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Do others affect your self esteem?
Web MD medical news | May 30, 2003 | Jeanie Lerche Davis

Posted on 06/02/2003 2:51:29 PM PDT by Sonny M

Is your self-esteem affected by others' opinions? It sure is, according to a new study, which shows that virtually everyone -- no matter what they say -- cares what people think of them.

We all know people who steadfastly deny that their self-esteem isn't based on the opinions of others, says Mark R. Leary, PhD, psychologist at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, N.C. His study appears in the current Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin.

Psychologists have noted that people in Western cultures "underestimate the degree to which their behavior is affected by their concerns with preserving face and avoiding embarrassment," he writes.

Other researchers have speculated that a person's low self-esteem or high self-esteem actually helps determine how another person feels about them -- whether they dislike or like them.

Leary and his colleagues set out to determine what was true. In two experiments, they tested the effects of social approval and disapproval on 36 college students.

First, each student completed a questionnaire that measured low or high self-esteem. Then, each filled out another questionnaire about themselves -- describing personal information like the loneliest time in their lives and their happiest childhood memory.

Others in the group read these personal accounts, then decided: Would they want to know that person better, based on this information?

Then, after learning if people liked them or not, each person revealed how this news affected them. Did being liked, approved, or accepted make a difference? Did they feel low self-esteem or high self-esteem?

In the second experiment, Leary changed things a bit. At the outset, he asked people to evaluate how they thought their self-esteem would be affected by others' approval or disapproval.

He then led them through the same series of exercises -- the questionnaires, the personal accounts, the revelations regarding "liking" or "disliking," the self-evaluation -- and how all this ultimately affected their self-esteem.

The upshot of it all? Even those who strongly denied caring about others' approval were indeed affected by it: Disapproval created twinges of low self-esteem. "The results of this study show that social approval and disapproval affect virtually everyone's feelings about themselves, even those individuals who steadfastly and adamantly claim that their feelings about themselves are not affected by other people's evaluations," says Leary in a news release.

"People underestimate the degree to which they are influenced by others," he says. "It's hard to know why, but part of it may be the American ideal of marching to your own drummer. We grow up thinking we shouldn't be affected by what others think."

The study helps remind us that perfectly healthy people -- with perfectly healthy self-esteem -- are still affected by what others think, he says. Occasional feelings of low self-esteem are only normal.


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Oh god, another study on self-esteem.
1 posted on 06/02/2003 2:51:29 PM PDT by Sonny M
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To: Sonny M
"Oh god, another study on self-esteem."

And how does that make you feel?
2 posted on 06/02/2003 2:57:10 PM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obsfucation)
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To: Sonny M
My advice? Suck it up, put some ice on it and walk it off!!
3 posted on 06/02/2003 2:59:11 PM PDT by The_Pickle ("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
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To: M. Peach
My, at the time, nine year old son told his third grade teacher that he would tell her what he THOUGHT and not what he felt about the DARE program.

It made me proud.
4 posted on 06/02/2003 3:00:17 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: Sonny M; dead

Do others affect your self esteem?

Why? Why do you ask? It's something I've done, isn't it? Oh, crud, I screwed up again. Why me?? WHY ME????

Dan

5 posted on 06/02/2003 3:01:36 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
LOL
6 posted on 06/02/2003 3:03:03 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: The_Pickle
Suck it up, put some ice on it and walk it off!!

What are you Bill Clinton?

Joking, but thats the line he said after his rape in the last 1970's.

7 posted on 06/02/2003 3:03:30 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: BibChr
Why's everybody always pickin' on me?
8 posted on 06/02/2003 3:06:28 PM PDT by ShapeShifter (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.)
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To: Sonny M
They needed a study to figure this out?
9 posted on 06/02/2003 3:07:14 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: ShapeShifter
"Why's everybody always pickin' on me? "

Charlie, is that you? Where you been all this time?

10 posted on 06/02/2003 3:07:34 PM PDT by Kerberos (Ah yes the liberal democrats, united as ever in opportunism and error. Tony Blair 3/18/03)
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To: Sonny M
Actually I was channeling the spirit of my high school wrestling coach... :)
11 posted on 06/02/2003 3:09:09 PM PDT by The_Pickle ("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
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To: Kerberos
Oh No. What did I do now??
12 posted on 06/02/2003 3:11:21 PM PDT by ShapeShifter (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.)
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To: Sonny M
Mark R. Leary, PhD, psychologist

Why do you suppose Dr Leary feels he needs to put the extra letters between his name and his job? It's a self-esteem thing isn't it? Psychologists have a tough job stating the obvious in terms unfamiliar to those without the PhD, and perhaps he needs to distinguish betwwen those who just state the obvious and those who need a PhD to state the obvious. You'd think just having the PhD would kick up the self-esteem to a permanent high, but maybe it needs to be in something a little more serious like business management or philosophy.

