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WHY DID THE U.S. ISSUE A STAMP CELEBRATING THE MUSLIM HOLIDAY OF EID?
e-mail and USPS ^ | 2 June 2003

Posted on 06/02/2003 7:50:31 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It has come to my attention that the United States Postal Service issued a stamp commemorating the Muslim holiday of EID. Go the the link to read more about the issuance of that stamp just PRIOR TO 911!!!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military barracks in Saudi Arabia!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of residential areas in Ridyah, Saudi Arabia!

REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in Iraq to Shiite MUSLIM attacks!

The United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the EID MUSLIM holiday season with a commemorative first class holiday postage stamp which was first issued in August of 2001!

REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this stamp when purchasing your stamps at the post office. To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: muslimstamp; usps
It's not enough that we have external enemies. The internal ones are FAR more dangerous.
1 posted on 06/02/2003 7:50:32 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Better?


2 posted on 06/02/2003 7:57:41 AM PDT by Calpernia (The person who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"WHY DID THE U.S. ISSUE A STAMP CELEBRATING THE MUSLIM HOLIDAY OF EID?"

It's part of President Bush's plan to "lick" terrorism.

3 posted on 06/02/2003 7:57:55 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Bad move.
4 posted on 06/02/2003 8:02:35 AM PDT by freekitty (W)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Oh come now. You can cherry pick Christian and Jewish criminals, and millions of law-abiding and peaceful Muslims right here in the US.

If being a "conservative" today requires Muslim-bashing, then I'm all the more glad I'm a libertarian.

5 posted on 06/02/2003 8:06:16 AM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: freekitty
....guess I'll have to be the one to say it "BECAUSE MUSLIM IS A RELIGON OF PEACE"!!!!!!!
6 posted on 06/02/2003 8:07:48 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
It's not enough that we have external enemies. The internal ones are FAR more dangerous.

.......
You can't repeat that enough.
7 posted on 06/02/2003 8:08:04 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Commie Basher
It would be better if the government just produced a standard stamp with an eagle on it, and didn't bother "commemorating" this, that and the other thing. Stamps are necessary to move the mail, all the rest is not the government's business.

People who find EID important will observe the holiday whether or not the government issues a stamp. The same is true of song-birds, racehorses, or whatever other fool thing the USPS is putting on stamps these days.
8 posted on 06/02/2003 8:18:41 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
They have stamps for many Christmas time holidays, including Hanukah, Kwanzaa, and Eid. There are birthday stamps and love stamps.

I think it is ridiculous. The reason I always felt we had such stamps was because of the sending of Christmas cards. Love stamps are great for weddings.

Eid and Black History stamps hand on my post office walls for months. I frankly think they just stick them up there to be politically correct. I would love to see the sales figure of such stamps in a small American town.

The had some Freida Kahlo stamps on the wall a few months ago. She was a Mexican communist. I would be dead before I bought them.
9 posted on 06/02/2003 8:21:24 AM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care
Whoops, I meant "hang" on the wall. By the way, I have seen many stamps (I used to collect them as a child) and these recent ones are my very favorites. This is a large file but these stamps are SO cool, a nice closeup is great to look at.
10 posted on 06/02/2003 8:27:57 AM PDT by I still care
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To: Calpernia
I have always enjoyed that stamp manipulation. If only it were true...
11 posted on 06/02/2003 8:27:57 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (De tal palo, tal astilla.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Is it EID season already?!?! Heck, I don't even have a tree yet.
12 posted on 06/02/2003 8:28:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
You don't need a tree. You need a bath. :)
13 posted on 06/02/2003 8:32:19 AM PDT by I still care
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The Fedayeen Clinton are tougher and more resilient than the Fedayeen Saddam.
14 posted on 06/02/2003 8:33:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: I still care
Touche!
15 posted on 06/02/2003 8:36:36 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: freekitty
From the USPS website (photo from another website):

Postage Stamp Celebrating Muslim Holiday To Be Re-Issued

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Postal Service is pleased to announce that the Eid postage stamp will be re-issued on Oct. 10, 2002, at the current First-Class rate of 37 cents. A 34-cent Eid stamp was first issued on Sept. 1, 2001, at the annual Islamic Society of North America's convention in Des Plaines, Ill. The new version will be available beginning Oct. 10 at Washington, D.C. post offices and at post offices across the country starting the following day.

