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Lessons in how to make $43 trillion disappear
Houston Chronical ^ | June 1, 2003 | SCOTT BURNS

Posted on 06/01/2003 9:27:17 PM PDT by lewislynn

June 1, 2003, 7:13PM

Lessons in how to make $43 trillion disappear

By SCOTT BURNS
Universal Press Syndicate

ON Friday, May 16, the word was out. A $350 billion tax cut was a done deal.

So why did the stock market sink that day? Why did it plunge the following Monday, losing 2.5 percent of its value?

One possible explanation is Treasury Secretary John Snow and his comments on the dollar. Another is concern about new terrorist attacks. But let me suggest a third possibility. Despite efforts to suppress it, word is getting around we can't afford a tax cut.

The story starts one night in January, only days after Treasury Secretary Snow had replaced Paul O'Neill. A cell phone rang as two men were leaving a restaurant in Santa Fe, N.M. The caller told Boston University economist Laurence Kotlikoff that six months of work by two economists was going to be deleted from the president's budget. The budget was due to be published in February. I know this happened because I was the second man: Kotlikoff was in Santa Fe working on a book project with me.

The material to be deleted from the budget document was an updating of generational accounting. O'Neill had requested an estimate of the government's true long-term obligations.

The estimate would include the formal debt of the U.S. Treasury plus equally serious government promises to provide retirement income and medical care. (Readers who think promises of Social Security and Medicare aren't as serious as U.S. Treasury bond promises should visit the nearest elderly person.)

The resulting information might easily have been lost in a document whose online girth is measured in megabytes.

Except for one thing.

The new accounting shows the United States is broke.

It shows the true obligations of government were 10 times larger than Treasury debt held by the public. It shows the present value of these unfunded obligations is a mind-numbing $43 trillion.

In a recent telephone conversation I asked one of the project economists, Jagadeesh Gokhale, why he thought his work was cut. Gokhale, a senior economist for the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, was circumspect. He suggested the figures were a surprise to the new Treasury secretary.

Here's another interpretation: Snow's first task was to sell the president's tax cut. The sales job would be awkward if an official government document announced we were already $43 trillion in the hole.

The Federal Reserve, by the way, recently put the net worth of all households at $39 trillion. This problem goes way beyond taxing the rich, the poor or the middle class.

So the generational accounting figures disappeared from the budget.

But they did not cease to exist. In early March the other economist on the project, Kent Smetters, testified before the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the United States in the House of Representatives. Smetters, an expert in Social Security and Medicare, is at the Wharton School in Philadelphia.

Asked to comment on the Balanced Budget Amendment, Smetters was direct, saying, "I support practically any effort to make it harder for one generation to pass large fiscal burdens to future generations ... ."

Unfortunately, he noted, government cash accounting is a poor basis for a Balanced Budget Amendment. "The government reports that the national debt in 2003 was about $3.8 trillion in the form of government `debt held by the public.' But that number ignores massive imbalances in Medicare and Social Security programs and the government's other programs.

"When the liabilities associated with those programs are taken into account, the nation's fiscal policy is currently off-balance by over $43.4 trillion in present value, a number that is not reported in standard budget documents," he said (italics added).

The American Enterprise Institute will soon publish a pamphlet, co-authored by Jagadeesh Gokhale and Kent Smetters. The draft copy does more than lay out the size of the government's unfunded liabilities. It shows how much the current generation is benefiting at the expense of the next.

It shows, for instance, that past and current generations of Social Security recipients will receive $8.7 trillion more in benefits than they will pay in employment taxes.

Republicans and Democrats have distracted us with unending battles between haves and have-nots for decades. Over the same period they have bankrupted the country.

Perhaps that terror, not the terrorism of al-Qaida or currency traders, may explain the odd market decline after a tax cut that was supposed to make stocks soar.

Questions about personal finance and investments may be sent to Scott Burns, P.O. Box 655237, Dallas 75265; e-mail can be sent to scott@scottburns.com. Burns' Web page is www.scottburns.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 44trilliondeficit

1 posted on 06/01/2003 9:27:18 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: lewislynn
The new accounting shows the United States is broke.

