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Rep. Tancredo: Patriot, Idiot or Just Plain Racist?
La Raza On Line ^
| 05/30/2003
| Sal Osio
Posted on 06/01/2003 2:08:34 PM PDT by One_American
U.S. Congressman Thomas Tancredo (R. CO) chairs the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus. He wants to investigate the banking industry and the U.S. Treasury Department for what he alleges are violations of the USA PATRIOT ACT. He claims that the acceptance of the Matricula Consular, the identification which is issued by the Government of Mexico to its citizens who live outside of Mexico, by the banking industry, despite authorization by the Treasury Department, will be in violation of Section 326 of the Patriot Act .
The Patriot Act regulations require that financial institutions implement reasonable procedures (1) to verify the identity of any person opening an account; (2) maintain records of the information used to verify the person's identity; and (3) determine whether the person appears on any list of known or suspected terrorists or terrorist organizations.
Is this man an overzealous patriot or a roaring idiot?
Under international law, adhered to by our country, the Mexican government has the absolute power and right to issue to its citizens any identification documentation it deems prudent. The Matricula Consular, identification, is the exercise of that right. Are you with us so far Rep. Tancredo? Or would you have us violate the fundamental law of nations regarding national sovereignty? After all, you may well reason: "We are bigger than they..."
The next logical step may be more difficult. A bank accepts the Matricula Consular, a passport, Visa or other authorized identification issued by a foreign government to its citizens, based on U.S. Treasury Department regulations authorizing the banking industry to accept such identification, in order to properly identify the person opening an account. Rep. Tancredo, is this were we part company? Would you like to restrict bank accounts to exclude foreigners? Why don't you say so? We'll remove a few hundred billion dollars from circulation. What do you think the consequences of your 'bright' strategy would be?
The second and third provisions, keeping a record of the identification and checking the terrorist records of the Office of Homeland Security are easy enough to understand and to observe. Right?
So, is Rep. Tancredo a dunce who just doesn't get it? Or is he an overzealous, misguided 'patriot,' who is attempting to capitalize on our current state of fear and anxiety as a result of our terrible loss of 9/11 in order to push his hidden agenda of discrimination, racism and hatred of our Southern neighbors? Does he expect fair minded Americans with common sense to interpret the Patriot Act, which is designed to protect us from terrorism, to apply to the acceptance of a Matricula Consular as one form of identification to open a bank account?
If one examines the Congressman's record, his statements and conduct, the only reasonable conclusion one reaches is that he is a lucid but fanatic racist. He claims that undocumented workers from our southern borders are 'terrorists' and an imminent threat to our national security. So, is he a misguided patriot, a confused idiot or just an Un-American racist?
Sal Osio
Chairman of the Board/President of HispanicVista.com
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: illegalimmigration; laraza; matricula; tancredo
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From where I sit, Tom Tancredo is a patriot.
To: One_American
they can issue all the cards that they want, but i say no one should accept them.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:10:31 PM PDT
by
liberalnot
(what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
To: One_American
Patriot.
3
posted on
06/01/2003 2:11:08 PM PDT
by
clockwork
To: One_American
He's the only one in the government willing to address the illegal immigration problem head-on.
What the heck is the matter with all the rest of them,are they afraid they'll lose a few Hispanic votes?
4
posted on
06/01/2003 2:12:46 PM PDT
by
Mears
(.)
To: One_American
...Tom Tancredo is a patriot....and also a great presidential candidate for 2008!
5
posted on
06/01/2003 2:12:55 PM PDT
by
LuisBasco
To: One_American
Patriot.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:13:16 PM PDT
by
sarcasm
(Tancredo 2004)
To: One_American
a laraza article talking about "...regarding national sovereignty". what a freakin joke. laraza is nothing but a ethnic supremacist group actively pursuing an agenda to undermine American sovereignty.
To: One_American
patriot
To: One_American
I think Tom Tancredo is a patriot as well. I think the Mexican government needs to get a grip on how much we resent them encouraging their citizens to come to our country. Heck! We'd all move to Mexico..if it was worth anything. It isn't. So? Stay home and leave us alone.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:17:58 PM PDT
by
MoJo2001
To: One_American
Patriot.
