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The Meaning of the Boy Scout Oath

On my honor . . . By giving your word, you are promising to be guided by the ideals of the Scout Oath.

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. . . I will do my best . . . Try hard to live up to the points of the Scout Oath. Measure your achievements against your own high standards and don't be influenced by peer pressure or what other people do.

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. . . To do my duty to God . . . Your family and religious leaders teach you about God and the ways you can serve. You do your duty to God by following the wisdom of those teachings every day and by respecting and defending the rights of others to practice their own beliefs.

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. . . and my country . . . Help keep the United States a strong and fair nation by learning about our system of government and your responsibilities as a citizen and future voter.

America is made up of countless families and communities. When you work to improve your community and your home, you are serving your country. Natural resources are another important part of America's heritage worthy of your efforts to understand, protect, and use wisely. What you do can make a real difference.

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. . . and to obey the Scout Law; . . . The twelve points of the Scout Law are guidelines that can lead you toward wise choices. When you obey the Scout Law, other people will respect you for the way you live, and you will respect yourself.

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. . . To help other people at all times; . . . There are many people who need you. Your cheerful smile and helping hand will ease the burden of many who need assistance. By helping out whenever possible, you are doing your part to make this a better world.

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. . . To keep myself physically strong, . . . Take care of your body so that it will serve you well for an entire lifetime. That means eating nutritious foods, getting enough sleep, and exercising regularly to build strength and endurance. it also means avoiding harmful drugs, alcohol, tobacco, and anything else that can harm your health.

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. . . mentally awake, . . . Develop your mind both in the classroom and outside of school. Be curious about everything around you, and work hard to make the most of your abilities. With an inquiring attitude and the willingness to ask questions, you can learn much about the exciting world around you and your role in it.

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. . . and morally straight. To be a person of strong character, your relationships with others should be honest and open. You should respect and defend the rights of all people. Be clean in your speech and actions, and remain faithful in your religious beliefs. The values you practice as a Scout will help you shape a life of virtue and self-reliance.

1 posted on 06/02/2003 6:39:41 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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The least they can do now is to provide condoms in very scouts' kit.
2 posted on 06/02/2003 6:41:28 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: fight_truth_decay
scouts
3 posted on 06/02/2003 6:48:31 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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Guess they'd seen the movie Philadelphia one too many times.
4 posted on 06/02/2003 6:49:32 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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Furthermore, the BSA national office must entirely disconnect itself from the Philadelphia, Boston, and San Francisco Councils. And Boy Scout councils around the country must take notice that their entire mission is staked upon the moral character of the boys and men involved, and that if they sever those core principles from the program they will destroy the entirety of Scouting.

The national office needs to revoke the charters of these councils post haste to draw a line in the sand.

BSA Bump.

5 posted on 06/02/2003 6:58:35 AM PDT by LTCJ
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Wow, that's mind boggling. You'd think the Catholic Church problem would have tempered this idea.
6 posted on 06/02/2003 7:01:47 AM PDT by tdadams
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Hey, what do you want, Philly isn't known as the city of brotherly love for nothing...
7 posted on 06/02/2003 7:04:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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ENTER

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8 posted on 06/02/2003 7:06:07 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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The Philadelphia Council is the third largest local council in the country, serving 87,000 boys and men.

I wonder what would happen if they were to change their press release to read:

The Philadelphia Council is the third largest local council in the country, serving 87,000 boys, men, and faggots.

Often people will ignore issues when they are couched in careful terms to hide the truth. If the Scouts were up front with the truth, I wonder how many children would be yanked immediately from the Scouts?

Shalom.

9 posted on 06/02/2003 7:10:36 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: fight_truth_decay; Semper Paratus; SMEDLEYBUTLER; PBRSTREETGANG; LTCJ; tdadams; HamiltonJay
I'm a long-time Scout (= youth member) and Scouter (= adult member). A few comments:

Local BSA Councils are not-for-profit corporations consisting of local business and community leaders, as well as a few Scouters. They receive, and must renew annually, a charter from National Council to establish, oversee and support the BSA program in a geographic area. They in turn charter local organizations such as churches, veterans' organizations, fraternal organizations, schools, etc., to sponsor Packs, Troops, Ships, and Crews. These are also renewable annually.

If the sponsoring organization does not follow National and local Council guidelines and policies in running their units, the local Council can refuse to renew their charter. If the local Council does not follow National guidelines, National Council can refuse to renew their charter. In the former case, the unit folds and the Scouts would have to join another unit to continue in Scouting. In the latter case, either a new not-for-profit corporation would have to be started up to take over the charter, or the region the old Council covered could be taken over by one or more Councils contiguous to it. What's going to happen here is that first a delegation from National will meet with the Council's Executive Board (tha above noted local community and business leaders) to see just what their intent is, as opposed to what's in the press. If they persist that they are going to register "avowed homosexuals" as leaders, then I expect that they'll end up taking one of the steps I've outlined.

Note that it is the responsibility of the local units to select leaders. While the BSA is often brought into lawsuits on these matters, it's the sponsoring organization that has failed to do it's homework in registering an unqualified leader, and in failing to make sure that he or she is conducting the program properly.

