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What Wolfowitz Really Said: The truth behind the Vanity Fair "scoop."
The Weekly Standard ^ | 06/09/03 | William Kristol

Posted on 05/30/2003 9:06:20 PM PDT by Pokey78

AS THIS MAGAZINE goes to press, a controversy swirls about the head of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz. He is alleged to have "revealed," in an interview with writer Sam Tanenhaus for the Manhattan celebrity/fashion glossy Vanity Fair, that the Bush administration's asserted casus belli for war against Saddam Hussein--the dictator's weapons-of-mass-destruction program--was little more than a propaganda device, a piece of self-conscious and insincere political manipulation.

Lazy reporters have been following the lead of the press release Vanity Fair publicists circulated about their "scoop." It begins as follows:

Contradicting the Bush administration, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz tells Vanity Fair that weapons of mass destruction had never been the most compelling justification for invading Iraq.

As it happens, this is a not-quite-accurate description of a paragraph in Tanenhaus's article, which itself bears reprinting for reasons that will become obvious in a moment:

When we spoke in May, as U.S. inspectors were failing to find weapons of mass destruction, Wolfowitz admitted that from the outset, contrary to so many claims from the White House, Iraq's supposed cache of WMD had never been the most important casus belli. It was simply one of several reasons: "For bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on." Everyone meaning, presumably, Powell and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "Almost unnoticed but huge," he said, is another reason: removing Saddam will allow the U.S. to take its troops out of Saudi Arabia, where their presence has been one of al-Qaeda's biggest grievances.

Let's be clear: Though Paul Wolfowitz has friends and admirers at The Weekly Standard, we would be surprised and more than a little distressed had he actually said what he's supposed to have said in this instance.

For the last 12 years, all specific and sometimes heated policy disagreements notwithstanding, American presidents of both parties, joining a near-unanimous consensus of the so-called "world community," have agreed that the Baath party regime's persistent and never-fully-disclosed WMD program represented a grave threat to international security. Al Gore, for example, in his much-hyped antiwar speech last September, acknowledged that "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power. We know he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." The notion that the Bush administration's prewar reiteration of this view was a cynical ploy is crackpot.

For that matter, the notion that the Bush administration really, really, in its heart of hearts, had other, preferred reasons for taking out Saddam Hussein--particularly, that it did so to justify removing its troops from Saudi Arabia--and that the entire war was therefore a fraud . . . well, this idea, too, is crackpot.

What gives with this Vanity Fair interview, then?

What gives is that Tanenhaus has mischaracterized Wolfowitz's remarks, that Vanity Fair's publicists have mischaracterized Tanenhaus's mischaracterization, and that Bush administration critics are now indulging in an orgy of righteous indignation that is dishonest in triplicate.

Pentagon staffers were wise enough to tape-record the Tanenhaus-Wolfowitz interview. Prior to publication of the Vanity Fair piece, they made that transcript available to its author. And they have since posted the transcript on the Defense Department's website (www.defenselink.mil). Tanenhaus's assertion that Wolfowitz "admitted" that "Iraq's WMD had never been the most important casus belli" turns out to be, not to put too fine a point on it, false. Here's the relevant section of the conversation:

TANENHAUS: Was that one of the arguments that was raised early on by you and others that Iraq actually does connect, not to connect the dots too much, but the relationship between Saudi Arabia, our troops being there, and bin Laden's rage about that, which he's built on so many years, also connects the World Trade Center attacks, that there's a logic of motive or something like that? Or does that read too much into--

WOLFOWITZ: No, I think it happens to be correct. The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason, but . . . there have always been three fundamental concerns. One is weapons of mass destruction, the second is support for terrorism, the third is the criminal treatment of the Iraqi people. Actually I guess you could say there's a fourth overriding one which is the connection between the first two. . . . The third one by itself, as I think I said earlier, is a reason to help the Iraqis but it's not a reason to put American kids' lives at risk, certainly not on the scale we did it. That second issue about links to terrorism is the one about which there's the most disagreement within the bureaucracy, even though I think everyone agrees that we killed 100 or so of an al Qaeda group in northern Iraq in this recent go-around, that we've arrested that al Qaeda guy in Baghdad who was connected to this guy Zarqawi whom Powell spoke about in his U.N. presentation.

In short, Wolfowitz made the perfectly sensible observation that more than just WMD was of concern, but that among several serious reasons for war, WMD was the issue about which there was widest domestic (and international) agreement.

