICULOUS satanic ritual theory. When have you EVER seen a satanic cult who killed someone, go to such pains to hide the evidence??? Never. They kill and drain the blood and then leave the evidence wherever. They are not the least concerned with going to the trouble to weight it down and throw it in San Franscisco Bay.!! I despise that scumbag. Don't like him either!!!!!! NOR do I have ANY respect whatsoever for ANY member of the Peterson cABAL
95 posted on 05/30/2003 9:44:41 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Howlin
And here we sit, on the same side with Gloria, Wendy Murphy, and Jeffrey Feiger.

I do keep pinching myself to see if I'm not dreaming. It feels so very strange.

I'm most surprised by the apparent logic and realism of Fieger. Can this be the same man that became famous with Kevorkian? Will wonders ever cease?

96 posted on 05/30/2003 9:47:08 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Howlin
I just listened to Wendy Murphy on CNN and she said the Judge will likely issue a gag order and she said there may even be "sanctions" issued for this little event. How many people on here think Geragos is as big a liar as Peterson??
97 posted on 05/30/2003 9:47:17 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: runningbear; All
Hey everybody.......have you seen THIS???

He said the tape on Laci's body and a CEMENT BAG that was found washed up on the shore near the baby could be important evidence

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/GoodMorningAmerica/peterson_autopsy030530.html
98 posted on 05/30/2003 9:48:57 AM PDT by Velveeta (disclaimer..........CEMENT BAG in caps is my own emphasis)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I heard Fuhrman interviewed yesterday. He said he had never known ONE person who was a member of satanic cult...nor ever worked on ANY case involving a satanic cult. He also said he didn't know one cop---in all his years in law enforcement---who had either.

Whereas Geragos attempts to make this 'cult' sound almost part of the ordinary 'landscape'......Fuhrman makes it sound rarer than an icecube in the Sahara, and just about as far-fetched.
99 posted on 05/30/2003 9:50:46 AM PDT by justshe
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To: Canadian Outrage
I don't know about the rest of you but Geragos's behaviour SHOULD backfire on him bigtime.

In a just world, Dan Abrams would have been shunned after his performance yesterday.

In a just world, Mark Geragos would be struck by lightning when he makes his ridiculous statements in front of those microphones.

I'm convinced that is what has all of us so hooked -- the fact that they are making a mockery of the judicial system right in front of our very eyes -- and we just cannot look away.

100 posted on 05/30/2003 9:51:25 AM PDT by Howlin
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