"This is a proud moment for the Postal Service, the Muslim community, and Americans in general as we re-issue a postage stamp to honor and commemorate two important Islamic celebrations," said Azeezaly S. Jaffer, Vice President, Public Affairs and Communications for the Postal Service. "The Eid stamp helps us highlight the business, educational and social contributions of the estimated six to seven million Muslims in this country whose cultural heritage has become an integral part of the fabric of this nation."

The Eid stamp commemorates the two most important festivals-or eids-in the Islamic calendar: Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha. On these days, Muslims wish each other "Eid mubarak," the phrase featured in Islamic calligraphy on the stamp. "Eid mubarak" translates literally as "blessed festival," and can be paraphrased as "May your religious holiday be blessed." This phrase can be applied to both Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha.

The first day of the Muslim lunar month of Shawwal, Eid al-Fitr signifies "The Feast of Breaking the Fast." This festival marks the end of Ramadan, the month of fasting. As prescribed in the Qur'an, the holy book of Islam, fasting during Ramadan begins from just before first light until sunset. Eid al-Fitr is observed by offering special alms with prayers, feasting, exchanging gifts and visiting family and friends.

Signifying "The Feast of the Sacrifice," Eid al-Adha occurs approximately two months and ten days after Eid al-Fitr. Eid al-Adha comes at the end of the hajj-the annual period of pilgrimage to the holy city of Mecca-and commemorates Ibrahim's willingness to sacrifice his son Ismail. (This is the Muslim account of the Judeo-Christian story of Abraham and Isaac.) Eid al-Adha is celebrated with prayers and social gatherings and traditionally includes the sacrifice of a lamb (or any other animal permitted for food in Islam) as an act of thanksgiving for Allah's mercy. The sacrificial animal is distributed among family, friends and the poor.

This year, Eid al-Adha was celebrated on Feb. 23 and Eid al-Fitr will be celebrated on Dec. 6.

The Eid stamp will join the Hanukkah and Kwanzaa stamps which will also be re-issued on Oct. 10. In addition to the stamps, a special commemorative panel will be available for $8.50 each.

The Eid stamp, designed by Mohammed Zakariya of Arlington, Va., features the Arabic phrase "Eid mubarak" in gold calligraphy on a blue background. English text on the stamps reads "EID GREETINGS."

Employing traditional methods and instruments to create this design, Zakariya chose a script known in Arabic as "thuluth" and in Turkish as "sulus." He describes it as "the choice script for a complex composition due to its open proportions and sense of balance." He used homemade black ink, and his pens were crafted from seasoned reeds from the Near East and Japanese bamboo from Hawaii. The paper was specially prepared with a coating of starch and three coats of alum and egg-white varnish, then burnished with an agate stone and aged for more than a year.

Zakariya's black-and-white design was then colorized by computer. The colors chosen for the stamp-gold script on a blue background-are reminiscent of great works of Islamic calligraphy. This stamp was Zakariya's first project for the Postal Service.

16 posted on 06/02/2003 8:46:12 AM PDT by berserker
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Could you please FReep mail me the correct URL. I'm very interested in reading this article.
Thanks

-MeekMom
17 posted on 06/02/2003 9:12:38 AM PDT by MeekMom ((HUGE Ann Coulter Fan!!!) (Life-long Python Addict))
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To: Wolfie
Ha! Depending on which Eid it is (there are two), either that or a dead lamb....
18 posted on 06/02/2003 10:34:08 AM PDT by I still care
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
EID is DIE backwards. It was a veiled warning that anyone who wants to "mess with Texas" will end up dead. They didn't heed the warning.
19 posted on 06/02/2003 10:39:53 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Not long after 9/11 I went to the post office to buy stamps and when the clerk asked me what kind of stamps I wanted I said ANYTHING but that one. Meanwhile the coffee shop next door to the post office had a poster up about a seminar or discussion or lecture or meeting or SOMETHING that was being sponsored by the Unitarian Church. Guess what it was about? "Understanding Islam". I went off in that coffee house (down in the Bay Area where I USED to live and from where I have thankfully now escaped) and the people there just didn't seem to understand why. They thought I was nuts or something. It's a wonder they didn't call the police and have me arrested for having hateful thoughts...a lot of the shops DOWN THERE have those stupid "This Is A Hate Free Zone" signs in their windows. Can't even express a little hatred anymore...nonviolently of course.
20 posted on 06/02/2003 10:44:20 AM PDT by vikingcelt
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
WHY DID THE U.S. ISSUE A STAMP CELEBRATING THE MUSLIM HOLIDAY OF EID?

Because the administration doesn't have the strength of your convictions.

