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Not much gunfire behind the political smoke
Fort Worth Star-Telegram | May 30, 2003 | Jill "J.R." Labbe

Posted on 05/30/2003 8:15:36 PM PDT by tarawa

Fort Worth Star-Telegram

May 30, 2003, Friday

SECTION: COMMENTARY

KR-ACC-NO: K2153

LENGTH: 837 words

HEADLINE: Not much gunfire behind the political smoke

BYLINE: By J.R. Labbe

BODY: Of all the issues that should draw the attention of American politicians, it's astounding how much air is being wasted on debating _ once again _ the federal assault weapons ban.

But then, issues that evoke emotional rather than intellectual responses always bubble to the top when election time rolls around. And don't kid yourselves; we're deep into Campaign 2004.

Apparently the incumbents and the editorial writers who championed the ban in 1994 didn't learn much about the topic during the intervening years. They still can't get the terminology right.

The ban didn't outlaw high-capacity "clips." Clips are for paper and little girls' hair. It's a magazine.

Hair-splitting, you say? Not if you're trying to sound credible. Is it too much to ask that opinion shapers and lawmakers know the fundamentals of an issue that they intend to exploit?

Guess so, but then again, facts didn't get in the way of the ban's approval.

Fact: The 1994 "assault weapons" ban was about symbolism and cosmetics, not crime.

The guns covered by the Clinton-era ban, which sunsets in September 2004 if Congress doesn't vote to extend it, are semiautomatic handguns, rifles and shotguns. Some of them are made to resemble military-style small arms but are mechanically indistinguishable from traditional sporting rifles.

As much as gun-control advocates will proclaim the awful lethality of these firearms, the reality is that they work just like many of the guns that are considered acceptable.

Fact: "Assault weapons" aren't the guns of choice for America's criminals.

Even the feds acknowledge that. A 1996 National Institute of Justice report on the impact of the ban said that "the banned weapons and magazines were rarely used to commit murders in this country. ...

"Although the weapons banned by this legislation were used only rarely in gun crimes before the ban, supporters felt that the weapons posed a threat to public safety because they are capable of firing many shots rapidly."

Fact: The "assault weapons" ban represents the beginning of the end for private gun ownership. And no, that isn't over-reaction from a self-proclaimed gun rights advocate. U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein acknowledged as much during a Feb. 5, 1995, "60 Minutes" interview:

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them ... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in,' I would have done it," said the California Democrat. "I could not do that. The votes weren't there."

Did she talk about carve-outs for sporting guns or that .38 revolver you keep in the night stand for personal protection? No.

Question: Would Feinstein have turned in her own handgun had she been successful in '94? She, after all, is one of the chosen few in the Golden State who actually has a carry permit. Or is she, in reality, just like Mr. and Mrs. America, who'll turn in their guns the day that all the bad guys hand over theirs?

Hypocrisy, thy name is Feinstein.

According to a recent editorial in the Los Angeles Times _ which used the term "clip" instead of "magazine" _ the "quiet majority who worry about their families' safety" support extending the ban. The implication was that those of us who believe in a citizen's right to gun ownership don't worry about our family's safety.

Hmmm. One of the reasons Mr. and Mrs. America own firearms is personal safety _ and they "don't" worry. Guess they're right.

The old need-vs.-want argument always surfaces in this debate, as it did from a Fort Worth Star-Telegram letter-to-the-editor writer who said he supports extending the ban. "There's absolutely no reason that anyone needs an M-16 or an AK-47," he wrote.

And first-graders don't need ice cream and soccer moms don't need Ford Excursions.

Want is a whole other issue.

And what the gun banners want is to make a legal product illegal so the question of what gun rights folks want becomes moot.

"These guns are not for duck hunting; they are weapons of outlaw terror." The L.A. Times again.

Talk about your hyperbole. But then, the writer probably doesn't understand that, regardless of how one parses the phrase about "a well-regulated militia," the Second Amendment is about the fundamental right of self-defense and not duck hunting.

Extend the ban, don't extend the ban. Frankly, other issues are more crucial to this nation's prosperity and safety.

But the gun grabbers may want to keep this in mind: After the ban went into effect in 1994, the American Shooting Sports Council presented President Clinton, in absentia, with its Firearms Salesman of the Year Award.

Gun sales _ and NRA memberships _ skyrocketed.

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ABOUT THE WRITER

Jill "J.R." Labbe is a senior editorial writer and columnist for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Readers may write to her at 400 W. 7th Street, Fort Worth, Texas 76102, or via e-mail at jrlabbe@star-telegram.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
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1 posted on 05/30/2003 8:15:36 PM PDT by tarawa
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To: Joe Brower; basil; TheSarce; The Bat Lady; TXBubba; Gracey; DrewsDad
Not bad for the startle-gram.....
2 posted on 05/30/2003 8:16:49 PM PDT by tarawa
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To: tarawa
Texas bump!
3 posted on 05/30/2003 8:27:44 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: tarawa
ditto to "startlegram".....methinks this ms. labbe needs some supportin down here.... regards, john
4 posted on 05/30/2003 8:43:40 PM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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To: tarawa
i sent her this email, thanks for the addy

dear ms. labbe thank you for writing the "hypocrisy....thy name is feinstein" line....please warn me before your next article so that i might avoid coffee spew on my monitor.... im amazed the startlegram allows your (reasoned...and correct) article to appear in their fishwrap. if they had more un-pc writers i might buy an issue now and then....but it was refreshing to read your piece on guns at free republic. thank you! john r

5 posted on 05/30/2003 8:59:25 PM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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To: *bang_list
BANG!
6 posted on 05/30/2003 9:04:50 PM PDT by kAcknor
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To: tarawa
molon labbe
7 posted on 05/30/2003 9:12:48 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: tarawa
The ban didn't outlaw high-capacity "clips." Clips are for paper and little girls' hair. It's a magazine.