To: Texas_Jarhead
"laraza is nothing but a ethnic supremacist group actively pursuing an agenda to undermine American sovereignty"
Exactly! SO - anyone that LaRaza criticizes HAS to be a good guy. Tancredo is the only one in Washington (the whole country?) who tells it like it is. I would vote for him in a second if he were a candidate for anything. He is a man of principle and one who loves this country. Too bad there are so many of the other kind in elected office. Illegal immigration is a time bomb - in my opinion.
To: One_American
patriot, GW, listen to this man!
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:21:25 PM PDT
by
votelife
(FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
To: One_American
One more vote for patriot.
la raza: the Klan with a tan
To: One_American
To: One_American
Are you with us so far Rep. Tancredo? Or would you have us violate the fundamental law of nations regarding national sovereignty? The author lost the argument right here.

The bombing starts in five minutes.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:25:05 PM PDT
by
rdb3
(Nerve-racking since 0413hrs on XII-XXII-MCMLXXI)
To: Mears
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:28:49 PM PDT
by
Remedy
To: One_American
The answer is obvious. Tancredo is a racist. Now please continue invading our country with thousands and thousands of illegals, er, "undocumented workers" that us stupid taxpayers can continue to pay for with our tax money for their schooling, medical care, housing, legal aid services, etc. etc. etc. Remember, if you complain, you are automatically a racist!
I wonder how long before some entrepeneur starts up an "Instant Hispanic" web site, selling skin dyes and "Spanish for Beginners" books, and advising people how to pretend to be an illegal alien. Why pay for things like hospital bills when you can get all the care you want for free? Just say "No habla ingles, illegal" when they ask who you are. Bingo! Free goodies for everyone!
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:29:22 PM PDT
by
Billy_bob_bob
("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
To: MoJo2001
Considering how stictly the Mexicans control THEIR southern border by issuing their military to patrol it, I find it highly hypocritical and racist that LaRaza and their ilk should consider it inappropriate for America to take all reasonable measures to maintain our own national sovereignty.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:35:13 PM PDT
by
Tamar1973
("He who is compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate." Chazal,Jewish sage)
To: One_American
He is a Patriot.
Hopefully, he'll run in 2004 for President, but I doubt it.
I'd like to see us send Mexico a bill for all the money we spend providing services to their illegals.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:37:27 PM PDT
by
Mulder
(Live Free or die)
To: Tancredo Fan
PING.
To: Tamar1973
I get into this argument with my friend all the time. She believes that Mexicans have a right to come over. (She's of Mexican descent) She doesn't like the "vigilantes" at the border. So? I told her that if I lived at the border..I would proudly take up arms as well. They are not Americans and are merely a drain on our system. We have enough needy and inept people. Please NO MORE! Stop the MADNESS already!
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:38:51 PM PDT
by
MoJo2001
To: One_American
Patriot
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:39:41 PM PDT
by
firewalk
To: LuisBasco
...Tom Tancredo is a patriot.
...and also a great presidential candidate for 2008!
I'll be voting Ron Paul/Tom Tancredo in 2004!
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:44:12 PM PDT
by
WhiteGuy
(MY VOTE IS FOR SALE)
To: One_American
Yeah, Patriot.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:45:09 PM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: WhiteGuy
Me too, if that ticket is offered!
I'll financially support such a ticket!
To: LuisBasco
Thats my vote regardless.......................
I'll write it in if necessary.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:51:25 PM PDT
by
WhiteGuy
(MY VOTE IS FOR SALE)
To: One_American
http://www.hispanicvista.com/html13/051903sosio.htm
Dear Mr. President
By Sal Osio
Post9/11 and the recent Iraqi conflict have distracted your administration from a constructive agenda aimed at bonding with the Mexican-American community as well as our Mexican neighbors. More distressing is the recent treatment of our community such as the petty indifference to the Cinco de Mayo White House traditional celebration-a somewhat immature chastisement for Mexico's stand on its principle of non-intervention. Have we forgotten Benito Juarez' doctrine: "Respect for your neighbor's rights, is the (basis for) peace?"
