Making Children "Wards of the State"

Arkansas Publik Skulz ^ | 30 May 2003 | Margaret Brogley

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MAKING CHILDREN WARDS OF THE STATE
Date: Friday, May 30 @ 06:09:27
Topic Letters to Editor

THREE- AND FOUR-YEAR OLD KINDERGARTEN: MAKING CHILDREN WARDS OF THE STATE
Margaret Brogley
5/30/03

Dear Editor:

Has your state or community begun promoting the enrollment of three- and four-year-old children? The Van Buren/Fort Smith area has -- big time. Our daily newspaper, the Southwest Times Record, 5/19/03, had a huge article about it and was so convincing that I wanted to rush right down to enroll the three- and four-year-olds that I don¹t have for fear I would miss a good thing!

The title of the propaganda was: "Pre-kindergartens Help Prepare Children for Success" and subtitled "Many States Showing Interest in Funding Programs." It states that scientists, advocates for children, and policy makers are arguing for more classrooms that develop three- and four-year-old preschool mentally, emotionally, and socially. They argue on the basis of recent brain research studies. It also says forty states offer some of state supported pre-kindergarten, often for low-income families and that all states mandate services for those children with disabilities.

The proponents say that no state offers universal preschool for three-year-olds but the idea has received a lot of attention even when the budget is tight. A report from the Committee for Economic Development in New York says part-day, part-school year preschool costs $4,000-$5,000 per child per year.

Every four-year-old has been eligible in Georgia since 1995 for free, voluntary pre-kindergarten. The program began in 1992 as a limited program. In 1995 the Governor pushed legislation to include all four-year-olds.

The Pew Charitable Trust and the Trust for Early Childhood Education established the National Institute for Early Education Research as part of an effort to encourage the program.

MY COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE:
What you have just read is nothing but a continuation to make the child a ward of the state. The idea is not new by any means: just kept secret from most people. In 1931 my American History teacher told the class that there was such a plan afoot. I thought he was jesting, but I have lived long enough to see it happening. My teacher at that time was a recent graduate from Columbia University¹s Teachers College where John Dewey was teaching; therefore, I assume that he heard it from the horse's mouth.

Note that the parents are not pushing this idea, but the questionable Pew Charitable Trust is, along with the Trust for Early Childhood Education. The sooner the child is separated from the parents the easier it will be to turn him over to the state.

Since the Georgia Education Department was so successful with its pilot program, a conference for Early Childhood Education was held in Atlanta. I attended. The U.S. Secretary of Education Richard Riley was guest speaker as well as four from other countries. The thrust of the entire conference was to enroll the child from birth. We were even shown a video of a nine-month-old baby reading. However, it was obvious that the baby was Pavlovian trained. Don¹t be surprised if you are shown a similar video in the future.

We learn from New York that the cost is $4,000-$5.000 per year per child. The promoters want the program to be free for the parents, but it won¹t be free for taxpayers who will have to dig further into their pocketbooks at a time when all states are struggling with their budgets. This is idiocy!

Question: How could our Forefathers become so successful when there were no preschools for them to attend? Yet they gave us the most wonderful document devised by man!

The educrats admit the school system is a failure. As a result, they are continuing to reform it to fool us. Instead of getting to the root of the problem, which is progressive education, they plan to add the preschoolers to the problem and to churn out more socialists.

Stay tuned: more to come.

Update on Child Care in the Public Schools: 100 Points of View from the Child Care Exchange

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[liberty or death]

Homeschooling, our local socialist's hate it :))

[aardvark1]

A report from the Committee for Economic Development in New York says part-day, part-school year preschool costs $4,000-$5,000 per child per year. Every four-year-old has been eligible in Georgia since 1995 for free, voluntary pre-kindergarten.

True double-speak!!!!! Free for only $5000.

[steplock]

Margaret Brogley PING!

[LiteKeeper]

Sociology SITREP

[Dr. Eckleburg]

In California Rob (Meathead) Reiner is pushing this as a stepping stone to run for office.

It's not enough they have our kids all day long for 20 years. Now they want them as toddlers.

"Prepares them for kindergarten." Idiots. That's what kindergarten is for -- to prepare them for first grade.

The socialists won't stop until they own them from day one.

[moyden2000]

Liberals are evil.

[netmilsmom]

I was told by my daughter's principle that my younger gifted daughter could not skip kindergarten but could skip 1st grade, because kindergarten is sooooo important.
BULL.
This child knows everything her sister has been presented in kindergarten (the older one knew it all anyway) and will have done two years in preschool. I am truly stuck here. Homeschooling is looking better and better.
Give me back my tax money and let me choose how my children are educated. Nothing is free.