21 posted on 06/02/2003 11:07:21 AM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: berserker
I am not sure I would call this a proud momemt for the American people.
22 posted on 06/02/2003 5:27:25 PM PDT by freekitty (W)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(shrug)The Post Office prints Christmas stamps, it prints Haunnaka (I know I butchered that sp) stamps, why wouldn't it print stamps honoring Muslim holidays?

All this frothing at the mouth as if each and every Muslim on the planet is planning to blow up his neighborhood. It's stupid, and it smacks of a kind of racism.

23 posted on 06/02/2003 5:40:11 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Because the people behind that farce, are butt kissers, not acomplishers.
24 posted on 06/02/2003 5:41:41 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: gridlock
It would be better if the government just produced a standard stamp with an eagle on it, and didn't bother "commemorating" this, that and the other thing. Stamps are necessary to move the mail, all the rest is not the government's business.

I think part of the reason for commemorative stamps is that they're profitable. Collecters buy them, but don't use them. If there were no commemorative stamps, this additional market would disappear, and postal rates would be even higher.

25 posted on 06/02/2003 8:47:46 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: I still care
Oh no.. they'll have to change the GA stamp because that looks too much like a Plantation House in the background. nonono that won't do!! /sarcasm
26 posted on 06/02/2003 8:51:55 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: berserker
Sounds like Festivus.
27 posted on 06/02/2003 8:52:55 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Fox News - We report the Peterson case. You decide whether our Peterson Coverage beats the rest.)
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To: honeygrl
I know, they are so politically incorrect! Compare them to the designs on the state quarters, which are very PC. For instance, they could not get an inclusive design on the Texas quarter, so they ended up just putting a star. The Alamo was considered too insulting to Mexicans...
28 posted on 06/02/2003 9:39:41 PM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care
"The Alamo was considered too insulting to Mexicans... "

Well isn't Texas jointly owned by Mexico and US?
29 posted on 06/02/2003 9:53:14 PM PDT by honeygrl (j/k!)
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To: Commie Basher
If being a "conservative" today requires Muslim-bashing, then I'm all the more glad I'm a libertarian.

You must know nothing of Islam. There can never be Muslim Bashing when you speak of the truth of Islam.

Muslims want non muslims to either submit to Islam or die, Period. That is their theology.

And if a Muslim says this is a lie, then you know he lies because the Quran tells all Muslims to lie to non Muslims in regards to the truth about Islam.

Truth is hate to those who hate the truth.

30 posted on 06/02/2003 10:21:21 PM PDT by Radioactive
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To: Radioactive
Muslims want non muslims to either submit to Islam or die, Period. That is their theology.

Exactly right...the Koran teaches that. The Koran also teaches that a Muslim who leaves the "faith" is to be executed. How many times does this need to be said? Any religion, (including mine if it WERE to do so) that teaches that type of philosophy is evil and will lead to evil deeds by its followers. It is not racism, but logic that produces my thought process about Islam.

I am not going to continue justifying my position to individuals who do not want to understand logic and reason. Furthermore, our troops are still dying at the hands of people who grew up under that philosophy. And, our troops will continue to die. Israelis will continue to die with suicide bombings. Americans here will eventually die if this religion is left unchecked. Simple logic. Once it happens, the apologists will not be found anymore. Reason: Human pride prevents apology and admission of error.

31 posted on 06/03/2003 6:24:27 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (De tal palo, tal astilla.)
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To: Commie Basher
I think part of the reason for commemorative stamps is that they're profitable. Collecters buy them, but don't use them. If there were no commemorative stamps, this additional market would disappear, and postal rates would be even higher.

So if postal rates could be reduced by having the USPS run whore-houses out of the back of Post Offices, should they do that? I mean, if they didn't, postal rates would be even higher, wouldn't they?

The government should make it's money through taxation. If you want them to make money in other ways, be prepared to accept them doing all sorts of foolish things in pursuit of a buck.

32 posted on 06/03/2003 8:26:45 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: gridlock
The government should make it's money through taxation. If you want them to make money in other ways, be prepared to accept them doing all sorts of foolish things in pursuit of a buck.

I prefer that govt make money through means other than taxation. User fees, commerative stamps, Off-Track Betting (as in NY), and lottos are all better, since they are voluntary. I'd rather others voluntarily subsidize govt, so as to lower my tax burden.

33 posted on 06/03/2003 11:03:36 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Because we are suspose to help in our demise
34 posted on 06/03/2003 11:08:38 PM PDT by xclusiv1
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To: Radioactive
Muslims want non muslims to either submit to Islam or die, Period. That is their theology.

