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Nine Illegal Aliens Arrested [working construction. No American were willing work perhaps?]
WIVB [CBS Affilicate, Buffalo, New York] ^
| june 3, 2003
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Posted on 06/04/2003 8:25:16 AM PDT by twas
Nine illegal aliens have been arrested while working on the New Hampton Inn project in East Aurora.
Investigative Reporter Luke Moretti tell us the Building Trades Council blew the case open.
Buffalo Building Trades Council President Daniel Boody said, "All in the name of greed."
Greed, say these top area union leaders, comes in the form of illegal aliens found working on the Hampton Inn Hotel project in East Aurora.
Last month, nine undocumented workers from Mexico were busted by immigration officers.
"Approximately eight guys getting out of the van."
The case got rolling after the Buffalo Building Trades Council was tipped off.
Daniel Boody said, "...complaints by non-union construction workers that are layed off that thought they would be working here for that employer."
The project developer is Paul Bandrowski. Union officials say not only did Bandrowski have illegal aliens working on the seven million dollar, eighty room hotel project, they stayed at a residence he owns on Main Street.
Mike Barczys of Carpenters Local #9 said, "...hard for a guy and for a superintendent of that caliber to not know that on his site when he walks through nine illegal aleins are working there."
But Bandrowski tells us a sub-contractor handled the work detail and temporary housing. He denies having any knowledge of the situation.
Question: You don't have any knowledge of that at all? Aurora Ventures Chairman Paul Bandrowski said, "None at all. We would never condone it. We as a company make sure that every contractors we have, with every sub-contractor says that everybody has to be legal to work in the United States."
An immigration spokesman from Vermont tells me that nine illegal aliens were arrested on May 23rd. Eight have since been deported back to Mexico. One remains in the United States because of a criminal history.
Despite the labor setback, work continues on the East Aurora Hampton Inn, scheduled to open this summer.
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I was watching this on the local morning news and they interviewed one of the contractors and he was SHOCKED to learn that none of these men had green cards!
If they INS can't or won't do their job, maybe the trade unions will start making some noise about illegal immigrants "taking-job-that-lazy-Americans-won't-do".
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posted on
06/04/2003 8:25:16 AM PDT
by
twas
To: twas
"shocked" my petudies... i'm sure the contractors knew full well who they were hiring. the developers around here are greedy and duplicitous. wait. most developers are. oh well.
and does anything *decent* ever happen in this city?? it's getting to be rather humorous.
To: twas
"Greed, say these top area union leaders..."
if anyone knows about greed, it's union leaders!
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posted on
06/04/2003 8:30:57 AM PDT
by
Blzbba
To: twas
The project developer is Paul Bandrowski. Union officials say not only did Bandrowski have illegal aliens working on the seven million dollar, eighty room hotel project, they stayed at a residence he owns on Main Street. I thought federal laws provide for stiff penalties when this is found.
I assume a prosecution is being prepared.
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posted on
06/04/2003 8:33:31 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
To: twas
They used them to build Home Depots around here.
That's why everyone around here shops at Lowes, which was built with local labor.
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posted on
06/04/2003 8:35:27 AM PDT
by
fightu4it
To: twas
Illegal Irish immigrants have been working on construction sites in New York City for years.
One reason is that the contractor gets a superior product in addition to cost savings -- the training system for tradesmen in Ireland is so outstanding that the same guy who does carpentry work from Monday through Wednesday can also do electrical work on Thursday and plumbing on Friday.
I knew an Irish-American contractor in New York who would hire "his" people to work on his projects. He would pay off the union by hiring two of their workers, but upon arriving at the site these two guys were told to "do whatever you want all day, boys -- but just stay out of the way of my fellas!"
To: Victoria Delsoul
New York / illegal immigrant bump.
To: twas
You can thank Asa--he's really stepping up enforcement lately. I keep reading about new deportations.
To: twas
ACTION PLAN: Border Violators
1) Close all US borders to illegal entry by forthwith with all means possible, including military presence.
2) Maintain legitimate immigration levels at modest annual level with requirements that immigrants be employable or sufficiently wealthy for self-support if they do not intend to work, proficient in basic English and willing to be assimilated into American culture and language. All applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples.
3) Legal immigration shall be awarded to individuals on a lottery basis, wherein all countries are given equal status in the immigration lottery, without regards to color or economic plight of originating nation.
4) Those from Muslim countries, or individuals of Islamic faith from any country, shall be denied immigration privileges to the US.