As for Tanenhaus's suggestion that Wolfowitz somehow fessed up that the war had a hidden, "unnoticed but huge" agenda--rationalizing a pre-planned troop withdrawal from Saudi Arabia--we refer you, again, to the actual interview. In an earlier section of the conversation, concerning the current, postwar situation in the Middle East, Wolfowitz explained that the United States needs to get post-Saddam Iraq "right," and that we also need "to get some progress on the Israeli-Palestinian issue," which now looks more promising. Then Wolfowitz said this:

There are a lot of things that are different now, and one that has gone by almost unnoticed--but it's huge--is that by complete mutual agreement between the U.S. and the Saudi government we can now remove almost all of our forces from Saudi Arabia. Their presence there over the last 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government. . . . I think just lifting that burden from the Saudis is itself going to open the door to other positive things.

Tanenhaus has taken a straightforward and conventional observation about strategic arrangements in a post-Saddam Middle East and juiced it up into a vaguely sinister "admission" about America's motives for going to war in the first place.

The failure so far to discover "stocks" of WMD material in post-Saddam Iraq raises legitimate questions about the quality of U.S. and allied intelligence--though no one doubts that Saddam's regime had weapons of mass destruction, used weapons of mass destruction, and had an ongoing program to develop more such weapons. Furthermore, people of good will are entitled to disagree, even in retrospect, about the wisdom and probable effects of Saddam's forcible removal. But distorting an on-the-record interview with a Bush administration official in order to create a quasi-conspiratorial narrative of deceit and deception at the highest levels of the U.S. government is a disgrace.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billkristol; falsification; iraq; mediabias; mediacrimes; mediafraud; mediahate; medialies; paulwolfowitz; schadenfreude; vanityfair; vanityfairfraud
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
i am afraid to visit the helen thomas link for fear there will be an accompanying photo...
41 posted on 05/31/2003 9:11:51 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: Timesink

For anyone foolish enough to think the media will admit error, here's how the AP is (not) handling the corrected quote, in a story entitled " U.S. Strategy Shifts in Iraq Weapons Hunt (no byline) posted at 10:26 AM today on Excite:

Meanwhile, comments from senior U.S. defense officials about Iraq's weapons have revived controversy in Europe over whether the war was justified.

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz cited bureaucratic reasons for focusing on Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, and said a "huge" result of the war was to enable Washington to withdraw its troops from Saudi Arabia.

"The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy, we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason," Wolfowitz was quoted as saying in a Pentagon transcript of an interview with Vanity Fair.

The magazine's reporter did not tape the telephone interview and provided a slightly different version of the quote in the article: "For bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on."

Earlier this week, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Iraq's weapons of mass destruction may have been destroyed before the war.

"It is also possible that they (Saddam Hussein's government) decided that they would destroy them prior to a conflict," he told the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.

Neither Rumsfeld nor Wolfowitz suggested Washington fabricated weapons claims, and an aide to the defense secretary, speaking on condition of anonymity, insisted their remarks had been misinterpreted.

However, the remarks were widely published in Europe and were seen by skeptical Europeans as a tacit admission that the United States overstated Iraq's weapons threat.

Interesting -- and most likely, intentional,  juxtaposition -- first give an abbreviated Pentagon version of the taped quote (which still puts it out of context), then give the reporter's untaped version. No big deal, right? 

42 posted on 05/31/2003 9:37:41 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad
The Media at work!
43 posted on 05/31/2003 9:45:00 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: browardchad
The Albanians in Kosovo also suffered torture and oppression as did the Haitians before Aristide. At the time, most conservatives did not find this torture or oppression to be necessary or sufficient to support armed intervention. They were right. It is interesting that now (especially after the failure to find WMD) conservatives are making the same arguments they once rejected.
44 posted on 05/31/2003 9:54:00 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: browardchad
Interesting -- and most likely, intentional,  juxtaposition -- first give an abbreviated Pentagon version of the taped quote (which still puts it out of context), then give the reporter's untaped version. No big deal, right? 

You REALLY ought to post that as a separate thread, highlighting in the headline that the AP is covering up and spinning the Vanity Fair fraud story. Then I can ping the NYTimes Schadenfreude list!

45 posted on 05/31/2003 10:03:16 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Terp
Vanity Fair also had Robert KKK Byrd as their man of the month a few months ago. It's a liberal rag but they do have some good stories sometimes.
46 posted on 05/31/2003 10:06:33 AM PDT by John Lenin (Government does not solve problems, it subsidizes them)
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To: teeman8r
i am afraid to visit the helen thomas link for fear there will be an accompanying photo...

A legitimate concern..
1..Close your eyes real tight so that only the slightest images can be seen..
2..Click on the link (remember where the back arrow is located)
3..If you see anything that even remotely looks like a pic, hit the back arrow immediately
4..If not, open eyes very slowly (be cautious, there still might be a pic that you missed)
5..If you still see no pic, open eyes completely and proceed carefully to read what will most assuredly be a disgusting piece of garbage...err...verbage

47 posted on 05/31/2003 11:01:45 AM PDT by evad (Lying..It's WHAT they do, it's ALL they do and they WON'T stop...EVER!!)
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To: Terp
Take a consequence of an action to be its cause. yeah, that is lying--big time.
48 posted on 05/31/2003 11:23:04 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: LiteKeeper
What garbage. I know lots of humanists and atheists and they are almost to a person conservative politically. You can have moral absolutes and be a humanist. The only thing that humanism represents is that ethics are intrinsic and not externally derived. Sure you have crackpots on the humanist side but then again you can also have happy go luckys like OBL on the religious side.