[billhilly]

Yesterday, thanks to your post, I bookmarked the link to the source of this letter, and read it this morning.

While reading about this remarkable woman all I could think of was another woman, probably a decade older, who taught me, all of my brothers, and my sister. She taught seventh and eighth grade, and served as principal of a little four room, grades one through eight, school in far Western Kentucky.

Mrs. Zuanita Phelps (R.I.P.) left an indelible impression on each and every student, and their parents. In those days there was hardly a mention of money. There was none, but the teachers were dedicated and resourceful. I'll give one example. In eighth grade, Mrs. Zuanita made a large print, the size of a shoebox, of the word "ain't". She chose me to go out in the schoolyard and dig a hole large enough to bury a shoe box.

When I returned to the classroom she announced to the class that we were all going out to the schoolyard for a funeral. With much seriousness, she conducted a funeral for "ain't" and had us bury it in the shoe box. She then solemnly announced that "ain't" was dead and buried and that we were not to use it anymore. It worked. I'll never forget that lesson that occurred sometime around 1949.

[ladylib]

In Washington, DC, the city council tried to make preschool mandatory for children as young as 2 1/2.

Cooler heads prevailed.

[jimtorr]

"Prepares them for kindergarten." Idiots. That's what kindergarten is for -- to prepare them for first grade.

The socialists own studies, done 50 years ago, prove that pre-school and kindergarten are useless for the purpose of preparing children for school. They proved conclusivly that by the second grade there was no difference whatsoever in student learning between a child who attended kindergarten and a child who did not.

Six-year olds learn so quickly that kindergarten is useless for preparing a child for school.

The only purpose of any kind of government school before first grade that I can see, is for indoctrination purposes. They sell it to parents as child care.

[DakotaGator]

The sooner the child is separated from the parents the easier it will be to turn him over to the state.

That's exactly correct!

The "State is All" crowd does not believe in in the sovereignty of man. They believe that man is the property of the state.

Who are these people? They are communists, fascists, liberals, Democrats, National Education Association, etc. They are all the same. They only believe in power for themselves.

Their prefered way to power is "the children". They want to seize and indoctrinate "the children" to their way of thinking. And they do this through the school system.

This crowd of traitorous scum will always try to take your children. Their goals are; nurseries as part of the school system, transportation of the children to/from schools, school hours effectively from 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM, year-around school, all meals provided by the school, medical procedures controlled by the school, curriculum controlled by the school (not the local citizens), youth activities controlled by the school.

When you see "school" think "state". Because that's what it is. The state is stealing your children. Parents' role in this sick scheme is merely to produce children, give them to the state, and fork over lots of money so the state can raise them as it sees fit.

If we don't get the state out of the schools soon, we might as well all be part of "The Matrix"

[Dr. Eckleburg]

(I'm pinging Qwerty and C.P. because they don't believe the negative press public education is deservedly getting and have accused me of fabricating our educational horror stories. I wish.)

When our younger son was in elementary school, only a few years ago, we asked the principal why the school wasn't teaching the multiplication tables (reinforcing them for our son since he knew them when he was five).

The principal's answer to us was "children don't need to learn the multiplication tables because when they're at the grocery store they will have use of a calculator."

We sat stunned.

Being an ex-newspaper reporter, I asked if I could quote him on that and he said "certainly; this is what the state has mandated."

This elementary school is in an upper-middle class, multi-ethnic district with influential, liberal parents who think the state can do no wrong.

Their kids, now in high school, still can't multiply. And they've misplaced their calculators along with the keys to their Firebird and their Sports Club I.D.

My advice to parents embarking on the public school system is to know that you will need to be a vigilant watchdog; do not take "no" for an answer.

Polite, unambiguous persistence is everything. Good luck.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Yep. Indoctrination and child care.

And it allows the mothers to keep working for the almighty buck, leaving their kids in the hands of strangers.

It makes for a more pliable voting block 15 years down the road.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Pinging to one who knows.

[netmilsmom]

I can give a good one and my daughter is in a charter school. My older daughter is bright. She tested 2nd grade 4th month in math the second month of kindergarten and is the youngest in the class. Her classroom is chaos. Out of 19 kids 9 of them are behavior problems or need special attention (one has CP and one has neurological problems that her parents are working to diagnose). The teacher has a high tollerance for noice and disruption. She punishes the good kids and rewards the bad when they do well.

