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Laci's things in tug of war
The Modesto Bee ^ | May 31, 2003 | Garth Stapely and John Cote'

Posted on 05/31/2003 8:41:50 AM PDT by runningbear

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To: MizSterious
In my opinion, the Petersons and their legal team knew they could hurt the Rochas, so they kept them out. I know the Petersons are fighting for their son's life, but shame on 'em for this.

I dont know - the way I read this, was that an agreement was formulated between the families through their legal counsel, which would have allowed the Rochas to enter and take items of Lacis that they wanted to have - I also see that Scott was helping make a list of 'sentimental' items that Laci would have wanted her family to have (don't know how true that last part is...).

Then, the Rochas BREAK INTO a home (they set off the alarm, which indicates a unconventional mehtod of entry, to me) and begin removing truckloads of stuff, rather than going by the agreement they signed off on... The Rochas are looking less and less like decent people to me. Morally, maybe they were in the right, but it certainly could have been handled better...

51 posted on 05/31/2003 9:33:42 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Chad, one of the lawyers on Fox said yesterday that this is not the case in California. The house remains in both names until it's decided if Scott did it or not. If he's found guilty, the house goes to Laci's heirs. Right now it's still considered "joint tenancy" even though Laci is dead.

From what that attorney said, the Scott's parents had no more right to enter the house than the Rochas did.
52 posted on 05/31/2003 9:33:45 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
... that makes them just as scummy as Scott, with his lying and deceiving, in my book...

Before you write the ending to your book suggest you do a little more research.

53 posted on 05/31/2003 9:34:25 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Right, RG, maybe that's the reason they were able to access the home and no charges were filed.
54 posted on 05/31/2003 9:34:43 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O
The only thing they have now are all of these horrific leaks about the brutal way they died.

That's a good point - I don't like how THAT played out either, but to react to it in a cold calculated manner, using it as an excuse to do what they did inclines me to not have any sympathy for them...

55 posted on 05/31/2003 9:36:01 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Seems to me that the Rochas didn't want to wait - they had an agreement they were to abide by, and they broke that agreement. If anyone looks bad out of this, it is the Rochas...

Unless they feared the Peterson clan would take the items out of the house that they had requested. The Peterson's handed over some things requested, but it was a backhanded gesture that I'm sure the Rocha's took as not only insulting, but as a sign of uncooperation. The Peterson's have been saying one thing and doing another this entire time.

56 posted on 05/31/2003 9:36:02 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: RGSpincich
Did you miss the part where Geragos interferred in the agreement and canceled it?

Yes, I must have - all I saw was that the actual access to the home would be videotaped as part of the record... I don't see that as interfering...

57 posted on 05/31/2003 9:36:58 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The Rocha's attorney was on FNC yesterday, and he said there was no agreement, and that they had tried to reach one. The implication was that Geragos et al stonewalled them.
58 posted on 05/31/2003 9:37:42 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
LOL... your tagline.....;o)
59 posted on 05/31/2003 9:39:26 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: clouda
I just wish the whole looney clan would just back off and let justice be done!
60 posted on 05/31/2003 9:39:30 AM PDT by Jackie-O (Duct tape is my friend...multi purpose!)
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To: RGSpincich
As I stated, none of the 'participants' in this story are looking 'good' - Tee lawyers, the families, the suspect, the media, etc...

But what the hell, just so I can fit in with everyone, let me join the "Scott is scum and should be beaten to death without a trial, since we all KNOW he's guilty, and the Rochas are Saints" crowd and say "Scott is guilty guilty guilty!"...

There. Happy now? :0)
61 posted on 05/31/2003 9:39:37 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
(they set off the alarm, which indicates a unconventional mehtod of entry, to me)

No, the vast majority of alarms are set off when you open the door. You then need to punch in a code within 30 seconds or so to keep the alarm from going off.

So while the may have broken in, I doubt it, because Geragos would have undoubtedly pointed that out. As it seems now, the used a key, but found the alarm code had been changed (it's easy to do).

