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Ten Books Every Student Should Read in College
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | Week of June 2, 2003 | 28 distinguished scholars and university professors

Posted on 05/30/2003 11:45:30 AM PDT by Remedy

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To: Remedy
A couple more .....

War, Politics and Power : Von Clauswitz
The Art of War: Sun Tzu
The Prince : Nicolo Machiavelli

Applies to business and war as well as politics.

181 posted on 05/30/2003 4:21:36 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Good additions.

I would add the following for the following reasons:

"Slouching Towards Gomorrah" - Robert Bork

It addresses liberalism and conservatism in contexts of modern society. Bork outlines the rationalism behind the application of conservative principles in a manner that expanding minds should embrace. Unlike liberal tomes that tell their readers what to think, Bork encourages his readers to think for themselves.

"Communist Manifesto" - Marx / Engles

"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."

- Ronald Reagan

182 posted on 05/30/2003 4:26:23 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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POST #180 LINK FIX

The Letters of Thomas Jefferson: BONAPARTE AND PLATO To John Adams Monticello, July 5, 1814

183 posted on 05/30/2003 4:26:38 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Mad Dawgg
1. I want it "Fast"

2. I want it "Cheap"

3. I want it "Right"

Your response please.

Pick two.

184 posted on 05/30/2003 4:27:38 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: B.Bumbleberry
I have to say I find Hayek tough to read sometimes. He's from another era but his thoughts are so true.
185 posted on 05/30/2003 4:30:57 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Remedy
Give old Plato credit for trying. I am coming to doubt there was an actual person, that Plato was just some tracts written by students at the Academy. Kind of like Carlos Castaneda.
186 posted on 05/30/2003 4:34:12 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: Centurion2000

The Art of War: Sun Tzu

At least to have some understanding of:

China's Air-Power Puzzle

187 posted on 05/30/2003 4:34:54 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Should be read well before college, but Darkness at Noon conveyed the madness of collectivism to me in a way political theory texts could not. It was the talisman that shielded my developing mind from history's bad ideas, and for that, it holds a special place in my heart.
188 posted on 05/30/2003 4:38:51 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: RightWhale

Give old Plato credit for trying. I am coming to doubt there was an actual person, that Plato was just some tracts written by students at the Academy. Kind of like Carlos Castaneda.

an enigma wrapped in a paradox, embedded in a quandary, concieved by group-think…?

189 posted on 05/30/2003 4:41:12 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Unintended Consequences by John Ross should be required reading.
190 posted on 05/30/2003 4:44:18 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Remedy
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191 posted on 05/30/2003 4:44:44 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Remedy
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192 posted on 05/30/2003 4:46:13 PM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: Remedy
Pedophilia 101 at Cornell Students at Cornell University are used to courses like "Spike Lee Films," "Concepts of Race and Racism," "Whose Families? Whose Values?," "Domestic Television," "Music and Queer Identity," and "Introduction to Sexual Minorities."

My son goes to Cornell now. There are lots of things not to like, as far as I am concerned, but your post paints a very distorted picture.

Maybe they gave a course like this. I know I laughed at some of the courses given this spring as I looked over the catalogue for classes to sit in on during my three day visit. But this is 2% of the stuff they offer. There were probably 50 courses that interested me. I probably had 20 classes offered to me. (Reasons of the other 30 not being offered mostly had to do with my not asking, tests being given, or classes not meeting when I was going to be there.) I prepared for a dozen or so, and actually sat in on ten. At least four that I recall discussed one of the books on this top-ten list for all or part of the class.

The only class I sat in on that might make an article like the one you quote was called "Popular Culture," or something like that. (And I only sat in on this class because I had an open hour on my final day, and the group of students I had dinner with two nights before had recommended it.) It turned out that this class had one of the most conservative messages of any I took. Basically it was, "Don't trust Peter Jennings."

ML/NJ

193 posted on 05/30/2003 4:49:35 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Remedy
concieved by group-think…?

Yes. Could be.

194 posted on 05/30/2003 4:49:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: ml/nj

My son goes to Cornell now. There are lots of things not to like, as far as I am concerned, but your post paints a very distorted picture.

Apparently they have cleaned up their act since the Oct, 1998 article was written by Accuracy In Academia.