I just skimmed this on my way to bed, but that line caught my eye. It is actually old accounting, ask Jim Traficant. I don't have it handy, but he said the same thing on the floor of the House years ago.

2 posted on 06/01/2003 9:33:07 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: lewislynn
Despite efforts to suppress it, word is getting around we can't afford a tax cut.

Then cut spending.

3 posted on 06/01/2003 9:36:46 PM PDT by jimkress
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To: lewislynn
bump
4 posted on 06/01/2003 9:37:51 PM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: lewislynn
Is this for real? Or is this tin-foil hat stuff?
5 posted on 06/01/2003 9:41:01 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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To: lewislynn
The U.S. government has been broke at least 70 years. The liberals know this, but they never mention it except to argue that being broke is a good reason for the government to spend more.
6 posted on 06/01/2003 9:48:06 PM PDT by T'wit
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To: lewislynn
If you figure there are one hundred one dollar bills in one centimeter, that amount of money would make a stack 4.3 million kilometers high.
7 posted on 06/01/2003 9:49:32 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: lewislynn
ON Friday, May 16, the word was out. A $350 billion tax cut was a done deal.

Oh wise liberal, then why did the stock market go up for the next five days?

A one day trend is meaningless. The Government spends too much money and a small sliver of it is coming back to be spent by us.
8 posted on 06/01/2003 9:55:17 PM PDT by Joe_October (It's the Slogans .... Stupid)
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To: StriperSniper
...ask Jim Traficant...he said the same thing on the floor of the House years ago.

"Mr. Speaker, the trade deficit is at $10 billion a week, $40 billion a month, a half trillion dollars a year. Unbelievable. Japan continues to take $60 billion out of our economy a year, and China is now taking over $100 billion a year out of America, and both Japan and China continue to keep American products out. Now, if that is not enough to neuter your dragon, China has missiles pointed at us. Beam me up. A Nation that buys more than they sell will go bankrupt, and a Nation that allows illegal trade destroys all American industry. I yield back the bankruptcy of America's steel industry. Day after day the filings continue to mount up." -- Traficant, 2-7-01

For other Traficant gems, see the following threads:

James Traficant's One-Minute Speeches, 1998

James Traficant's One-Minute Speeches, 2001

James Traficant's One-Minute Speeches, 2000

9 posted on 06/01/2003 10:07:55 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Is this for real? Or is this tin-foil hat stuff?

This is real. Our fiat currency has no value. None. It is a paper promissory note against the real assets of the United States. But those assets are already totally encumbered by "unearned benefits".

Unearned benefits (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, etc.) are already bankrupt massive Ponzi schemes. Because the world's financial system is pegged to the stability of the US Dollar and the US Dollar has no worth, the entire world financial system is a house of cards.

All of this will cause a massive world-wide financial meltdown. It will be triggered by something that causes a loss of confidence in our fiat money (US Dollars).

When, not if, this loss of confidence occurs, the house of cards will come tumbling down.

Think this is unduly alarmist? This is exactly what happened when the Japanese bubble burst. It's currency was backed up by hyper-inflated real-estate prices in Japan. Reality set in and their currency imploded.

10 posted on 06/01/2003 10:08:40 PM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: StriperSniper
gee, we can't be broke cuz' there are taxpayers out there with money.....
11 posted on 06/01/2003 10:28:19 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: lewislynn
wow,what i could do with 43 trillion dollars...my dvd collection would be the envy of everyone not to mention the 3,000 cars i'd buy and to think all that extra cash in a money account that would earn me 5% [and who cares if its only 5%]it would still be massive amounts of money that i could spend
12 posted on 06/01/2003 10:32:12 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: jimkress
even the mob can't get rid of that much money as fast as the liberals seem to be able to...
13 posted on 06/01/2003 10:33:05 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: DakotaGator
Well, the Japanese situation is a h*lluva lot more complex than you indicate, but you are exactly right about bankrupt Ponzi schemes (and the so-called prescription-drug benefit will be another classic, right out of the same play book).

Not that any pol WANTS a solution (think about it), but the solution(s) are fairly straightforward, if someone cares to implement them.