62 posted on 05/31/2003 9:40:31 AM PDT by TomB
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To: Chad Fairbanks
LOL
63 posted on 05/31/2003 9:40:38 AM PDT by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: MizSterious
CF, crime tape had been removed...if Geragos hadn't gotten it all by now, he's just plain lazy or careless...I know the Petersons are fighting for their son's life, but shame on 'em for this.

Completely agree.

64 posted on 05/31/2003 9:40:40 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: .38sw; RGSpincich
Not sure, but as scaughty was arrested, he had planned knowlingly prior should he be arrested, wasted no time signging the power of attorney to his parents,notorized.

RG:
Do you still have that link to that doc?

65 posted on 05/31/2003 9:41:36 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: MizSterious
The Rocha's attorney was on FNC yesterday, and he said there was no agreement, and that they had tried to reach one. The implication was that Geragos et al stonewalled them.

Well, of course that's what he'd say, and the other side will say it was opposing counsel's fault it fell through - that's how it works... everyone jockeying for position in the "PR Game"... never mind what happens in court, it's public perception that matters to everyone, apparenlty... :(

66 posted on 05/31/2003 9:41:37 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: runningbear
Not sure, but as scaughty was arrested, he had planned knowlingly prior should he be arrested, wasted no time signging the power of attorney to his parents,notorized

Hmmm... well, I cna't speak for anyone else, but I don't see why that is such a damning thing to do - if MY wife were murdered, and there were no suspects I'd probably prepare for possible arrest too, whether I was guilty of it or not, just because the pressure is always on the police in high-profile cases...

67 posted on 05/31/2003 9:44:46 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
but since the memorial, the Rochas have pretty much stayed out of the media limelife, until that autopsy reports started breaking... then you now have yesterday's events... So, in most part the Peterson family is evolving these events, because of their scaughty boy.

And yes, parents always will protect, and defend their children. Sometimes, knowing what they did was true indeed... ;o)

68 posted on 05/31/2003 9:45:18 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I see. So you take Geragos' statements at face value, but anything by the Rochas' attorney is self-serving junk? For what it's worth, he also stated that he in no way condoned what Mrs. Rochas did, and that he wished she would have waited until they wound their way through court to do it right.
69 posted on 05/31/2003 9:45:20 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: WellsFargo94
I think so, especially after KTVU's story, I posted on another post....
70 posted on 05/31/2003 9:46:15 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The Rochas hired attorneys 2 1/2 months ago because the Petersons wouldn't let her in. What probably ticked off Sharon the most was Ms. Peterson calling in to Greta's show, acting like there was no problem, and saying she would "leave the plants outside for them to pick up". Geragos is as slimy as SP, and that butt running around asking if a burglary had been reported "afraid the rochas would plant evidence" is slime too.
Excuse me, she had been patient long enough. I would have done just what they did but wouldn't have waited so long. I'm glad she got the jewlry too, hope she got it all. the petersons still have their son at least for now. Sharon deserves to have some of Laci's things, the petersons are just plain mean.
71 posted on 05/31/2003 9:46:31 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: runningbear
A friend of Laci's mom said on Greta yesterday that Laci's jewelry was all missing. I wonder if he sold it or gave it to other women.

Why does Geragos have any reputation at all? Does anyone know of a case he has actually won? McDougal went to prison, Ryder was convicted. Who else?

This case IS over-played and it's hard to understand. They are very ordinary people and one of thousands of murders, most equally "interesting" and every one just as tragic. We just turn the coverage off now most days. It's non-stop. Rita Cosby, Geraldo and Greta are the worst of them on Fox, totally obsessed! Larry King will do anything to get his ratings back. That's not likely! He's fading with CNN.
72 posted on 05/31/2003 9:47:55 AM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: spoiler2
If there is forensic evidence, then that's an altogether different matter. I'll admit I've only paid superficial notice to this media story, so I really shouldn't even participate in the thread. Not even sure why I clicked on this one - LOL!
73 posted on 05/31/2003 9:48:15 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: Lanza
LOL... good thing I swallowed my coffee before reading your post...;o)
74 posted on 05/31/2003 9:49:41 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: MizSterious
No, I don't trust lawyers in general, ESPECIALLY in high-profile cases... Both families are looking amazingly disfunctional right now, and I think EVEYRONE involved should be ashamed - Laci and the baby are dead, we all know that, and at this point, that is all we REALLY know - now, another man's life hangs in the balance, and to see the two families duking it out in the public arena is tragis, pathetic, and sickening - why can't everyone (on both sides) just shut the hell up, stop mucking up everything, and wait for the trial???