And if a Muslim says this is a lie, then you know he lies because the Quran tells all Muslims to lie to non Muslims in regards to the truth about Islam.

Well, I've heard that the Talmud teaches it's okay for Jews to lie and swindle Gentiles, and that Gentiles are lesser people. The Canaanites are certainly treated as deserving of death, merely because Yaweeh said so. And Christians have a history of killing Jews and Muslims in crusades and inquisitions, merely because they were "infidels" or "heathen" or whatever.

Humanity has cruel and tribalistic roots, and that includes all religions and races. Dig into any group's past, and you can cherry pick unsavory quotes.

Sure, modern Jews and Christians have evolved from the uglier elements in their past (the Bible celebrates much cruelty) -- but so too have many Muslims. None of these religions have an unblemished history or dogma.

But many "conservatives" are playing a double standard. They judge Islams by its bad (and ignore the good), and judge Judaism and Christianity by its good (and ignore the bad).

Sorry, but I delcine to take "sides" in a religious war. I'll continue judging individuals by the content of their character, and not by atavistic quotes from millenia old texts.

35 posted on 06/03/2003 11:21:39 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: MeekMom
Go to usps.gov

I think that is the link.

36 posted on 06/03/2003 11:27:32 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: MeekMom
http://www.usps.com/
37 posted on 06/03/2003 11:29:20 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Commie Basher
I prefer that govt make money through means other than taxation. User fees, commerative stamps, Off-Track Betting (as in NY), and lottos are all better, since they are voluntary.

User fees, commemrative stamps, OTB and lottos are all very inefficient ways to collect money. For the money taken in by the government, only something like 20% is available for government programs. Better to collect one quarter that amount in an 80% efficient tax, and minimize the burden on society.

BTW, did you know that NYC Off Track Betting routinely loses money? (That's looses in FReep-speak). So NYC is running these smelly, smarmy betting parlours all over town, and actually has to pay to keep them open. But the mayor can't close them, because it's impossible to cut any government program.

I used to live next door to one of these places. I always had a dozen cigar-smoking "patrons" outside my window, and a constant stream of people going to the back yard of the apartment building to pee on the bushes. And that place was losing money! I was paying tax money to keep that place open!

38 posted on 06/04/2003 5:58:32 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: Commie Basher
Yes you are correct.

But-----if you look at what the Muslims are doing today with what was written, you cannot deny that these people just can't get along with anybody.

There are 146 wars going on in this world today. Of those 146, 142 involve Islam / Muslims.

Talmudic/athiestic Jews are no better. They take advantage of anyone and everyone.

You are incorrect about the Crusades.

The Crusades were the result of Islamic insurgence into FRance, Spain and most of Europe.

The Crusades were used to get rid of Islam because the peoples of these regions new how ruthless Islam is.

YOur comments about the Bible are interesting. I don't believe the Bible celebrates cruelty. It just reports that it did happen and that it was needed in many instances to decapitate a heathen power.

The Quran is just a bunch of writings from Clerics who put their own ideas into a book after watching Mohammed go into his epilleptic fits.

There was no inspiration for the Quran, osther than hate of the Christians / Jews who rejected Mr. Mohammed and his band of kooks.

Ps.....Mohammed was a terrorist and participated in many killings....NIce Guy huh?

39 posted on 06/04/2003 10:05:44 AM PDT by Radioactive
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To: Radioactive
But-----if you look at what the Muslims are doing today with what was written, you cannot deny that these people just can't get along with anybody.

There are violent people in all religions, but many civilized Muslims too. I've met a few here in L.A. who are secular, the women in modern dress and they have careers.

There are 146 wars going on in this world today. Of those 146, 142 involve Islam / Muslims.

That number's been circulating the internet, and I suppose talk radio too. I don't know how accurate it is. But there are some billion Muslims in the world, so it's only natural that people of Muslim faith are "involved" in many wars. How many Christian nations were "involved" in World Wars One and Two?

Mohammed was a terrorist and participated in many killings....

"Terrorist" is a modern word. Another way to look at it is that Mohammed was a "warrior" -- same as Charles the Great (who was crowned Holy Roman Emperor for his war-making), the Cursaders, the Israelists (who were aggresors as much as aggresed against), and a whole host of nominally Christian or Jewish kings and leaders. Moses was arguably as much a warrior/terrorist as Mohammed. Moses came upon Canaan and waged an aggressive war on them.

I don't know that Mohammed was any more a "terrorist" than other rulers of his era. Sure, Christ and Buddha were peaceful, but many religious leaders (popes too) were warriors.