13 posted on 06/02/2003 3:11:45 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: Sonny M
I have found it better to get away from the concept of self-esteem, which requires constant attention to the question of "how I am doing," and to get into self-acceptance. There the question changes to "what is it that I enjoy doing, and how can I do more of it without harming anyone?"

I found the works of Dr. Albert Ellis invaluable in helping me to make the conversion.

14 posted on 06/02/2003 3:11:57 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (Vote Right or take what's Left.)
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To: Sonny M
If mom and dad and the kids at school would quit making fun of me I would quit wetting myself. I mean what's a 16 year old supposed to do when everybody hate them?
15 posted on 06/02/2003 3:12:00 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: ShapeShifter
"Oh No. What did I do now??"

LOL

16 posted on 06/02/2003 3:13:00 PM PDT by Kerberos (Ah yes the liberal democrats, united as ever in opportunism and error. Tony Blair 3/18/03)
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To: M. Peach
And how does that make you feel?

With my hands, wiseguy!

17 posted on 06/02/2003 3:15:35 PM PDT by Loyalist (Keeper of the Schismatic Orc Ping List. Freepmail me if you want on or off it.)
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To: Sonny M
Of course, once you have "grown up" (ie developed a moral code), you no longer need look to others for esteem.
18 posted on 06/02/2003 3:16:50 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: Sonny M

19 posted on 06/02/2003 3:19:47 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: The_Pickle
You're making me feel bad. Everyone makes me feel bad. WHY ME?!?! ;_;
20 posted on 06/02/2003 3:30:42 PM PDT by 4mycountry (One taquila, two taquila, three taquila, floor.)
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To: Sonny M
Nobody likes me... and I don't blame them!
21 posted on 06/02/2003 3:43:43 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: Sonny M
I'm totally in agreement.. the self esteem crapola wears thin. I couldn't believe it when I had gall bladder surgery.. the question I got before surgery? "How is this surgery going to effect your self esteem..?" I told the nurse .. "I cannot believe your asking me this but.. it'll effect my self esteem 'cause everyone else will have a gall bladder and I won't"... ;P
22 posted on 06/02/2003 3:54:56 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: Sonny M
99% of the time, I could give a rat's arse what people think about me...the other 1% is my wife, and that matters a lot...but we usually work it out.

FMCDH

23 posted on 06/02/2003 4:10:53 PM PDT by nothingnew (the pendulum swings and the libs are in the pit)
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To: Zipporah
interesting... i just filled in a very long survey about how being diabetic affected my 'feelings' about myself and my interactions w/others.

while i admit that there can be some feelings of 'why me' or 'why am i different' when the rest of the office is downing triple hazelnut lattes (i'm in seattle); i long ago learned to deal w/what i have to deal w/and move on.

on the other hand, i think the idea of health and self esteem is an interesting topic to the academic (i'm a 'mature' phd student, so everything is interesting...), but i wonder if regular, chronically ill people worry about this stuff. especially if you have a chronic illness that doesn't show. i'm willing to stipulate that dealing w/deformity, amputation, etc. is a much different matter and certainly may affect one's self esteem.
24 posted on 06/02/2003 4:52:22 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: JmyBryan
I have found supressing my selfish, egotistical nature to be very liberating. I'm less depressed, more interested in other people and find the oddest things make me happy.
If I could extend this to cover moral outrage when encountering evil and purposeful ignorance I'd have it made.
25 posted on 06/02/2003 5:30:48 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (An illegal told me I should move back to Europe where I belong.)
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To: ShapeShifter
This is the Doppler-Packerd exercise in self-esteem deflation.

Discuss among yourselves.
26 posted on 06/02/2003 8:03:16 PM PDT by gcruse (Publisher of Lazy Fair Times)
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To: Sonny M
Oh god, another study on self-esteem.

Bumper sticker I've seen a couple of times: "Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're an a$$hole."