5) Detain all illegally violating US borders, taking photos, prints and DNA samples of said violator while at the same time, check for out standing warrants. If no outstanding warrants are discovered, return border violators to home country within 20 days via commercial airline and submit cost of such action, including processing and housing costs for said violator to country of origin. If costs are not paid within 30 days, reduce any and all aid to said country by a like amount.
6) Should any country from which a border violator originates not currently receive any aid from the US, the Justice Department shall seize or secure liens on assets owned, managed or registered to that country to the full extent of the obligation.
7) Establish new Guest Worker Visa (GWV) category, renewable every 6 months, for unskilled labor positions wherein all applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples. Work permitted of such applicants shall be limited to one of several categories, including childcare, lawn/gardening, restaurant staff, cleaning and the like. Families of GWV workers are not permitted to enter US, nor will the birth of a child to one of GWV status confer citizenship to either parent or child.
8) Any violation of civil or criminal laws shall result in the forfeiture of the GWV and immediate return to originating country.
9) GWV holders shall be prohibited from claiming unemployment benefits, welfare support or free medical service.
10) The originating country of all GWV holders shall be responsible for any uninsured loss caused by the GWV, including emergency medical claims and/or claims resulting from illegal actions committed while in the US.
11) Companies who hire GWV holders shall submit to the immigration dept the name and GWV number of that individual so employed, along with a description of employment tasks. Companies who fail to report employment of GWV workers, or hire illegal workers shall be subject to penalty. GWV workers shall be paid with check, having income tax withheld. GWV workers shall not be subject to unemployment tax because they are not eligible for unemployment claims.
12) Border violators, or any non-citizen not possessing a valid visa, detained by local police for any reason shall be turned over to immigration officials for immediate deportation action, except if they face greater criminal charges.
13) GWV workers shall be prohibited for voting in local, state and federal elections.
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posted on
06/04/2003 8:37:59 AM PDT
by
Imagine
To: madfly
ping
To: twas
Eastern Long Island has been making life a litter more difficult for illegals recently. Remember some story about how illegals were congregating at some train station or something out there for day jobs and liberals were up in arms because there were plans to develop the property or something and for the Mexicans to find another street corner. Glad they rounded this bunch up. Not all of NYers are liberal weenies!
To: twas
< If they INS can't or won't do their job, maybe the trade unions will start making some noise about illegal immigrants "taking-job-that-lazy-Americans-won't-do". >
Finally, something they can be useful for.
To: KellyAdmirer
Not all of NYers are liberal weenies! No, but an awful lot of them are hypocritical weenies. Many of the same people who hired illegal aliens to trim the hedges suddenly made Pat Buchanan look like an advocate of open borders when those illegal aliens began peeing on those same hedges while waiting to get picked up on another job in the morning.
To: Imagine
Now that wasn't so hard, was it?
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posted on
06/04/2003 8:56:32 AM PDT
by
beelzepug
(incessantly yapping for change)
To: twas
Nine illegal aliens have been arrested while working on the New Hampton Inn project in East Aurora. Buffalo Building Trades Council President Daniel Boody said, "All in the name of greed." Greed, say these top area union leaders, comes in the form of illegal aliens found working on the Hampton Inn Hotel project in East Aurora.
Huh? When a profit making enterprise competes to make a profit, you call that greed? How about when union thugs go on strike to hold up businessmen for higher wages. Isnt that greed?
The case got rolling after the Buffalo Building Trades Council was tipped off.
Maybe someone should tip off the Unions that the illegal migration of cheap labor is fruit of their support of the Democratic Party. I know we hear about Republicans contribution to the problem. But, in reality, only the Republicans expend political capital to speak out on the problem.
Mike Barczys of Carpenters Local #9 said, "...hard for a guy and for a superintendent of that caliber to not know that on his site when he walks through nine illegal aleins are working there."
Why should they, private individuals, enforce immigration when the socialists entrenched in the US government wont? Look at the Ranchers in Arizonza who are condemned by Democrats for mounting a citizens patrol of the border on ranch land.
An immigration spokesman from Vermont tells me that nine illegal aliens were arrested on May 23rd. Eight have since been deported back to Mexico. One remains in the United States because of a criminal history.
Leave it to the government to keep the bad guys.