I think there's cruelty in the Bible. It's an uneven book, probably because it has many authors. Look at all the punishments that God inflicts. There's one story about a guy who's helping carry the Arc of the Covenant, and he slips against it, and thus is stricken dead.

40 posted on 06/05/2003 7:42:47 AM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: Zeroisanumber
All this frothing at the mouth as if each and every Muslim on the planet is planning to blow up his neighborhood.

That's a red herring argument if I've ever heard of one!

Of course, not "every Muslim" is planning to blow up his neighborhood. But, a substantial number of them are. A much larger number is in sympathy with their ultimate aims although they have no desire to get out front and pull the triggers. Sure, there are some "peaceful" Muslims. But most of them don't dare show sympathy to the Infidel, so they are moot.

It's stupid, and it smacks of a kind of racism.

This has nothing to do with race and the concept is far from "stupid". It has everything to do with ethnicity and the religious culture of Radical Islam. This fundamentalist movement is a world-wide religion intent on subjugating the world into it's own hideous, slave-like mold. They claim to get their authority from revealed scripture (Koran), much like the Communists got theirs from Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto.

Islam is entirely foreign to Western culture, human rights and the Rule of Constitutional Law. This means it is anathama to everything "American". It deserves to be pushed back into the dark corners from whence it murderously emerged. Better yet, it's adherents need to be converted from it's bondage and set free both religiously and politically.

41 posted on 06/05/2003 9:16:45 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Commie Basher
Are you Muslim?
42 posted on 06/05/2003 4:38:07 PM PDT by Radioactive
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To: Radioactive
Are you Muslim?

I'm a lapsed Catholic. I've never even cracked open the Koran -- but I've become quite disgusted at "conservative" bashing of Muslims and Arabs and "ragheads" these past few years.

For over two decades, I defended conservatives and Christian fundamentalists against charges of racism from the Left. But these past few years, for the first time, I've seen racism within conservatism. I've seen the vile face of Christian fundamentalism.

I long sat on the fence between libertarians and conservatives, paying membership fees to groups from both sides. But after 15 years as a registered Republican, I grew so disgusted that last year I re-registered Libertarian.

These past few years, "conservatives" have come to resemble the PC Left. Now, "conservatives" are booing liberals off stage on campuses. "Conservaties" are engaging in the same character assasination that the PC Left has done against it enemies. "Conservatives" are demonizing anyone who falls outside the pro-war Party line (even fellow conservatives), same as the PC Left demonized their "deviationists".

No, I'm not a Muslim. But after seeing all the foaming and frothing from these PC "conservatives", I've grown very sympathetic to Muslims. I never allowed myself to be bullied by the Left into hating "the white male patriarchy," and I refuse to be bullied by "conservatives" into hating Muslims or Arabs.

"Conservatism" has turned ugly; this is not the conservatism of Reagan, although they use his name. I voted for Bush in 2000, but I won't make that mistake again. I'll vote for whoever the Libertarians nominate (I much prefered Harry Browne to Bush IAE, but I wanted to beat Gore, so I voted for the lesser evil of Bush).

43 posted on 06/05/2003 8:05:56 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher
See http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?article_id=32932 and let me know what you think.

I did not vote last election due to the evil of 2 lesser scenario. I could not stand to vote for either of those 2 either!

I'm tired of the Rush Limbaugh view of the 2 party system being the only way....they are bad we are good......etc.......

Yes nothing is black and white today, but I've read the Quran and I know two people who were Muslim and have converted to Christianity and have been put under a Fatwa death sentence by their former Imam.

They are dead set against any Islamization of the US and have stated to me that they hope the rest of the world realize the dangers of Islam.

44 posted on 06/06/2003 5:47:58 AM PDT by Radioactive
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To: Radioactive
Far more powerful than Islam is the power of Hollywood. All over the world, people see American TV -- and they want to be like us! For every Spanish speaking immigrant that enters the US, several Latin Americans learn English so they can enjoy our music. I know some Brazilians who traveled to the US to attend a concert. They hate American politics -- but love American music, and Americans!

Whatever the rough spots (some non-English speaking immigrants, some fundamentalist Muslims), the world is learning English and adapting modern Western tech culture. No need to bomb or bribe the world. Goodwill, peace, free trade -- these are our strongest assets.

45 posted on 06/06/2003 9:28:47 AM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher
I think the reason they sell so well is that people think they are a modern art Christmas tree. After all it says "Greetings" on the bottom. Now, if everyone who buys these would just put a tiny star on top, it would look just like one.
46 posted on 06/06/2003 9:40:30 AM PDT by texastoo
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