Raise SS eligibility age by 4 months for each passing year until it reaches 72. No early eligibility -- phase it out over 5 years. Phase the COLA out over 5 to 10 years. Cease SSDI benefits for dopers and alcoholics immediately (or as fast as possible). Cease this idiocy of SS 'crazy checks' for children being treated for the (highly overdiagnosed) ADD and ADHD 'syndromes', and related scams.

Make the welfare reforms of 1995-1996 permanent. Install rigourous rules concerning identifying the fathers of children born out of wedlock that would otherwise qualify for a subsidy, including mandatory DNA testing. No tickee, no shirtee. Yes, tickee, then daddy goes to work on a non-optional basis. There are lots of streets that need sweeping, among numerous other tasks.

Prosecute ALL Medicaid fraud, including jailing doctors who participate, and revoking their license to practice -- and make them pay restitution.

Ultimately, of course, the way to get American health care back on track is to reverse the 'insurance' based nature of the system back toward the grocery shopping model (what was the last time either the gov't or an insurance company bought your bananas, right?)

OK, site trolls and other big gov't types, flame away.

14 posted on 06/01/2003 10:37:02 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: lewislynn
how to make $43 trillion disappear

Ahh, buy a restaurant?

Buy a boat?

Get married?

15 posted on 06/01/2003 10:49:55 PM PDT by paul51
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To: paul51
how to make $43 trillion disappear

How much time do I have? :-)

16 posted on 06/01/2003 11:00:21 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: lewislynn
Here's another interpretation: Snow's first task was to sell the president's tax cut. The sales job would be awkward if an official government document announced we were already $43 trillion in the hole.

The Federal Reserve, by the way, recently put the net worth of all households at $39 trillion. This problem goes way beyond taxing the rich, the poor or the middle class.

All the land, natural resources, and water rights the government owns isn't enough to collateralise the government debt, that is why they are so busy regulating people off their land, then confiscating it.

17 posted on 06/01/2003 11:17:02 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: lewislynn
"...we can't afford a tax cut..."

That's hilarious. I can't afford not to be robbed blind. Gotta love this guy.

18 posted on 06/01/2003 11:31:10 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: lewislynn
Despite efforts to suppress it, word is getting around we can't afford a tax cut.

That's about the worst suppression effort I have ever witnessed then, because the phrase "we can't afford a tax cut" is being echoes by everyone even remotely connected to the Demoratic Party.

This apparently includes the author of the screed in question, who is spewing the Demoratic Party line like a poorly trained parrot.

19 posted on 06/02/2003 12:25:20 AM PDT by Imal (If I had a dime for every time Bush's critics were right about him, I'd need to borrow a dime.)
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To: SAJ
I'm 29, due for retirement right around the time Social Security will start to fail.

This prescription drug benefit thing scares the hell outta me. I'm afraid Bush is actually going to go along with it. Unless they can reform SS somehow, in 20 years, if they have this drug benefit, they'll need to start drawing massively from the general fund to cover the obligations. Say hello to higher taxes when that happens.

So far both parties have been kicking the can down the road for at least the last 10 years.
20 posted on 06/02/2003 12:40:14 AM PDT by mikenola
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To: lewislynn
The democrats have learned that jacking-up the national debt it a great way to make an excuse on not having anymore tax cuts. But they don't release that by doing this they are hastening this country's collapse. Which will cause them to lose all their political power.

Which to be honest is very funny and ironic.

21 posted on 06/02/2003 12:51:53 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: mikenola
Sadly, right you are.

Don't know what to tell you, except that I'm 52 and saving every dime I can sock away. You've got a nice head start there, at least.

Your point about taxes is true, sort of, but there is NO possible fix for any of this by raising taxes; the levels that taxation would have to reach, likely 70%+ to fund all these 'benefits' properly, is so unacceptable that no politician, not even the most socialist, dares mention it. The only way out, under any circumstance short of revolution, is 'benefit' reduction and deferral -- because, as ever with politicians, wants have replaced needs, and wants are infinite, quite impossible to grant.

But, that inconvenient fact won't prevent the sorry SOBs from trying, even to the point of destroying the economy more or less permanently.