To: twas
If they INS can't or won't do their job, maybe the trade unions will start making some noise about illegal immigrants "taking-job-that-lazy-Americans-won't-do".It's time. The unions have got to be unequivocal about this and report invaders who are taking US jobs. It's also time for tech workers and other non-union workers to smarten up. Anyone on work Visa who can be replaced by a qualified US citizen should be sent to their homelands, along with their families.
Maybe working through state agencies will be more effective than waiting for the US government to do its job, protecting and defending the US from invasion, will be.
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posted on
06/04/2003 8:57:57 AM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: twas
some media report! ... they spell "laid" as "layed".
like other humans, illegals want the most money they can get. they may start with jobs that others don't want, but eventually they will work their way into higher paying jobs.
many times illegals will work for large farms for a while, ask for a raise, but be denied the raise, and they move on and up. meanwhile, the large agribusiness that hired them will look for an illegal-just-over-the-border with less english skills and knowledge of the economy.
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:04:10 AM PDT
by
liberalnot
(what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
To: twas
No...
Greed comes in the form of unions who raise prevailing wages over what the market will bear, distorting the market for the benefit of the lazy and the stupid.
To: GOP_Proud
You're kidding, right? The AFL-CIO supports amnesties for these people. They only thing they see is filling up their membership roles.
And I am a retired AFL-CIO member.
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:08:04 AM PDT
by
navyblue
To: DAnconia55
"No... Greed comes in the form of unions who raise prevailing wages over what the market will bear, distorting the market for the benefit of the lazy and the stupid." Greed is a $6,000.00 shi=ower curtain.
To: DAnconia55
sound a lot like our politician's retirement plans
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:12:39 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: twas
NOBODY wants to admit the TRUTH about our Latino workers. They are our slaves. We all benefit immensly from their peonage in EVERY aspect of our daily lives. Yes there are a host of problems attenuating our USE of them and we all suffer them. The ONLY way to deal with this problem is to legalize them as guest workers ... insure they are taxed and FICAed and heavilly criminalize treating them in an inhuman manner. It's not right to have slaves. We should be willing to pay the real price of labour in this land.
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:18:27 AM PDT
by
mercy
To: grania; Issaquahking
Speaking of unions and illegals. I suppose you've heard the aflcio is supporting amnesty for all illegals now.
To: mercy
The only work the ones in my NJ neighborhood did was picking up the social services checks. Get a grip.
To: twas
If they INS can't or won't do their job, maybe the trade unions will start making some noise about illegal immigrants "taking-job-that-lazy-Americans-won't-do".
INS is not going to do anything about it, the unions are not going to stop it, the polititians do not give a sh*t if we want it stopped and the laws will NOT be enforced.
Welcome to the United States of Amerexico.
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:28:11 AM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: twas
No American were willing work perhaps?] What's the connection? These people simply were willing to work for less --- the same reason our jobs are being exported.
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:04:20 AM PDT
by
TopQuark
To: Black Agnes
Speaking of unions and illegals. I suppose you've heard the aflcio is supporting amnesty for all illegals now.Then, it's up to union members whose voices aren't heard by leadership (and everyone else for that matter) to call state authorities and complain.
There are only two things that will stop this outrage. (1) Grass roots anger. (2) A third party that wants to win, and gives us a viable pres-VP ticket that can articulate the issue and get a plurality of votes in each state.
Something like Tancredo, a proven patriot with a clean record and Ventura, who would get a lot of non-voters out, just like he did in Minnesota.
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:19:34 AM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: DAnconia55
Greed comes in the form of unions who raise prevailing wages over what the market will bear, distorting the market for the benefit of the lazy and the stupid. I suspect the truth lies somewhere between.
However, one of the two forms of greed is clearly illegal, has immediate negative consequences for the country and should be vigorously prosecuted.
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:28:01 AM PDT
by
skeeter
(Fac ut vivas)
To: madfly
ping
To: mercy
NOBODY wants to admit the TRUTH about our Latino workers. They are our slaves......>>>>>>>
What a CROCK !!.....
You must be on the Vicente Fox payroll, since you too are only WHINING for ANOTHER AMNESTY for our *LATINO* ILLEGALS.
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:40:33 AM PDT
by
txdoda
("Navy-brat")
To: Black Agnes
Look, I'm talking about the real US. Not the guido controlled scum hole you live in. The entire South and West (that's where food is grown and factories are still being built as apposed to rusting away) float upon the wet backs of brown people. It's a fact. We are all guilty.