27 posted on 06/03/2003 10:39:11 AM PDT by DE50AE
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To: DE50AE
Can't drink my tea...laughing to hard...sides hurt.
28 posted on 06/03/2003 11:31:40 AM PDT by Jotmo
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To: Sonny M
Disapproval created twinges of low self-esteem. "The results of this study show that social approval and disapproval affect virtually everyone's feelings about themselves, even those individuals who steadfastly and adamantly claim that their feelings about themselves are not affected by other people's evaluations," says Leary in a news release

That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

29 posted on 06/03/2003 11:34:55 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Hey Moose! Rocco! - Help the judge find his checkbook, will ya?")
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"Nobody likes you. Everybody hates you. You're gonna lose. Smile you F***" - Bruce Willis, Last Boy Scout.
30 posted on 06/03/2003 11:37:04 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Hey Moose! Rocco! - Help the judge find his checkbook, will ya?")
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To: ShapeShifter
Charlie Brown, he's a clown
31 posted on 06/03/2003 11:40:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Neo-anderthal conservative)
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To: M. Peach
This is a "study" of 36 college kids. Basically teenagers or early twenties at most? Gosh, what a surprise that these are folks who worry about what others think of them.
32 posted on 06/03/2003 9:47:35 PM PDT by enuu
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To: Sonny M; sultan88; FBD; tame
(((((((((((((((ping))))))))))))))))

It's important for me to know what you guys think of this {g} (note sarcasm)

Some really cool guy once said to me "no one can make you feel anything you don't want to feel". :o)

33 posted on 06/03/2003 10:43:34 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (Are you on the right side of the wrong issue or the wrong side of the right issue????)
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To: Dan from Michigan
ROTLF...only you would quote that, Dan
34 posted on 06/03/2003 10:44:16 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (Are you on the right side of the wrong issue or the wrong side of the right issue????)
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To: Flurry
Flurry, do you like my new dress??? I really need to know (hehehe)


35 posted on 06/03/2003 10:46:23 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (Are you on the right side of the wrong issue or the wrong side of the right issue????)
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To: cherry_bomb88
ROTLF...only you would quote that, Dan

I needed to find a thread where I can quote that. This one's perfect.

36 posted on 06/03/2003 10:53:54 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Hey Moose! Rocco! - Help the judge find his checkbook, will ya?")
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To: BibChr
"Do others affect your self esteem?"

If I say "NO!", then will you like me? Huh, will you?

Or do you want me to say "YES?"

37 posted on 06/03/2003 11:24:18 PM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: cherry_bomb88
You look absolutely STUNNING. But even more important is how smart and caring you are. If everyone was like you the world would be a better place.
38 posted on 06/04/2003 4:35:01 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: BibChr
Go stuff it.
39 posted on 06/04/2003 4:37:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: cherry_bomb88
Hi, well...here's what I think...I think that...well...I think that...I don't know...what do you guys think? ;o)
40 posted on 06/04/2003 5:15:50 AM PDT by tame (If I must be the victim of a criminal, please let it be Catwoman! Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!)
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To: tame
I think all this feel good BS psychology stuff is just a bit much, but I'll talk to my shrink about it later. :o)
41 posted on 06/04/2003 5:20:37 AM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (Are you on the right side of the wrong issue or the wrong side of the right issue????)
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To: Sonny M

I feel so much better about myself now...


42 posted on 06/04/2003 5:31:31 AM PDT by Fintan (If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt. - Dean Martin)
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To: cherry_bomb88
Well, sometimes I worry that people think I look kinda goofy...but I get over it.
43 posted on 06/04/2003 6:31:53 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Badray
LOL!

Dan

"They like me! They really -- or, are they just SAYING they like me?!?"
44 posted on 06/04/2003 6:36:06 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: cherry_bomb88
I was telling my shrink how people seem to ignore me and he said, "What did you say?"
45 posted on 06/04/2003 7:23:15 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: Badray
Driving to the office this morning on the Interstate, I looked over to my left and there was this woman in a brand new Lexus doing 65 miles per hour with her face stuck on her rear view mirror putting on eyeliner.

I looked away a couple of seconds and when I looked back she was halfway over in my lane, still working on that make-up. As a man I don't scare easily. But she scared me so much I dropped my electric shaver, which knocked the donut out of my hand. In all of the confusion of trying to straighten out the car using my knees on the steering wheel, I dropped my cell phone which splashed in my coffee that I was holding between my legs, and burned "Big Flurry and the Twins", ruined my damn phone, soaked my trousers, and disconnected an important call.

Damn women drivers!!!!
46 posted on 06/04/2003 7:30:59 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: tame
A little boy went up to his father and asked: "Dad, where did all of my intelligence come from?"

The father replied: "Well, son, you must have gotten it from your mother, 'cause I still have mine."



47 posted on 06/04/2003 8:07:02 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: Flurry
ROFL

And people wonder why you drink.

I guess they've just never had days this bad.
48 posted on 06/04/2003 8:52:18 AM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: BibChr
Dan

In your case, we're just saying it. ;-)
49 posted on 06/04/2003 8:53:19 AM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Fintan
Hey SCOTUS!!

I just found the definition of obscene!


50 posted on 06/04/2003 8:57:29 AM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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