FReegards!

22 posted on 06/02/2003 1:18:32 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: lewislynn

WE CAN'T AFFORD A TAX CUT? WE CAN'T AFFORD A TAX CUT? WHO THE HELL IS WE?


23 posted on 06/02/2003 1:34:09 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: fishbabe
even the mob can't get rid of that much money as fast as the liberals seem to be able to...

By "liberals", I guess you meant to include the bush admin (Since that's who is in power these day's)? It's spot on if that's what you intended. Blackbird.

24 posted on 06/02/2003 1:41:53 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: SAJ
Flame away? I want to vote for you.
25 posted on 06/02/2003 2:43:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: fishbabe
fishbabe: even the mob can't get rid of that much money as fast as the liberals seem to be able to...

You're a real comic, fishbabe. Republicans in charge of both houses and the presidency, spending like drunken sailors (no offense to the navy, please, comparing them to that bunch), earmarking a billion here, 500 million there, just like the Dems used to, only ten times as much. White House flacks out by the dozens, on every talking head show, saying "400 billion deficit?, oh gosh, we need that. Even 600 billion isn't really that much, really, gosh, golly!!" I can imagine that Ross Perot is literally all ears by now. Bush pushes an 80 bill farm bill last year that was the porkiest to waddle its way down the pike yet. Hasn't vetoed a single pile of putrid pork. And you are blaming the spending spree on liberals??? God, I'm going to bust out my stitches.
--Raoul

26 posted on 06/02/2003 3:00:59 AM PDT by RDangerfield
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To: Fraulein
Danke!
27 posted on 06/02/2003 7:04:58 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: Fraulein
A Nation that buys more than they sell will go bankrupt.....

OH?

And just WHAT do those other countries DO with all that money we send them in exchange for goods? Burn it? Bury it in a hole?

NO!

They SPEND IT!

28 posted on 06/02/2003 7:14:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you read - ESPECIALLY *** ones)
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To: RDangerfield
your right.....the republicans are spending like drunken sailors...i guess the liberal tax and spend virus got to them....and please don't bust too many stitches,you know how expensive the doctors bill will be to patch you up.
29 posted on 06/02/2003 7:37:03 AM PDT by fishbabe
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To: DakotaGator
Many alarmists talking about the Japanesse bubble, forget that the biggest Japanesse companies like Toyota and Honda keep getting bigger market shares, that life in Tokyo is still as expensive as it was five years ago and the only real problem is that the banks can't write off bad loans, fail like our S&L's did in the eighties and move on to a correct banking and accounting program.

Mark Steyn had a similar story about the bad days in Iraq with lots of food in stores, water and gasoline available, but the JB journalists did all their talking to OXFAM instead of going to the source. Steyn said, that life was much better than reported in the paper.

Scott Burns has taken himself too seriously and went from financial advice giver to political advice giver. He should stick with his job classification.

30 posted on 06/02/2003 7:46:17 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Caipirabob; SAJ
I'll second that motion!
31 posted on 06/02/2003 3:54:56 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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To: SAJ
I'd vote for you!!

Freeze spending at current levels until the government consumes less than 2% of the economy. It may take decades to get there, but it's got to be done.
32 posted on 06/02/2003 4:09:06 PM PDT by listenhillary
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Is this for real? Or is this tin-foil hat stuff?

Well, the economics are out of my league, but I'm given to understand that it is real. Dubya may be suppressing this now, to get the tax cut through, but the time will come to bang the drum when social security reform is up.

And get this: The United States is probably in the best shape of any Western, developed nation as far as retirement funding. In Western Europe (save Britain) the situation is much, much worse. There have already been riots in Europe over labor reform. Wait till the pension problem really hits. The Euro-weanie-socialists running the show won't have the gonads to fix the problem, and won't face up to it until it is beyond fixing (if it is not already). They will inevitably temporize and fence straddle. They will BOTH raise taxes drastically on workers AND cut benefits on retirees and other social dependents. It ain't gonna be pretty.

33 posted on 06/02/2003 4:55:18 PM PDT by Stultis
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