HA HA HA HA HA HA
To: One_American
Patriot.
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:07:24 PM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: madfly
ping
To: WhiteGuy
I'll write it in if necessary.Have to admit I haven't looked that much into Tancredo even though I've seen enough articles about him. But I agree with you. I'm half a mind to write Ron Paul's name in if I have to
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:12:09 PM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: One_American
Who's doing the trash-talkin'??
'La Raza online'??Yeah -- they've got some real cred (barf). Why don't we merely ask 'ACT UP' for their irrelevant opinion of Rick Santorum while we're at it?
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:12:48 PM PDT
by
F16Fighter
(Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
To: One_American
Sal Osio
Attorney at Law
Sal was born in Los Angeles, California on February 22, 1938. His mother, Laura Alvarez Morphy, born in Mexico, is the grand daughter of a former Trade Commissioner from England to Mexico. She subsequently became Consul of Mexico in Los Angeles (1955-65) and, thereafter, a Minister of Mexico in the Diplomatic Corps. His father, Patrick Osio Eisenmann, was a descendant of early California, Spanish and Mexican families, including a co-founder of the port of Monterey. His mother was from Berlin. Patrick, Sr. was a Realtor in Santa Monica, California.
Although his early schooling was concentrated in California, he also attended elementary schools in Mexico City, where he became fluent in Spanish. He graduated from Los Angeles High School in 1956 as its Student Body President. Thereafter, he attended the University of Southern California on a scholastic scholarship and graduated from the School of Letters Arts and Sciences, major in Economics, and from the U.S.C. School of Law as a Juris Doctor (1962). At which time he was admitted to the California State Bar and remains an Active Member.
His primary interests have been in international investment banking and finance with a concentration in U.S. and Mexico opportunities. In the early 70s he was the Managing Director of a joint venture between Crocker Land of San Francisco, U.S. Guaranty (NYSE) and Banco de Comercio, headquartered in Mexico City. He coordinated the plan to develop Baja California during the administration of Mexican President Luis Echeveria Alvarez. During his assignment in Mexico he financed the development of various real estate ventures.
He is associated with Hispanic Corporation of America (HCA), a boutique investment banking firm based in Nevada, which concentrates on U.S. Hispanic market business opportunities. The primary focus has been in technology, telecommunications, insurance, financing, real estate and media. He serves as Chairman of the Board of HispanicVista.com, the premier U.S. Hispanic new media company, in which his brother Patrick, Jr. is the Managing Editor, and is a director in various companies in which HCA has an investment. He is also associated with an international group with offices in New York, Buenos Aires and Mexico City, specializing in business consultancy and finance.
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:22:15 PM PDT
by
sarcasm
(Tancredo 2004)
To: One_American
This article came from LaRaza. What do you think?
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:23:46 PM PDT
by
freekitty
(W)
To: MoJo2001
We'd all move to Mexico..if it was worth anything. It isn't. No you wouldn't. Mexico has strict fianancial requirements for immigrants and those seeking permanent residency. No dinero, no residency.
I would however distinguish between the Mexican government, the country of Mexico, and the Mexican people. They've got some might pretty places, and the people tend to be pretty friendly. They are terrible at picking their government though...OTOH, we haven't done so well at times ourselves. Think not only '92, but '96 when we sure as hell knew better. Or think California at the state level, for longer thatn I care to think about. It's not just the hispanic influx either, Texas has that too, but we elected George Bush governor, twice, and we have two Republicans in our Senate delegation, as well as Republicans in all, repeat all, statewide elected offices.
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:26:26 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: One_American
Sal Osio Chairman of the Board/President of HispanicVista.comIsn't it ironic. Racist (LaRaza and allies) accusing someone else of racism.
I say Tancredo is a patriot. I would think he would make a better "House Speaker" than president. Seems more realistic.
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:32:56 PM PDT
by
Missouri
To: Marine Inspector
Thanks for the ping. I think the invaders and their enablers (like this low-life Osio and his 'Hispanic Vista' website) are a bit concerned their RACIST! RACIST! rants are now falling on deaf ears.... especially given the fact that the moochers they so adore have decimated nearly every state they've invaded in large numbers. California is a fine example of that. Illegals aren't a 'race', but they are a large group of criminals who need to be ferreted out and ejected.
