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32 blades, no explanation
Star-Telegram ^ | May 31, 2003 | Toni Heinzl

Posted on 05/31/2003 11:28:27 AM PDT by Aaron_A

32 blades, no explanation

Mystery surrounds Pakistani who will be sentenced for carrying razor blades at D/FW

By Toni Heinzl Star-Telegram Staff Writer

FORT WORTH - Fazal Karim and the 32 double-edged razor blades he kept in a coiled belt in a cardboard box in his carry-on bag remain a mystery to the men who prosecuted and defended him in federal court.

A former computer programmer with the civilian-aviation authority of Pakistan, Karim, 37, lived with his wife and three young children in Houston, where he ran three cellphone stores.

Prosecutors say he returned to Texas from a four-week trip to Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates on March 5 and was waiting at D/FW Airport for his connecting flight to Houston when security screeners discovered the razor blades.

Government agents and prosecutors said Karim gave contradictory statements about why he was traveling with the razor blades, but authorities have presented no evidence suggesting that he plotted acts of violence or terrorism.

U.S. District Judge Terry Means scheduled Karim's sentencing for Aug. 25. Karim faces a maximum sentence of 25 years in prison. A jury convicted him May 22 of making false statements about his legal status and of carrying and attempting to carry concealed dangerous weapons in air transportation.

For Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the case is one in a long line of examples of U.S. authorities engaging in ethnic profiling of Muslims in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

"If that person had been a Norwegian businessman, he wouldn't be in the trouble Mr. Karim is in," Hooper said. "It sounds odd that somebody up to no good would bring 32 razor blades, which would increase his chances of being detected, when all he needed was one razor blade if he wanted to do harm."

Hooper said Muslims do not mind being screened at airports if the same standards are applied to everyone.

"It has been an ongoing concern that Muslims are singled out," Hooper said.

Federal officials say that Karim came to the attention of security screeners at D/FW because of his suspicious behavior and that lying to FBI agents and immigration officials, not his ethnicity or religious background, ultimately led to his arrest.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Fred Schattman said the security screeners noticed that Karim appeared to dissociate himself from his carry-on bag. After he had placed it on the conveyor belt leading to an X-ray machine, Karim did not walk through the adjacent magnetometer but selected one farther away.

Not only were the razor blades artfully concealed within the belt, but the screener also noticed that Karim did not have a razor in his luggage, Schattman said.

"Our theory was that these were dangerous weapons he concealed to carry on the aircraft," Schattman said.

The Transportation Security Administration screeners initially confiscated the razor blades and let Karim proceed to the gate. However, after discussing Karim's behavior, they called in airport police and FBI agents, the prosecutor said.

When FBI agents questioned Karim about the razor blades, he offered three contradictory explanations, Schattman said.

First, Karim told FBI agents that he used the razor blades to shave the bottom of his full beard. Then he said they were for a friend in Houston named Mahmoud. Finally, he said he did not know the razor blades were in his bag.

"This is the first case at D/FW, to my knowledge, where we found razor blades in carry-on luggage where there is no razor in the bag," Schattman said.

In addition, immigration inspectors discovered that Karim's claim that he was a tourist visiting friends in Houston for a couple of weeks was a lie. Immigration authorities found out that Karim, a Pakistani national with Canadian citizenship, had lived in Houston for three years and did not have a residence in another country.

He had a one-way, $3,069 ticket from Karachi, Pakistan, to Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, to Paris to D/FW and to Houston.

Schattman rejected any notions of ethnic profiling in the case. Since 9-11, though, aviation-safety cases are prosecuted more aggressively as a deterrent, Schattman said.

"If he had been Irish and Catholic, with the same set of circumstances, I believe we would have filed the same case and prosecuted it the same way," Schattman said.

Karim's attorney, Larry Brown, did not raise the issue of ethnic profiling at the trial, arguing that the blades were mistaken for weapons.