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:44:37 AM PDT
by
mercy
To: txdoda
On the conrary. I think they should be shot on sight and any American kid who will not do the nasty entry level jobs should be allowed to starve. But we all know that's not going to happen is it? The only solution is to create a real guest worker program.
I bet you're one of thos whiners who complain about illegal workers the loudest but likes the cheap furniture in your house, the affordable restaurants where you under tip and all the chinese crap from Walfart. C'mon admit it. You benefit everyday from slave labour and you like it!
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:48:53 AM PDT
by
mercy
To: mercy
I bet you're one of thos whiners who complain about illegal workers the loudest but likes the cheap furniture in your house>>>>>>>>>>
Yep, most of my (cheap) furniture comes from garage sales....we're *middle class*, raised 4 kids, (WITHOUT gov. ANY freebies) I have to PAY for my housing, food, healthcare, and also PAY TAXES.
the affordable restaurants where you under tip >>>>>>>>>
HA HA !......lucky to be able to eat out @ local burger joint once a month. If I couldn't afford a decent tip for good service, I wouldn't be eating out. I've done some of that under-paid waitress work, Thank-you.
all the chinese crap from Walfart>>>>>>>>>>>
Try never to buy ANYTHING 'foreign made'.....but our own gov't is making that harder to do EVERYDAY. A trip to our local *walfart* sounds like you've left the country, and you get to WAIT in line (with your hamburger meat), behind some foreign speaking gal, cart piled FULL, litter of kids, and her LONE STAR CARD. (FREE groceries. compliments of the US TAXPAYERS)
You benefit everyday from slave labour and you like it! >>>>>>>>
Never had a maid or nanny, and have always done my own yard work. I do not think it's a *benefit* that MY TAXES continue to rise, in order to now build TWO more elementary schools for TOO many foreign speaking students, that some 30% ( or MORE ), will end up DROPPING OUT, I guess then to join a gang, deal drugs, loiter @ the 'day labor' corner, and natually partake in the birthing of MORE WELFARE KIDS.
The only solution is to create a real guest worker program. >>>>>>>>>
Maybe BUT........NO MORE REWARDS for our existing LAWBREAKERS, boot em' out, & let them get in line to come to the USA LEGALLY.......just as our LEGAL immigrants do.
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posted on
06/04/2003 11:46:44 AM PDT
by
txdoda
("Navy-brat")
To: Publius6961
Stiff penalties are only applied to Americans who have the termerity to try and put a stop to this. That really hacks off the government types, when someone makes them look bad.
To: Alberta's Child
One reason is that the contractor gets a superior product in addition to cost savings -- the training system for tradesmen in Ireland is so outstanding that the same guy who does carpentry work from Monday through Wednesday can also do electrical work on Thursday and plumbing on Friday I had heard about Irish tradesmen and when I got a chance I grabbed a crew. Nightmare. They were completely befuddled by a plumb bob. When it didn't line up they would pull it into center and pronounce it good. DWV from hell. Meandering electrical. Lots and lots of six inch putty. The BI swore that if he ever made it to Ireland he would camp out in the rain before he would ever go in a building.
Now that it's over, it was probably the funniest job I've ever done. Those guys were dangerous because they were absolutely cocksure that they knew what they were doing. Even the Mexicans were rolling their eyes.
To: txdoda
(WITHOUT gov. ANY freebies) === WITHOUT ANY gov. freebies.
sorry.....'bored' teenager, yakking at me.........he's long finished with the ONE yard he was lucky enough to be paid to do today. Since many of our *invaders* now beat on your door @ DAYLIGHT, wanting to mow your yard...veeery cheeep,
and slamming the door, cussing them out, does NO GOOD.
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posted on
06/04/2003 12:03:44 PM PDT
by
txdoda
("Navy-brat")
To: mercy; Black Agnes
Look, I'm talking about the real US. Not the guido controlled scum hole you live in. The entire South and West (that's where food is grown and factories are still being built as apposed to rusting away) float upon the wet backs of brown people. It's a fact. We are all guilty. You mean the scum hole where 2/3 of the worlds eggplant is grown?
Or the scum hole which is one of the largest national producers of peaches, cranberries, etc?
looky at what you get from Joisey
You're entitled to your feelings of guilt, don't expect the rest of us to.
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posted on
06/04/2003 12:12:03 PM PDT
by
katnip
To: mercy
We all benefit immensly from their peonage in EVERY aspect of our daily lives. Enlighten me. How is it exactly that "we all benefit"?