On September 17, President Bush delivered a speech on Teaching American History and Civic Education in which he cited recent reports showing "large and disturbing gaps" in American students' knowledge of history. Links to these surveys are provided by NEH on a web page entitled Evidence of American Amnesia, part of the official web site for the White House's "We the People" initiative to be administered by NEH.

Following are some of the surveys cited on the NEH site:

(September, 2002), a report released by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni which "found that none of the nation's top 50 colleges and universities require students to study American history and only 10% require students to study history at all". The report was authored by Ann Neal and Jerry Martin. Restoring America's Legacy .

In 2000, Neal and Martin authored the ACTA report, "Losing America's Memory: Historical Illiteracy in the 21st Century" which provided part of the impetus for Congress' creation of the $150 million Teaching American History program within the Department of Education.
American's Knowledge of the U.S. Constitution (May, 2002), a nationwide survey commissioned by Columbia Law School which "revealed that an alarming number of voting age Americans have serious misconceptions about the Constitution and Bill of Rights".

2001 U.S. History National Assessment of Education Progress a report compiled by the U.S. Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics, which found that 57% of 12th Graders scored "below basic" levels, and that more students performed "below basic" on the history test than any other NAEP subject, including math and science.
 

...in 2000, ACTA released its eye-opening report, Losing America's Memory: Historical Illiteracy in the 21st Century, Authors: Jerry L. Martin, Ph.D., President, ACTA Anne D. Neal, V.P. & General Counsel, ACTA
A stunning report revealing 81% of seniors from the top 55 U.S. colleges and universities failed a high school level history exam; even worse, that none of the institutions surveyed requires a course in American history, and three-quarters require no history at all. The report inspired Congress to pass a joint resolution calling for a national response and the Education Leadership Council to adopt a resolution to address America's historical amnesia. Over 800 news stories reported on the study.


195 posted on 05/30/2003 5:08:18 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Ichneumon
Sigh -- sometimes I think I'm about the only person who recognizes that the characters in Atlas Shrugged as as they are because the book is an *allegory*.

Rand tried to write an allegory; she ended up writing a sermon.

Compare Atlas Shrugged to Moby Dick which is also an allegory and Rands writing deficiency is pronounced.

196 posted on 05/30/2003 5:13:14 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: Ichneumon
the book is an *allegory*.

I always though of it as an ironic satire.

197 posted on 05/30/2003 5:22:00 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: tuna_battle_slight_return
, I just HATE reading

Go to the library and take out The Call of The Wild by Jack London. It's a short story (about 70 pages). Give it a shot, I'll bet you will enjoy it.

198 posted on 05/30/2003 5:22:48 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: Remedy
Quite an interesting thread.

My daughter is finishing her sophomore year in homeschool, and has read all but 4 of the books. She has not read "The Federalist Papers", "Democracy in America", "The Politics", and "Reflections on the Revolution in France."

She has been receiving a classical education since 8th grade. She is thinking about a degree in Great Books. She would like to teach at the college level. Needless to say, she also writes; she has a job writing for a horse magazine.

My son is in a debate club, and debated the resolution, RESOLVED: The United States should significantly change its trade poicy within one or both of the following areas, the Middle East and/or Africa. He debated both affirmative and negative positions in every tournament. This was his first year, starting when he was 13 yo. In one tournament, he and his same age partner went 3-3. We were quite pleased. It is a national Christian homeschool speech and debate league. The competitors are quite impressive! Everyone should hear these students, aged 12-18, to see what children of this age group are capable of doing.

Children in this age group are able to learn government, trade, and foreign policy, economics, and the skills to debate. For the most part, America has forgotten what can be achieved by their children. Too many parents have very limited expectations, and have given up the job of parenting.

199 posted on 05/30/2003 5:22:49 PM PDT by Constitution1st
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To: Remedy
I just took a look at the list of scholars/judges, and noticed Brad Birzer of Hillsdale College. EXCELLENT college, that does not tell you what to think, but rather teaches you how to think. We had a tournament there this year, and we were very impressed. Our daughter hopes to attend Hillsdale when she goes to college.
200 posted on 05/30/2003 5:30:24 PM PDT by Constitution1st
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