"Our position is that they were hygiene items, not weapons," Brown said. Brown said that other than lying about his legal status, Karim is law-abiding and had no criminal history.

Karim's youngest child was born in the United States. His wife and the two elder children might face deportation, Brown said.

"Mr. Karim wasn't the first one to ever show up at the airport with razor blades in his carry-on," Brown said. "Typically, travelers are not arrested but given the option of throwing the items in the trash or having them confiscated."

It was a different story in Karim's case because the blades were "artfully concealed," requiring screeners to notify airport police and the FBI, said Brian Turmail, a spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration in Washington.

"It is the same screening for every passenger."

Since February 2002, baggage screeners at U.S. airports have seized 5 million banned items, including scissors, knives, throwing stars and guns, Turmail said.

Toni Heinzl, (817) 390-7684 theinzl@star-telegram.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; airportsecurity; bagscreeners; cair; changingstories; dallas; evervigilant; fifthcolumn; fifthcolumnists; flightscreeners; france; frenchsecurity; houston; pakistan; paris; potentialterrorist; texas
A police mug of Fazal Karim along with the razor blades he was carrying at D/FW in March.

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1 posted on 05/31/2003 11:28:27 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: Aaron_A
GOOGLE Search Term: "Fazal Karim"
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Fazal+Karim%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0
2 posted on 05/31/2003 11:34:58 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Aaron_A
"It is the same screening for every passenger."

Because of the stupid pretense that all persons are equally likely to be terrorists.

3 posted on 05/31/2003 11:37:11 AM PDT by knuthom
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To: Aaron_A
Hooper said Muslims do not mind being screened at airports if the same standards are applied to everyone.

Agreed. Everyone who might possibly be a muslim terrorist should be thoroughly screened to ensure they are not a muslim terrorist, so we can prevent the next hideous act of muslim terrorism by muslim terrorists.

4 posted on 05/31/2003 11:39:06 AM PDT by dagnabbit (Muslims: 5 percent of immigrants - 100 percent of terrorist immigrants.)
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To: Aaron_A
"If that person had been a Norwegian businessman, he wouldn't be in the trouble Mr. Karim is in,"

Of course Norwegian businessmen are not known for flying 737's into buildings, now are they.
5 posted on 05/31/2003 11:44:08 AM PDT by Kozak (" No mans life liberty or property is safe when the legislature is in session." Mark Twain)
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To: piasa; backhoe; RaceBannon
"First, Karim told FBI agents that he used the razor blades to shave the bottom of his full beard. Then he said they were for a friend in Houston named Mahmoud. Finally, he said he did not know the razor blades were in his bag."
6 posted on 05/31/2003 11:44:36 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Aaron_A
>>"It has been an ongoing concern that Muslims are singled out," (Ibrahim) Hooper (of CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations) said.

My full, frank comments on Mr. Hooper would likely get me banned, at least for a time.

>>"Our position is that they were hygiene items, not weapons," Brown (the perp's lawyer) said.

And that goes for Mr. Brown, as well. I don't normally conceal "hygiene items" in my belt.

This guy was testing the system. I compliment the TSA, which I don't often do.
7 posted on 05/31/2003 11:45:42 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster
Hmmm...did CAIR even read this article? Or is it the usual cair-spin-cycle as usual?...


"First, Karim told FBI agents that he used the razor blades to shave the bottom of his full beard. Then he said they were for a friend in Houston named Mahmoud. Finally, he said he did not know the razor blades were in his bag.

"This is the first case at D/FW, to my knowledge, where we found razor blades in carry-on luggage where there is no razor in the bag," Schattman said.

In addition, immigration inspectors discovered that Karim's claim that he was a tourist visiting friends in Houston for a couple of weeks was a lie. Immigration authorities found out that Karim, a Pakistani national with Canadian citizenship, had lived in Houston for three years and did not have a residence in another country.