National's basis for excluding homosexual leaders is because they provide what the majority of the BSA's sponsoring organizations believe are improper moral role models for youth. According to the BSA's own web site, any risk of paedophilia has nothing to do with it. And practically, if you search on Google for cases of molestation of Scouts by Scouters, you'll find that the Scouter involved either has no known sexual relations with adults at all, or is married and has kids.

What the BSA depends on to prevent child molestation is the proper selection of leaders by sponsoring organizations, and the strict application of the Youth Protection guidelines by the sponsors and the leaders. These steps will prevent child molestation of any kind.

The other way for parents to make sure that things of this sort don't happen in their unit is to show up. The BSA is not a program designed so that you can drop off your kid and a check once a week. "BSA" does not stand for "BabySitters of America". It's a family program, not a youth program, and you need to put some time in. Even if you can't be a leader, you can go on the occasional campout, hang around for a Troop meeting, run the Popcorn sale, help with the Pancake Breakfast, get your hands dirty helping with a service project, and in general observe what's going on.

I question the original author's characterization of the Minuteman Council's (Boston) announced policy re: sexual orientation of leaders. National doesn't seem to have a problem with it. Minuteman Council's policy seems to be "Don't ask, don't tell", which is National policy. They just stated it in a fashion that makes it a little more palatable for the locals. But I am unaware of any "avowed homosexual" who has taken a leadership position, "told", and stayed registered at Minuteman Council.

It's also worth noting that Cradle of Liberty Council isn't telling units that they have to accept homosexual members; they're saying that they can if they want to. Note as an analogy that BSA units can accept women as leaders if they wish, but many don't and are supported by both their local and National Councils (Troops sponsored by Mormon stakes do this) in their decision. The choice of leaders is up to sponsoring organizations and they are free to accept or reject leaders on whatever reason they choose (gender, profession, health, etc.).

Finally, cutting off support to your local BSA Council because there is an unresolved situation in Philadelphia is a sure way to hurt a bunch of youth and to make sure that they don't get the program from someone who wants to do so properly.

13 posted on 06/02/2003 7:38:30 AM PDT by RonF
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Clearly the leadership council has been infected with enablers and wishful thinking leftists.

No logical parent would place their male child in the care of fudge-packers and pole-smokers.

There should be a mass exodus from the Philadelphia Council. They should be formally de-listed from the BSA, and then the parents should form a new council, with members who aren't enablers.
15 posted on 06/02/2003 7:43:07 AM PDT by jimt
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When I recited that oath as a kid it was a very sobering thing to contemplate
As a teen I though it was lame
As a college punk I thought it was sadicious
As a grandpa I realize how American it truly is....and how vitally important for the survival of our nation and heritage..
God save the BSA for the sake of the USA
16 posted on 06/02/2003 7:46:46 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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Can anyone post some "gay pride" parade pictures??? Perhaps from the San Francisco Castro Street. These are the guys that will be taking your little boy out on that weekend camping trip.

Question: What would any red-blooded American father do if one of these pervs. molested his child?
31 posted on 06/02/2003 9:41:25 AM PDT by Imagine
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From an old Boy Scout/Scoutmaster...thanks
39 posted on 06/02/2003 10:06:45 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Can just visualize the annual Boy Scout Jamboree will eventually turn into a recruiting effort by the Philadelphia Council to get every homoy into scouting and leadership roles. The homo groups are just elated. More and bigger recruiting grounds have just opened up to them to give them the impetus to get themselves listed as a constitutional-protected species while perverting our young. I hope the National Council of the BSA throws the Philly Council out for perversion of the institution of BSA.
41 posted on 06/02/2003 10:46:55 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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A sad day in Philadelphia. The City of Brotherly Love doesn't give a toot about the moral surroundings of its boys. They'd rather love a bunch of pedophile-homosexuals and let them abuse kids. As far as morals goes, it would seem that Philly ain't got nilly.
42 posted on 06/02/2003 10:47:09 AM PDT by No Dems 2004
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Next thing you know we will see a degenerate Scout Master in handcuffs as the cops are dragging him away. His excuse will be: "I was just showing the boy how to qualify for his "Camping Merit Badge."
58 posted on 06/02/2003 2:46:39 PM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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The"HETEROPHOBICS"infiltrated the Boy Scouts and waited for the right moment to do this.Revoke their charter.
59 posted on 06/02/2003 2:58:32 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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From now on it's going to be the "Boyish Scouts" in Philadelphia.

The rest of the country will have Boy Scouts.
60 posted on 06/02/2003 3:01:15 PM PDT by chainsaw
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This has the signature of W. C. Fields all over it.....
63 posted on 06/02/2003 3:54:40 PM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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When we had a single man with NO kids want to be our scout leader, the parents got together to question him.

I asked him why he wanted to do this if he didn't have kids and he told of how much he loved scouting as a kid and wanted to do the same for others.

I don't know that I asked his sexual persuasion but I did tell him that if he messed around with my kid I would KILL him. Not even call the police just take care of it myself. He believed me.

Also he was a great leader, later got married and had a son that later will be a scout too.

70 posted on 06/02/2003 5:00:04 PM PDT by The UnVeiled Lady
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