Well, my daughter (bored with the cut, color & paste of every assignment) started becoming a behavior problem and stashing her papers in her desk so she could go to "free time". She even stated that when she and another child (a bad one) were caught doing something, she had her card turned (punishment) and the other child did not.

I went to a conference with the teacher and explained that I have tried both punishment and reward with this child at home and nothing seemed to work. What can we do together?
The teacher says that my daughter has ADD.
I had worked for a psychiatrist at one time and had him evaluate my daughter, no ADD. She is bored.
Now the teacher just knows that she is right and will not go past the idea that she can't help my daughter because she has ADD.
To boot, I asked this teacher to hold my daughter accountable and not let her go to free time unless her work is finished. Last Friday I found eight papers in my daughter's desk. Oh that worked.
Only 10 more days of this.......

[netmilsmom]

Could you please give me a reference to that study?
I'm fighting a principal about it.

[ladylib]

I remember Pres. Clinton talking about turning public schools into 24-hour-a-day medical facilities, recreational facilities, and social service facilities. Everything in the community would revolve around the public schools, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

I'm sure Hillary is behind this early childhood education plan also. She is big on the government sticking its nose into every aspect of human life, from cradle to grave.

It didn't work in Russia. Why does she thinks it going to work here?

[martianagent]

placemarker

[ladylib]

Some parents realize that progressive education is all wrong for their children:

http://www.novaclassical.org/

[DakotaGator]

I'm sure Hillary is behind this early childhood education plan also. She is big on the government sticking its nose into every aspect of human life, from cradle to grave.

Precisely. Hillary is a rabid Marxist. She's had her taste of power and wants it all. As with all Totalitarians, she wants "the children".

When the state wants your children, freedom is vanishing. When it takes them, freedom is gone.

[Hila]

Indeed, their idea of pre-kindergarten is purely for indoctrination purposes. Anything the public school systems advocate is going to be geared to numbing the minds and removing the child from parental influence. A robust NO to all their mental abuse tactics.

[nosofar]

It's not enough they have our kids all day long for 20 years. Now they want them as toddlers.

This has been a common strategy throughout history. Get them while their young to more thoroughly brainwash them.

[henderson field]

"The Pew Charitable Trust"? Is that a communist front organization? Does anyone know? Who is behind it?

[pgyanke]

Book Title on Subject:

"School Can Wait" by Raymond and Dorothy Moore

[uncbuck]

Keep the kids under the control of the NEA at a younger age?

Why didn't I think of that before?

The NEA was trying to get the School District to enforce truancy laws on those parents who are home-schooling.

Bastrds

[mvpel]

Pull your precious child out of that zoo before they call child welfare on you and force her onto Ritalin. Do it TODAY.

[netmilsmom]

http://www.pewtrusts.com/
I know they give to PBS kids shows.

[netmilsmom]

The problem is that this is the best you get around here. My district school is far worse, the Christian schools have long waiting lists. I want to homeschool but I need to go back to work when the younger one gets into school (although at this point, I'm looking into delivering pizzas on the weekends to do it)
At the moment, the school cannot force Ritalin as long as I have that evaluation from my ex-boss. Thank you God, I got it as soon as the teacher put up that red flag. My angel has only nine days left, one being graduation and one being the field day. I am pushing for a stricter teacher for next year (secret word-organized) and running into problems with that. We are looking into other options.
And the real funny thing is, I volunteered in the class on Wednesdays. I have better control of her class than she does.

[freemama]

For those of you with children in public schools, contact the nearest parochial school today and ask if they will work with you make it possible for your child to attend their school. Many are willing to cut deals on tuition and can help you find transportation if you need it to get junior there. It will be worth every dime you have to scrape together years in the future when your child actually knows the basics of thinking and morality.

My three are in a Lutheran school that is fantastic. You have to put forth some extra effort to find these schools, but it's worth it.

[mvpel]

If delivering pizzas on the weekends is what it takes... Friends of ours are fortunate enough to have flexible work schedules so they can "tag-team" the teaching responsibilities.

When our kid (yet to be adopted) gets to school age, we'll probably wind up moving somewhere less expensive to be able to swing homeschooling.

[netmilsmom]

http://www.caliva.org/
This is the website for CA virtual university.
If you are just looking for a cheaper place to live, Ohio and PA have the same K12 education as a charter.

I was truly considering using my nephew's address in Ohio to get my kids on the program.
What's with people from MI moving to CA? I have two in-laws that did it too.

[Lady Eileen]

bump

[mvpel]

I moved out during the tech boom and doubled my salary, and then watched nearly half a million in stock equity swirl down the deflating bubble's toilet.

At least I still have a job, which is certainly a blessing.