He had a one-way, $3,069 ticket from Karachi, Pakistan, to Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, to Paris to D/FW and to Houston.

Schattman rejected any notions of ethnic profiling in the case. Since 9-11, though, aviation-safety cases are prosecuted more aggressively as a deterrent, Schattman said.

"If he had been Irish and Catholic, with the same set of circumstances, I believe we would have filed the same case and prosecuted it the same way," Schattman said."

8 posted on 05/31/2003 11:55:43 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Aaron_A
For Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations

Mr. Hooper is the guy who hmmm-and-hawed his "well, that just isn't going to happen..."
when radio show host Michael Medved asked Mr. Hooper if he wanted the USA
to be under Shari'a Law.

32 razors concealed in a belt in carry-on baggage, so of course they go into the
passenger cabin?

Looks like Flight 93 taught the Chicken-Shi-ite (and Chicken Sunni) little b@$tards
that you'll need more than four guys with razors/box-cutters to take
over a plane...
This was a test-run...and he found out it could be done on the other legs of his
multi-leg flight.

Now they know they can put up to 32 of their terrorist buddies on a fully-fueled
747 in Paris bound for the USA...maybe even divert it to England to take out the Parliament
building, Windsor Palace, or who knows what...
Bet there are PLENTY of fully-fueled 747s departing Paris during a week with
at least 32 Muslims aboard...they wouldn't stand out at all on one of those flights.

Those folks who say we're now in World War IV (the Cold War being WWIII) include the
recently-retired head of The Mossad.

The sooner we realize it's kill or be killed in many cases...the more likely we'll
survive/win and the sooner these medieval sadists can be retired to either
the most retrograde corners of their dusty squalid territories or to "paradise".
9 posted on 05/31/2003 11:57:42 AM PDT by VOA
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To: FreedomPoster
And what sort of "belt" was it.....? ....

With a handle and the double edged blades protruding....probably about 24 to 29 inches long....

sure could do a lot of damage close up in an aircraft weilding such a weapon

10 posted on 05/31/2003 11:58:43 AM PDT by spokeshave ( against dead wood (albore) Frogs & Rats)
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To: spokeshave
Especially among the unarmed peasants.
11 posted on 05/31/2003 12:01:02 PM PDT by FSPress
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To: spokeshave
I understand from sources that will not be identified
that a razor blade or two held flat between the fingers
and used in a slapping motion can be quite effective.
We used to tape a nickle to each side and throw them like
a shuriken.

This guy smells of fish, might want to test those blades for toxins too.
12 posted on 05/31/2003 12:09:58 PM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: Aaron_A
"The case is one in a long line of examples of U.S. authorities engaging in ethnic profiling of muslims"


Here's my version to this comment:

The case is one in a long line of examples of muslim terrorists engaging in ethnic cleansing of Jews.
13 posted on 05/31/2003 12:31:20 PM PDT by Arpege92
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To: Aaron_A
Maybe there's lots of these guys who "salt" blades throughout various planes. Then several terrorists could get on with homemade wood/plastic "handles" to make a fierce weapon. BTW - I don't buy ANY of his stories. Hope we hit him hard.



14 posted on 05/31/2003 12:56:21 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Support Our Troops! Screw France.)
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To: All
A couple of things;

- CAIR are a bunch of a&&holes.

- What is this guy doing with these blades? I don't think they are good for anything but shaving and looking at his picture...

- Are these the type of blades in question?

15 posted on 05/31/2003 1:00:58 PM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: Aaron_A
"It sounds odd that somebody up to no good would bring 32 razor blades, which would increase his chances of being detected, when all he needed was one razor blade if he wanted to do harm."
Why is anybody publishing Hooper's speculations as to motive? He is not defense counsel! But the question should be asked in court: Why 32 blades when these razors can be purchased easily in any pharmacy?
What was he doing in this country? Where are the INS charges against this guy?
Bury him deep in an Alaskan maximum security prison & deport his body back to wherever we send his wife and ALL his kids.
16 posted on 05/31/2003 1:21:33 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Aaron_A
Must be special blades, bringing them to a friend in Houston. Just can't buy that kind here I guess.
17 posted on 05/31/2003 1:29:04 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: weegee
Might I postulate that he was waiting for the blades to rust so he could make "crystal" radios?