Based on what I see here on FR, I don't see how Scott Peterson will ever be able to have an impartial jury that hasn't already been saturated by information and leaks in this case - and THAT is what bothers me most about this case - another 'trial by media' and everything being emotion-driven, rather than fact driven...

I wish the judge would issue a gag order on everyone, INCLUDING and ESPECIALLY the families...
75 posted on 05/31/2003 9:51:20 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Not that it's germane to this case or anything, but I wans't entirely convinced at first, but eventually came around...

I hear where you're coming from. My mind on Westerfield's guilt was set from Day 1, as it is with Scaughty. But, that's me, and I can blame it on 23 years of dealing with murderers, rapists and robbers, etc. day after day. I've seen the games they play, the lies they tell, and the manipulating behavior they exhibit even after being caught, convicted and incarcerated. It's a never-ending game with them. They've all been framed, and don't belong in prison you know!

In a way I envy you your ability to look at this the way you do. On the other hand, I'm rarely disappointed when all the facts come out. But at least we live in a country where we can each have our own points of view.

76 posted on 05/31/2003 9:51:32 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: mass55th
I just don't like 'Trial By Media'... that's relaly my point-of-view on this... everything else is secondary... ;0)
77 posted on 05/31/2003 9:53:33 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: libbylu
I'm glad she got the jewlry too, hope she got it all.

The jewelry included Laci's wedding band, diamond ring, and diamonds that were once Laci's grandmother's.

78 posted on 05/31/2003 9:55:09 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: mass55th
Were you also not totally convinced of David Westerfield's guilt?

As some of you may recall, I was totally convinced of David Westerfield's guilt. But it was after hearing of the hair, fiber and blood evidence. When I heard early on about his meandering trip to the desert that weekend, it seemed to me that this is probably the guy who did it, but that there wasn't enough to convict yet. It took some physical evidence tying him to the crime--a weird set of circumstances wasn't quite enough.

Where we are with Peterson, I believe, is where we were with Westerfield when all we knew was he took a weird desert trip. Peterson took an odd trip to the very bay where Laci's body showed up later, and that may be enough for probable cause to charge him with the crime, and to believe that he probably is the guy who did it.

It's not enough, without more, I believe, to convict him, and when his defense brings in the facts that there were burglars, the dog found wandering with the leash attached, the guy who said he saw a pregnant lady walking a dog on December 24 AFTER Scott left for his trip, it will generate reasonable doubt pretty easily. Anyone could have dumped the body in the bay after reading that the police suspected the husband, and he had been fishing in the bay.

To convict, I think the police are going to need to tie something on the bodies or at the bottom of the bay with Scott--duct tape match, fingerprint on the tape, concrete block from Scott's business, blood splatters in the boat that match Laci, something like that. Otherwise, right now, there's no way you can convict him. But that's just my opinion.

79 posted on 05/31/2003 9:55:35 AM PDT by Defiant (Bush as philosopher: "I-raq, therefore I-ran.")
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To: Defiant
Who cares about unimportant things like evidence and due process and stuff? The media is on the case, and they are trustworthy and totally unbiased, and are always driven by cold, hard fact, not emotion and stuff... why sweat it? We got our man. Let's just skip the trial and get right to the sentencing...

(do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
80 posted on 05/31/2003 9:58:39 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Would you want to have to make an appointment to gather stuff of your deceased loved one's belongings, and knowing that the mother-inlaw was playing games, leaving plants outside the home, at her whime for a later time to pick up plants or other stuff, or taking items from the home, taking it to the defense attorney's office for retrieval, and ultimately to be video taped while there? I don't think so. (the Peterson's actons throughout this case speaks volumns of how uppity they think they are! What Jackie was doing, I would of got the memo, come get your plants when I am not here, oh by the way, you can't have access to my boy's house!)