Don't lump my foundation for morality and ethics into my politics: they're not the same.

49 posted on 05/31/2003 1:16:01 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: Pokey78
After reading this, I can't imagine why the news media is SHOCKED, (SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!) that the public does not believe two thirds of what they read in most of the rag mags and rag papers....
50 posted on 05/31/2003 1:44:19 PM PDT by lindagirl
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To: Torie
What reason did Tony Blair use to get Palirmentary support? Or Colin Powell before the UN? Only one--WMD.

Unless like Arafat our leaders officially say one thing and then say another to the public....

51 posted on 05/31/2003 3:59:52 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Terp
Sam Tanenhaus used to write for the New York Times. He may well still provide things for them from time to time.
52 posted on 05/31/2003 5:32:06 PM PDT by gaspar (`)
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To: Pokey78
Sounds like Sam Tanenhaus was following the Maureen Dowd rule of journalism. Need a juicy story? Misquote the subject and try to cause a firestorm!
53 posted on 05/31/2003 6:10:34 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: wireplay
You can have moral absolutes and be a humanist.

And where do those "absolutes" come from?

54 posted on 05/31/2003 8:03:22 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: LiteKeeper
Innately. It is in our best interest as a species to not steal, kill, covet thy neighbors wife, etc. I am a big believer in the code of ethics, 10 commandments, etc. I just believe they were not handed down to us but we rose up and embraced them over generations. Morally, we are probably on the same page (I would assume since you are on FR). However, I believe that humanity is great enough to actually create absolutes and ethics without outside interference, hence the term humanist.

In fact, I would say that Humanists are true conservatives since they feel that the problems of the world are our own making and hence we won't be lifted out of them w/o us doing the lifting.

55 posted on 05/31/2003 8:11:15 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: LiteKeeper
Ha, I just read your profile. I live in Woodland Park. Lost my dad in Vietnam so thanks for your service as well as the continued work at the Academy.
56 posted on 05/31/2003 8:13:27 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: blam
Ah bush strategery ... :-)

... not just that, but noticed that now we have a little dog known as the MEK, a terror group fighting against the theocrats in Tehran ... interesting how we have some levers for cooperation, there as well, and in Syria...

the beat goes on.
57 posted on 05/31/2003 11:34:01 PM PDT by WOSG (Freedom for Cuba, North Korea, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Tibet, China...)
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To: iconoclast
nah, people never cared about WMDs. it was a yawner. and we could just as well gone witht eht rue links to terror ... the REAL PROBLEM was the decision to go to UN. the one thing that tugged at ordinatry people was his torture chambers, killing of his own people, running a police state, and paying for terrorists (eg his funding of suicide bombers, funding GIA, and letting terror cells in europe use IRaqi intel.)

But you see, the UN cant allow the US to invade a country just because it is a terrorist-supporting dictatorship ... why, several security council countries and at least a dozen countries would be legitimate targets! (Now IMHO< we should go after them too, one by one, see below list ... but that's a different story ...)

So when we went to the UN to get 'legitimacy' for a war that was fully justified ALREADY ON OTHER BASES, we couldnt use those bases to argue in front of the UN. So we went based on the fact that saddam wasnt obeying UN resolutions, which happened to be related to his WMD programs. And Bush asked the UN 'to enforce its own resolutions'.

Too bad, because the far better reason - that he funded, armed, trained and supported terrorists was a good enough reason to go back in Sept 02. could have saved ourselves the trouble of 6 months at the UN!


And btw, you are putting the biased reporters words in PWs mouth. Not wise!!

58 posted on 05/31/2003 11:41:37 PM PDT by WOSG (Freedom for Cuba, North Korea, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Tibet, China...)
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To: Destro
What reason did Tony Blair use to get Palirmentary support? Or Colin Powell before the UN? Only one--WMD.

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False, and you know it. Terror links were mentioned by both. Blair put out a whole dossier on the crimes against *humanity* of Saddam Hussein.

You have the credibility of NYT with comments like that! LOL!
59 posted on 05/31/2003 11:43:34 PM PDT by WOSG (Freedom for Cuba, North Korea, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Tibet, China...)
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To: WOSG
With Clinton speak like that you should write for teh democrats.

The link for war was WMD. I am not saying there is none--but as long as we can't find it we look bad.

60 posted on 05/31/2003 11:55:14 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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