To: MoJo2001
She believes that Mexicans have a right to come over.+++
Most interesting. But why she thinks that way?
I red on other thread one mexican woman told about recent incendent with 19 illegal died. "How many deads America waits until she opens doors" I was stunned with that logic.
She think that America HAS to open doors for illegal! But I don't understand why?
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:41:37 PM PDT
by
RusIvan
To: One_American
That La Raza ("The Race") would criticize Tancredo on grounds of "national sovereignty" is absurd, because they think America has no right to seal its borders.
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:43:38 PM PDT
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: One_American
A well-informed and courageous patriot. Ms. BabOso is a turd-world racist low-life.
To: Tancredo Fan
But right now they wining. Read this:
MIGRANTS SUE PARAMILITARY GROUP AND RANCHER FOR UNLAWFUL VIOLENT ASSAULTS ON TEXAS RANCH
May 29, 2003
(Hebbronville, Texas -- May 29, 2003). A civil suit is being filed in Hebbronville, Texas today against Ranch Rescue, its national spokesman Jack Foote, Jim Hogg County ranch owner Joseph Sutton, and others, by a group of migrants who claim that they were violently assaulted, falsely imprisoned and threatened with death. The suit seeks money damages.
The complaint claims that the Ranch Rescue group, under the leadership of Jack Foote and motivated by race, operates as an illegal vigilante paramilitary gang that used the Sutton Ranch to intimidate migrant travelers and to assault them. Members of the paramilitary group were also apparent opportunists robbing the immigrants of cash after assaulting them.
The lawsuit represents five men and one woman who were traveling on foot through Jim Hogg County in March of this year. After they were found by Ranch Rescue on the Sutton Ranch, the Ranch Rescue members chased them, surrounded them, pointed weapons at them, unlawfully detained them and assaulted them. Sutton later threatened to kill them before four of them were forced at gunpoint to walk barefoot through cactus and rattlesnake-infected country.
Two of the named defendants, Henry Mark Conner, Jr., of Louisiana and Casey James Nethercott of California, were investigated by the Texas Rangers and arrested by Jim Hogg County law enforcement officers, and face serious criminal charges.
Ranch Rescues actions have been denounced by local law enforcement agencies, including the Texas Rangers, the Jim Hogg County Sheriff, the District Attorney for the 229th District in Texas, and the Border Patrol in Laredo. Pistol whipping illegal aliens and siccing dogs on them is not something thats going to be tolerated in this country, said Doyle Holdridge, Texas Ranger for the Laredo sector, to the San Antonio Express News in a story of March 22, 2003.
The bottom line of our suit is to protect the most vulnerable and worthy of people, impoverished migrants traveling hundreds of miles on foot across harsh terrain to feed their families. Jack Foote, Joe Sutton, and Ranch Rescue will have to answer to a Hebbronville jury for these violent acts, said Ricardo de Anda, lead trial counsel for the plaintiffs.
The actions of Ranch Rescue and its volunteers are very similar to other hate groups that we have sued in the past, said Morris Dees, chief trial counsel of the Southern Poverty Law Center. We see this as an important case to stop this violent paramilitary activity along our borders with Mexico. If these groups and the ranchers who conspire with them have to pay through their pockets, they will think twice before attacking innocent and peaceful migrants.
Joe Berra, attorney with MALDEFs San Antonio office and counsel in the case, added This is an affront to all Latinos. The communities of South Texas do not want illegal paramilitaries operating in their midst.
The lawsuit, Leiva et al. V. Ranch Rescue et al., was filed on the plaintiffs behalf by the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the law firms of Ricardo de Anda of Laredo, and Judge & Brim, P.C. of Austin.