Last time I was in Houston, I was dying from the heat and humidity. Probably going there to speed up the rusting process.

18 posted on 05/31/2003 1:57:43 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Aaron_A
Two scenarios fit.

1) He was depositing the blades in a series of planes for future terrorist attacks.

2) He was expecting 32 friends on the plane: Search the manifest.
19 posted on 05/31/2003 2:06:27 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Aaron_A
A jury convicted him May 22 of making false statements about his legal status and of carrying and attempting to carry concealed dangerous weapons in air transportation.

A spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations: The case is one in a long line of examples of U.S. authorities engaging in ethnic profiling of Muslims.

???

He broke the friggin law you nitwit.

20 posted on 05/31/2003 4:04:44 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: Aaron_A
the orders were to conceal them in a "hidden compartment" but he couldn't figure out how to take a seat if he did
21 posted on 05/31/2003 4:18:54 PM PDT by JesseShurun (The Hazzardous Duke)
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VOA's right about that- a security test. It would be quite a PR fete for the terrorists to hijack and take out even one plane after 911- in the eyes of the Islamofascist it would not be a come down from 911, but rather, a step up since in theory we're now "on guard." The need a "auccessful" high profile attack of this sort to recruit mmebers- and they dearly need to recruit these days. Their idea of success is much lower than ours, which makes their job easy.

"If that person had been a Norwegian businessman, he wouldn't be in the trouble Mr. Karim is in," Hooper said.

Oh, don't be so hasty. ansar al-Islam's Mullah Krekar is Norwegian and I wouldn't let him on a plane, either...

"It sounds odd that somebody up to no good would bring 32 razor blades, which would increase his chances of being detected, when all he needed was one razor blade if he wanted to do harm."

It seems odd to expect that a harmles person would need 32 razor blades, and if he was an honest person who had just goofed up, the razor blades would be in their original packaging and not hidden in a belt. Not to mention all the cock-and-bull stories the guy told about them. And why 32?

I'll tell you, Hooper, "why 32."

Whether this was a real effort to get on board to do harm or just a test, it's going to be much easier to slip enough razor blades for a team of terrorists through security if only one person gets on board. If security is randomly picking out people to search the chances of discovering one guy with 32 razor blades is much lower than catching several guys with their own razor blades. And after 911, the terrorists are going to need more people to control a flight than before in case there's some POPs* on board.

It also has the advantage, should the razor-blade bearer be caught trying to board, of letting the other cell members escape. Since they aren't carrying anything suspicious, it would be hard to come up with a pretext for detaining them. They live to terrorisze some other day.

Of course, if the terrorists can, they will use non-arabs to carry the blades, so as to avoid suspicion of there being more than one terrorist on board. In this respect if we profiled too much we would miss a Johnny bin-Walker cruising through.

* P#$$ed Off Patriots.

22 posted on 06/01/2003 1:52:39 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Aaron_A
First, Karim told FBI agents that he used the razor blades to shave the bottom of his full beard. Then he said they were for a friend in Houston named Mahmoud. Finally, he said he did not know the razor blades were in his bag.

I was going to use them to cut something. I mean, I wasn't going to use them, someone else was. I mean, I didn't even know I had them in my bag. I mean, err... what's a razor blade? I've never heard of such a thing. I don't know how I got my airline ticket, either. Why was I even at the airport? How can you prove I wanted to hijack a plane if you can't even prove why I wanted to go to the airport? Help, help, I'm being racially discriminated against!