As a victim's parent, I think the Rochas felt compelled to do what they did. After all, during these events, since Dec 23rd, Scott, wasn't very cooperate with the Rochas either then. Especially after Jan 24th press conference.

It will be all ironed out in the end in the probate court, and most likely a civil court... besides the criminal actions on scaughty.. ;o)

81 posted on 05/31/2003 9:58:53 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Jackie-O; All
I missed where the information came from about the defense team swimming in the pool.

Does anyone remember the source/link to that info?
82 posted on 05/31/2003 9:59:09 AM PDT by justshe
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To: runningbear
RB thanks for the PING!!
Again the Peterson's insert foot in mouth over a simple action of the Rocha's wanting to retrieve items from the house that were Laci's. Now we know where Scott got his attitude....
83 posted on 05/31/2003 9:59:37 AM PDT by jdontom (BacktheBadge)
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To: runningbear; Jackie-O; All
Peterson family planned to keep some property



http://www.modbee.com/reports/laci/story/6879731p-7816220c.html

Scott Peterson's family had planned to voluntarily turn over only some of the items that his wife's family wanted from the couple's home.
Laci Peterson's family and friends acted first, though, and took what they wanted Friday from the Covena Avenue house -- over the Peterson family's objections.

Jackie Peterson, Scott's mother, expressed dismay: "Yesterday we see a coroner's report about a baby, and today we're talking about salt and pepper shakers," she said by telephone from her home in San Diego County.

In discussing the Rochas' request for property from the home, Peterson said some of the items, such as Laci's journals, could not be turned over.

"Scott didn't even know she had journals," Peterson said. "If she did, police have them."

Peterson said her son has a request, too: He wants his wife's wedding ring, another diamond ring that he bought her, and a few diamonds given to Laci by her grandmother. Peterson said the rings and gems had been taken to a jeweler for crafting into one ring.

"We want those," Peterson said. She said the Rochas picked them up from the jeweler.

The Rocha family could not be reached for comment.

The family had submitted a 22-point list of items sought from the house. Peterson said Laci's mother, Sharon Rocha, later revised it to 16 points.

The Rochas still wanted the crib intended for Conner, the boy with whom Laci was pregnant at the time of her disappearance. And they wanted the rocking chair from the baby's room, too.

Crib and rocking chair went out the door Friday.

Earlier this week, family attorneys said the Rochas needed to "sit in Conner's room in the rocking chair Laci had purchased to rock him in, and just to have the opportunity to feel her presence."

Peterson said she and her family bought almost everything in the baby's room, including crib, rocking chair, clothes and toys -- all baby shower gifts. Scott wanted to keep the baby's things, his mother said.

She said Sharon Rocha was welcome to take back the crib bedding that she had purchased.

Peterson said her son previously agreed to give some property to Laci's brother and half sister: for Brent Rocha, flower vase wall sconces that he had given to Laci as a gift; and for Amy Rocha, wicker furniture and lamps given to Laci by the women's paternal grandmother.

Other items, she said, Scott and Laci acquired as a couple -- such as two white chairs and an end table. "They are not Sharon's," Peterson said.

Nor did her son want to turn over kitchenware -- a food processor, a mixer and cookbooks -- "that Scott will need to keep house," his mother said.

Scott already had decided to turn over the salt and pepper shaker set, in snail motif.

The Rochas also had asked for "Laci's fine china and stemware." Peterson noted how the listing omitted Scott's name.

She described the china and stemware as wedding gifts to the couple, entitling Scott to keep them. She added that she and her husband bought most of the china, filling out the set after the wedding.

There are no photos of Laci to turn over, Peterson said. She said police took every one that included Laci, leaving four photos in the house. She said police also took most of Laci's clothing. "But she (Sharon Rocha) can have all of it."

The Rochas also had asked for Peterson's wedding dress. Scott's mother revealed that the dress was taken in a mid-January burglary at the house, during a weekend when Scott was in Los Angeles for a one-day search effort for his wife.