MALDEF is a national nonprofit organization, that promotes and protects the rights of Latinos through advocacy, community education and outreach, leadership development, higher education scholarships and when necessary, through the legal system. It has obtained many victories in court in support of the civil rights of Latinos and minorities over past the 35 years of existence.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is a nonprofit civil rights group based in Montgomery, Alabama. It has represented victims of hate group violence for over 20 years. In 1981, it enjoined the Texas Knights of the Ku Klux Klan on behalf of Vietnamese Fishermen seeking to fish in Galveston Bay, Texas. In 1987, it obtained a $7 million judgment that bankrupted the United Klans of America for the lynching of a black youth in Mobile. In 2001, it obtained a $6 million judgment against the Idaho-based Aryan Nations for a violent assault by the groups paramilitary guards against two innocent Idaho citizens. The Center charges nothing for its legal assistance, pays all litigation expenses and allows its clients to keep all funds recovered. The Center is supported by the contributions of over 250,000 donors across the nation.
The de Anda Law Firm and the firm of Judge & Brim, P.C. are plaintiff firms with extensive experience in trial work in South Texas.
# # #
http://www.maldef.org/news/press.cfm?ID=161
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posted on
06/01/2003 3:50:50 PM PDT
by
RusIvan
To: One_American
From where I sit, Tom Tancredo is a patriot. I love the man, but when it comes to this issue, BUSH is an idiot.
To: One_American
Rep. Tancredo: Patriot, Idiot or Just Plain Racist? The fact that this question is being posted by a group calling itself "The Race" makes this question all the more poignant.
Is Tancredo as racist as they are? Hard to imagine him being that extreme.
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posted on
06/01/2003 4:06:33 PM PDT
by
Imal
(Don't believe anything you read.)
To: One_American
Rep. Tancredo: Patriot, Idiot or Just Plain Racist? The fact that this question is being posted by a group calling itself "The Race" makes this question all the more poignant.
Is Tancredo as racist as they are? Hard to imagine him being that extreme.
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posted on
06/01/2003 4:06:34 PM PDT
by
Imal
(Don't believe anything you read.)
To: One_American
Ditto!
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posted on
06/01/2003 4:08:32 PM PDT
by
gunnedah
To: One_American
Ditto!
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posted on
06/01/2003 4:08:33 PM PDT
by
gunnedah
To: One_American
This is really ironic since it comes from "The Race" Online (La Raza Online) and "The Race" Newspapers (La Raza Newspapers). Fanatic racists attacking Rep. Tancredo as a racist - ludicrous!
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posted on
06/01/2003 4:12:25 PM PDT
by
Spiff
To: One_American
The author of this crap sounds like he stepped right out of the DU. What an idiot. Of course Mexico can issue whatever ID they want. It doesn't mean that we have to accept it. And even if it is accepted for banking purposes, it certainly should not be accepted for other purposes such as obtaining a drivers license.
It is absolutely ridiculous to imply that the congressman is a racist just because he wants to protect our country from being overrun by foreign invaders, of any color, who have absolutely no legal right to be here. Judging by the source of the article, it would not surprise me if the author himself fell into that category.
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posted on
06/01/2003 4:14:28 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: ImpotentRage
"Tancredo is the only man in Washington who tells it like it is. I would vote for him in a second if he were a candidate for anything"
While I admire the man immensely, he will not get anywhere. The elite classes in this country view mass immigration as an absolutely vital policy. The economic elites count on it to hold down working class wage rates, and the political elites are counting on it to transform the american electorate into a big government-friendly one (instead of the current white middle class in fly-over country who insist on crazy things like limited government and low taxes).
Tancredo will get no money to run for anything. His media coverage will be pure spiteful propaganda. While I share your enthusiasm for his ideas, the situation in this country has detriorated too far to turn back now.
To: One_American
Go to the link for this story at La Raza Online and you can post your opinion. Looks like the racists at La Raza need some freepin'.
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posted on
06/01/2003 4:16:42 PM PDT
by
Spiff
To: One_American
While it's true that sovereign governments can issue identity papers for its citizens, the accepted document issued by civilized and well-ordered governments not steeped in corruption and violence is to issue passports. The issuance of passports typically precedes the journey to a foreign country (as opposed to being issued at a consulate in the foreign country, post arrival). The passport and visa are intended to indicate compliance with international law, not an attempt to circumvent the laws of the sovereign foreign nation one has illegally entered.
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