23 posted on 06/01/2003 1:57:11 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: piasa
If it was a test it was an idiotic one. Not much imagination.
24 posted on 06/01/2003 2:00:03 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: piasa
It also has the advantage, should the razor-blade bearer be caught trying to board, of letting the other cell members escape. Since they aren't carrying anything suspicious, it would be hard to come up with a pretext for detaining them. They live to terrorisze some other day.

I'd be pretty sure that when a multiple weapon blockbuster like this turns up on a flight, every other passenger gets the triple scrutiny.

25 posted on 06/01/2003 2:04:33 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: dagnabbit
LOL!

My favorite line in the story was:
It has been an ongoing concern that Muslims are singled out," Hooper said.

LOL! Well, when an Irish Catholic plows into the Sears Tower, we'll start pulling all of them out of line, too.

Good grief! Did they like the Democrat solution better? To send them all to internment camps till the end of the war?

26 posted on 06/01/2003 3:09:09 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: The Red Zone
They might, but they're not going to be carrying anything and their IDs are kept clean. Triple scrutiny won't help if there's nothing to hold them on.
27 posted on 06/01/2003 3:09:16 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: weegee
Must be special blades, bringing them to a friend in Houston.

So, pack them in your checked luggage. That is a totally bogus argument.

28 posted on 06/01/2003 3:13:19 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: The Red Zone
Few of them have turned out to be very bright. And there's always freelancing wannabees- their hearts in jihad, their brains in grade school, not really involved in any terror group but just wanting to play along.

Even those are useful in keeping people nervous- there's no need to go for full-scale terrorism when you can hurt an industry by just putting out a little scare every so often.

The guy's not Joe Sixpack- he can't even keep his story straight on why he has 32 razor blades and no razor in his carryon baggage.

29 posted on 06/01/2003 3:16:49 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Maelstrom
Two scenarios fit.

Scenario 3 is more likely. Richard Reid traveled around the Middle East with his shoes in dry runs to see if they could be detected, before his handlers put in the fuses and put him on a plane headed for the U.S.

30 posted on 06/01/2003 3:16:59 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: piasa
They might, but they're not going to be carrying anything and their IDs are kept clean.

Well at least this wasn't the case in 9/11. Even if it was true that only one of the men per flight was the boxcutter-bearer, most of the others had visa violations.

31 posted on 06/01/2003 12:42:13 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: piasa
Well I can say one thing, even 32 razor blades will be no match now for a cabin full of enraged passengers.
32 posted on 06/01/2003 12:44:03 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Aaron_A
Has anyone ever heard of a Norweigan committing a terrorists act?
33 posted on 06/01/2003 12:51:14 PM PDT by blam
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To: tet68
I understand from sources that will not be identified that a razor blade or two held flat between the fingers and used in a slapping motion can be quite effective.

In the Pacific Islands, the islanders would make swords by embedding shark's teeth in a thin piece of wood

Take a pair of long, flat pieces of plastic, glue them together in the plane's toilet with the razor blades sandwiched between them, edges sticking out, and you have a moderately effective sword.

34 posted on 06/01/2003 12:57:29 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: Maelstrom
Bingo.

It can't be too hard to choose a "standard" location on all aircraft to hide blades which will not be noticed, but which can be found by future terrorists. Under the carpeting in the johns, behind fixtures, joints in trim, etc. Having one guy with an otherwise clean record make the deposits reduces the chances of discovery. On a trip with numerous connecting flights, blades can be dropped onto several aircraft and the frugal terrorist can even save money by buying tickets with numerous connections.

I hope they did check the other passengers to see if he had buddies.

35 posted on 07/16/2003 11:51:17 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: FreedomPoster
My full, frank comments on Mr. Hooper would likely get me banned, at least for a time.

It would probably be safe to say that Hooper is a slow-on-the-draw mouthy whiner that defends the Muslim position about as well as the Ratners defend libs.

36 posted on 07/17/2003 12:19:46 AM PDT by Dataman
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