A few days later, police said they had identified a suspect but did not report an arrest. They gave no name but described the suspect as someone known by the Petersons, and said the suspect was one of many people with access to the home.

Jackie Peterson said her son got the wedding dress back, then had it cleaned and boxed.

She was adamant about a glass memento box. She said she gave the glass box to her son and daughter-in-law for display of photos and seashells from their honeymoon in Tahiti.

"That's a 'no-way,'" Peterson said about giving the box to the Rochas.

It is not known where the box is today.
84 posted on 05/31/2003 9:59:47 AM PDT by clouda ("I can't believe it, dad, why would they do that?")
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To: Jackie-O
"even swimming in the pool"

Whoa! There's a swimming pool at Scaughty's house? I didn't know that, but I probably should have, it being California and all. Has there been any speculation that he could have drown her? After all, if he drowned her, and then dumped her body in the ocean, would there be proof as to whether she drowned in a pool or in the ocean? I'm wondering if chlorine would still be present in the lungs after all this time in saltwater. He could have knocked her out or drugged her, then dragged her to the pool to drown her. There's a wooden fence around the place isn't there? What better way of committing a crime out there after dark and no one being able to see you do it?

85 posted on 05/31/2003 10:00:02 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: BonnieJ
A friend of Laci's mom said on Greta yesterday that Laci's jewelry was all missing. I wonder if he sold it or gave it to other women.

All of the jewelry, Laci's wedding band, diamond ring, and her grandmother's jewelry given to Laci had all been sent to a jeweler by Scott to be "reset into one ring". That or he was going to sell it or give it to Amber?

86 posted on 05/31/2003 10:00:54 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: runningbear
Well, I don't see what te big rush was - they had to have everything NOW, orcould it have waited? Apparently they needed these things right now, if not sooner?

To hell with the games, and the mother-in-law, and all that stuff - if they couldn't reach an agreement with the family, they could have taken the probate court route - I would have respected them for that. Now, to me, they look like a bunch of meterialistic looters of the dead...
87 posted on 05/31/2003 10:01:26 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: BonnieJ; runningbear; All
The freind also told Greta that they used a KEY to get into the home....
88 posted on 05/31/2003 10:02:18 AM PDT by Jackie-O (Duct tape is my friend...multi purpose!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Your smartass statement to me leaves me assured that you haven't got a clue what's happening in this case. No agreement existed for either family to enter the house (That doesn't stop the Petersons, though), Peterson does not own the house outright and alarms go off all the time at homes where the proper person is gaining entry. By your logic, the first one to change the alarm code wins control of the house.
89 posted on 05/31/2003 10:04:00 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich; Chad Fairbanks; All
Thakyou Runningbear for the ping.

I think Sharon Rocha has been yanked around far too may times. If anyone has been a model of restraint in this case it is her. I think if this goes to a civil case, no resonable person could fault her, after being led to believe she would be given access to the home, to have it refused at the last minute was cruel beyond the belief.This obviouly was a important part of closure for her, to be jerked around by the Peterson's is the straw that broke the camels back.

My only concern is the Peterson's are going to try to use this a an appeal down the road,they have already said that they "suspect" the Rocha's could plant evidence against Scott. There is nothing Geragos would not do to win this case, including break Sharon Rocha's hold on sanity.
90 posted on 05/31/2003 10:04:58 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Jackie-O
yep... and like some say, this will get ugly fighting over possessions.. But frankly, I think the Rocha's should retrieve all of Laci's stuff, and place in their attorney's custody, and let the probate judge handle the property and legal rights..

But then, looking for final sweet justice if the Rocha's file a civil suit for the deaths of Laci and Conner. ;o)

91 posted on 05/31/2003 10:05:31 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: RGSpincich
Is the house in the name of Peterson, or Rocha? Just because I married a woman, and we bought a house together, does NOT give my in-laws (or my wife's in-laws for that matter) the right to come into our home and take stuff that does NOT belong to them.