Even though I aggree with him in essense, he should check his own credibility. The measure bans neither clips nor magazines, although it does mention magazines in the Assault weapon portion. It bans "high capacity ammunition feeding devices" (hey it was written by lawyers working for gun grabbers!). That includes both clips and magazines. (There aren't many clips that hold more than 10 rounds, but there are some, I think). The venerable M-1 Garand uses "en-bloc" clips, which are sort of half way between a removable magazine, and a regular "clip", which is a device to hold catridges and help load them into the magazine, be it fixed or removable. The unusual, but not unique, feature of the Garands clips is that they are loaded into to the magazine, rather than merely aiding loading, and then they are ejected when the last round is fired.

8 posted on 05/30/2003 10:50:39 PM PDT by El Gato
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9 posted on 05/31/2003 5:56:21 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("The world is weary of statesmen whom democracy has degraded into politicians." -- Ben Desraeli)
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To: tarawa
I agree with this Jill about the hypocracy of DiFi.

I say "OK, DiFi, I'll put down all my guns. You first.(fingers crossed)"
10 posted on 05/31/2003 6:36:48 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (If he's a cowboy, then I like cowboys. <><)
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To: Joe Brower
Bang........
11 posted on 05/31/2003 8:02:32 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: El Gato
The ban didn't outlaw high-capacity "clips." Clips are for paper and little girls' hair. It's a magazine. Even though I aggree with him in essense, he should check his own credibility. The measure bans neither clips nor magazines, although it does mention magazines in the Assault weapon portion. It bans "high capacity ammunition feeding devices" (hey it was written by lawyers working for gun grabbers!). That includes both clips and magazines. (There aren't many clips that hold more than 10 rounds, but there are some, I think). There are 15-round *clips* [chargers, or *stripper clips*] for the 5,45mm AK74, and 10-round versions for the fixed box magazine fed FN model 49 rifle that preceeded the wider issued and better known FN-FAL, and for the Mauser Model 1896 *broomhandle* Mauser pistol, now having served theie owners of three centuries, including myself. And U.S. military ammunition for the M1 carbine and M16 rifles has been issued to soldiers in the field in bandoleers containing 10-round *stripper clips* of ammunition in the proper calibers for those weapons, though meant for reloading the detatchable magazine via an adapter, rather than the rifle itself.


12 posted on 05/31/2003 8:42:18 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: tarawa
bump
13 posted on 05/31/2003 8:53:39 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: tarawa; All
Cross-link:

-The RKBA War-- 2 weeks of links ( AWB and more )--

14 posted on 05/31/2003 9:36:17 AM PDT by backhoe (What part about "uninfringed" is so hard to understand? The 2nd guards the 1st...)
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To: Joe Brower
Ping answered...BTTT
15 posted on 05/31/2003 5:08:00 PM PDT by hattend
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To: Joe Brower; All
Hypocrisy, thy name is Feinstein.


Here's Feinstein aiming at the audience with finger on trigger and breech closed per commentary.

16 posted on 05/31/2003 6:38:39 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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bang.
17 posted on 05/31/2003 10:06:13 PM PDT by glock rocks (shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. molon labe)
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To: archy
You wouldn't know where I could get some of those M-1 Carbine stripper clips would you? :) Haven't shot the little darling in a while. Haven't shot any of my long guns in well over a year, they were in storage away from where I was living for most of that time, but I'd like to go out to the range and warm the barrel up on the carbine, as well as at least sighting in the .308.
18 posted on 06/01/2003 3:31:55 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: tarawa
This lady wrote one of the first newspaper articles ever written about Second Amendment Sisters, and she did a great job! I have had a soft spot in my heart for her ever since.
19 posted on 06/01/2003 10:48:58 PM PDT by basil
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To: El Gato
You wouldn't know where I could get some of those M-1 Carbine stripper clips would you? :) Haven't shot the little darling in a while. Haven't shot any of my long guns in well over a year, they were in storage away from where I was living for most of that time, but I'd like to go out to the range and warm the barrel up on the carbine, as well as at least sighting in the .308.

I sure do. Either of these two sources have 'em, though the price is a bit steeper at the Florida source, and you might be better off just purchasing the regular 15-round magazines there. But at a buck apiece for the 10-round chargers, it's worth having at least enough of the stripper clips to refill all your magazines at least once.

Neither of these two places are in Texas, and thus don't charge Texas sales tax. That helps to make up for the shipping costs.

M1 Carbine 10-round stripper clips, 10/$10.00- item M1C-74

Florida source Mark Kubes Surplus Firearms/Parts/Accessories

20 posted on 06/02/2003 9:20:38 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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