[netmilsmom]

My daughter is on the waiting lists.

[netmilsmom]

That's where my hubby is as well. He chose to stay in a stable job here in MI and we are just glad we have a job. His brother tried to talk him into a CA move. I said no and I am soooo glad!

[don-o]

When our kid (yet to be adopted) gets to school age, we'll probably wind up moving somewhere less expensive to be able to swing homeschooling.

That's great!!!

Not just for your family, but for all if us Home schoolers are the last hope for the restoration of our Republic.

Asbestos undies "on."

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A New Case for Abandoning Government Schools
Steven Yates
E. Ray Moore, Jr., Let My Children Go (Columbia, S.C.: Gilead Media, 2002)

"...Then state-sponsored education was imported from Europe – specifically, PRUSSIA – with the first true state-sponsored schools set up in Massachusetts by Horace Mann and the Unitarians in the 1840s. Mann and his colleagues set down three principles: (1) compulsory attendance; (2) teacher certification from a state teachers college – showing that teachers have been taught what to teach; (3) ownership and administration of schools by the state. Rev. Moore notes how 19th century theologians such as R.L. Dabney warned against the new system. But almost no one sensed danger..."

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Are we teaching American Citizens or training Prussian Serfs?
NPRI
from a speech by Senator Ann O'Connell (R-Las Vegas)
adapted by Diane Alden

"...A strategy was devised in which the Prussian government would set up a forced government educational system which would turn out well disciplined students who would follow orders without questioning authority. To accomplish this feat, the goal of educating children became a national priority permeated with strategies adapted to turn out a national work force rather then an educated citizenry. Every step in the education process was calculated to offer authority figures the least amount of trouble and consequently train a well disciplined albeit docile citizen..."

Arkansas Publik Skulz

[steplock]

Goals2000 ... Project2061 ... et al

While I was researching the background information to design this web site last year, I kept coming across the name F. JAMES RUTHERFORD on many Official Government and Teacher web sites when the topic was teaching math and sciences to our children.

F. James Rutherford is Chief Education Officer of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and Director of Project 2061: Education for a Changing Future.

Educators and publishers have been scurrying about for much of the 1990s trying to translate into practice reform slogans such as ‘less is more’...

Mr Rutherford believes that:

"High school textbooks list 120 different technical words about the cell that students are often required to memorize." Rutherford says that "We found 11 of the words were sufficient."

With "Education" with that attititude, where will the USA be in 10 years? Right where Clinton & Carter have promised? At the bottom of the world? References are posted with this article.

[steplock]

Not RUSSIA -- PRUSSIA!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/920244/posts?page=38#38

[steplock]

WHO is PEW? Here is a picture of those directly connected with the "Pew Charitable Trust"

http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06/14235?_PEW_CHARITABLE_TRUSTS

Tom Wathen is at the center of this web. ( hint: look up the names on GOOGLE )

[steplock]

Here's the picture that is supposed to be on the previous link (just in case -restricted site)

[A. Pole]

What you have just read is nothing but a continuation to make the child a ward of the state.

Bump

[don-o]

That is an awsome site.

I salute your talent. Bookmarked.

But, I guess I need to break down and buy the bigger monitor that my failing eyesight now requires.

[ladylib]

Russia also had a system where the mothers worked, or stood on line for hours for some rotten cabbage, and the kids were swept up and put into indoctrination centers for most of the day.

I realize that the Prussian model was used to introduce public schools to this country.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

A major YEEESH bump.

[Leisler]

[Don Corleone]

The Japanese also proved that this EARLY schooling was detrimental to the kids mental health. They were becoming wackos since they were deprived of a normal babyhood and thrust into competetive "learning" situations well before they were able to adapt to it. In short...they needed mommy and daddy not some goofball "Educator"

[A. Pole]

The Japanese also proved that this EARLY schooling was detrimental to the kids mental health.

This what slowly dawned on Soviets. Interesting difference between Bolsheviks and Western statists is that the first started with the rapid implementation of utopian ideas and then withdrew step by step over the decades. Western "engineers of human souls" try the opposite tactic - they "remake" human nature slowly like proverbial frog in heated water.

Of course they will fail as well, but their fall might be more disastrous.

[Walnut]

I know what you mean. Am I wrong , I thought being a child is the best time of your life. You can do all the "kid" stuff and have no worries for a couple of years. My grandson is so smart, funny, easy going, loving. ect I could go on all night. I'm dreading the day he "has" to start school. never mind getting him ready that early. Its going to ruin him as it is. Hes soo sweet. Now I want him to stay that way. I can't say it enough.