Tyhat is Theft, plain and simple. If you can't see that, then I am sorry you were not raised right...
92 posted on 05/31/2003 10:06:27 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Gag order, I agree..Rochas have not been talking till now, and it's their attorney that is doing it...Petersons have been yapping since day one. And all of the leaks have allegedly been from the Geragos camp and IMO are not working the way they intended them to.
93 posted on 05/31/2003 10:07:41 AM PDT by Jackie-O (Duct tape is my friend...multi purpose!)
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To: mass55th
In a way I envy you your ability to look at this the way you do. On the other hand, I'm rarely disappointed when all the facts come out. But at least we live in a country where we can each have our own points of view.

I have the same problem you do. All indicators point to the husband. I recall seeing him on some show where he "broke down and cried". It was absurd. Very contrived. Almost comical in that it was such bad acting.

Nobody really knows what evidence the police have. Hopefully they will have something that gives them a slam dunk here. But, keep in mind that EVERY DAY people get away with murder. The OJ case was a "slam dunk" for example. I personally heard that from one of the lead detectives in that case. And he was right. But he was wrong.

As far as the family taking things out of the house? They had no more right to what they did than I do. They should have kept the high ground. They basically did break in and steal things. Doing so reflects badly on their daughters and grandsons memories. And takes the focus off Scott and gives his defense slime something to make noise about. Dumb move on their part.

94 posted on 05/31/2003 10:07:44 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (This tag line may be closer than it appears in the mirror.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I think the rush for NOW is because SP's family was already getting rid of Laci's stuff. Her wedding rings along with jewelry from her grandmother were taken to a jewelers to be ruined forever. I am sure the Rocha's wanted to get what they could before they sold off her wedding dress and anything else to help that piece of crap Scott.

95 posted on 05/31/2003 10:08:15 AM PDT by Lanza
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To: MizSterious
besides, Jackie stated that she cleaned or had the house cleaned. So, who tainted by whom, Geragos, or Jackie? ....lol../need my cup of coffee... ;o)

sorry, just had to say this... heehee...

96 posted on 05/31/2003 10:08:50 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Law school ruined us--it forced us to organize our thoughts logically!

You are 100 percent right on all the posts here. It is amazing that people are so misinformed about property rights. The house and all its contents belonged to the husband and wife. If the wife dies, it belongs to the husband 100 percent, including the right to determine who goes in there. IF the property of another person is in the house, for example a lawnmower borrowed by Scott, that person is not allowed to enter and take it. The proper action is to ask a court to get it back for you. It seems that none of the property taken by the Rochas belonged to them. If it belonged to Laci at the time of her death, it belonged to Scott when she died. The Rocha's only right was to ask Scott to give it to them to be a nice guy, which it looks like he was willing to do.

It was a burglary, pure and simple, one which the police allowed to occur while they watched. The Rochas had no colorable right to possess the items they took.

Convict him, sue him in court, get a judgment, then take the house and everything in it. Do it the right way, or else it may be your ex-mother in law with a friend in the police force showing up at your door while you are on vacation and saying it's a civil matter while she steals your stuff.

97 posted on 05/31/2003 10:08:52 AM PDT by Defiant (Bush as philosopher: "I-raq, therefore I-ran.")
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To: MaggieMay
My only concern is the Peterson's are going to try to use this a an appeal down the road,they have already said that they "suspect" the Rocha's could plant evidence against Scott. There is nothing Geragos would not do to win this case, including break Sharon Rocha's hold on sanity.

I don't see that happening, if only because any 'evidence' has most likely been removed by police investigators - I agree, though, that Geregos is scum - But Sharon Rocha could have handled this differently, imho...

98 posted on 05/31/2003 10:09:13 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (A blind man received a cheese grater as a gift - said it was the most violent thing he had ever read)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
According to the Rocha's attorney, there WAS an agreement to go in last Tuesday, and then Mark Geragoes nixed it. MG even told the Rocha's attorney Thursday afternoon that they were not getting into the house (prefaced with something like "if you want war you got it.").
99 posted on 05/31/2003 10:10:43 AM PDT by Lanza
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To: runningbear
http://www.sailingacross.com/berk.htm

Scroll down, three page document. : )
100 posted on 05/31/2003 10:11:01 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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