To: MARTIAL MONK
LOL. Thanks for the post.
I can assure you that the fellows my friend uses are among the most skilled laborers I've ever come across. The fact that many of them were his family members might have a lot to do with it.
To: mercy
I bet you're one of thos whiners who complain about illegal workers the loudest but likes the cheap furniture in your house You seem to be under the impression that cheap illegal labor lowers prices of goods, but to the best of my knowledge it only results in larger profit margins for the scumbag that employs them. I have never seen any evidence that they create lower prices.
You claim that illegals help improve quality of life for all of us in general - that they are a boon to American society, yet you are conveniently overlooking all of the costs being dished out by the taxpayers. What about the millions (billions?) of dollars they cost us in medical care, law enforcement, imprisonment, insurance write-offs, welfare, education, social security???? Why should the average Joe have to dish out more of his hard-earned money (taxes) to facilitate cheap illegal labor when it only results in padding the pockets of the scum that hires them?
To: occam's chainsaw
(mercy seems to be @ a loss for words....:o)...)
I have never seen any evidence that they create lower prices.>>>>>>>>
Me neither.....One of our local 'ethnic restaurants' owned and run by legals (I Guess ?) is also well known for employing ILLEGALS in the kitchen. Same restaurant is also known to be one of the MOST EXPENSIVE places in our small town to eat out.
Guess most of their 'clientele' receive all OUR *gov't freebies* which allow THEM to be able to afford to eat out often, and keep their fellow countrymen in business.
Do they help our 'local economy' ?? Not much.....they have created their own little 'city' in our area. Complete with their own ILLEGAL garages, plumbers, carpenters, fence builders, roofers, electricians and just about any other 'services' they require, that US TAX DOLLARS do not provide for them.
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posted on
06/04/2003 1:41:45 PM PDT
by
txdoda
("Navy-brat")
To: TopQuark
No American were willing work perhaps?Not so!
We PAY people NOT to work in this country.
THAT is why the illegals can get these jobs, no one else HAS to do them.
Quit giving MY (and your) money away to NOT work and just see how fast this situation will change.
Oh, sure, there will be rioting in the streets for a while, but things will level out.
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posted on
06/04/2003 1:48:02 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Don't believe every prophecy you read - ESPECIALLY *** ones)
To: mercy
We all benefit immensly from their peonage in EVERY aspect of our daily lives.>>>>>>>
see my post # 41 ...... and please list ALL MY benefits from an 'under-ground' network of immigrants (legal & ILLEGAL) performing these ILLEGAL services that IN FACT hurts our local LEGAL business owners, and CHEATS our local gov't out of LOCAL TAXES that ARE NOT being collected.
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posted on
06/04/2003 1:57:37 PM PDT
by
txdoda
("Navy-brat")
To: twas
All Contractors require the I-9 paperwork prior to employment. Illegals are employed by a few shysters in the business as a way to make more money and price their work low enough to get the job.
A developer/owner not wanting to pay the local costs will keep dangling the opportunity in front of low-ball marginal contractors at a stupidly low price to see if some will rise to the bait.
Honest contractors, even "merit shop" will not employ illegals. I have seen both union and non-union contractors attempt payroll scams by (1)kickbacks, (2)excess apprentices, (3)illegals, (4) pay below contract or legal requirements of the project. Established Contractors usually don't mess with such dangerous behavior.
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posted on
06/04/2003 2:03:08 PM PDT
by
KC Burke
To: Alberta's Child
Lots of illegal Poles working on construction in NYC who are preferred over Mexicans for the same reasons. Besides, many of the Irish who came here in the 80s/early 90s have moved back to Ireland.
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posted on
06/04/2003 2:12:44 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
To: txdoda
Every restaurant in NYC employs Mexicans in the Kitchen. Even the local Pizzerias in New York are now staffed by Mexicans.
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posted on
06/04/2003 2:14:10 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
To: katnip; Black Agnes
You forgot the BEST TOMATOES IN THE USA!
(San Marzano, near Naples, produces the best in the world).
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posted on
06/04/2003 2:15:21 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
To: Clemenza
There is nothing on earth though like yellow and white LONG ISLAND corn!
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posted on
06/04/2003 2:19:53 PM PDT
by
katnip
(Hooray for scum hole produce!)
To: mercy; Black Agnes
Last time we had mass legalization in '86, it did NOTHING to solve the problem. They only continued to bring more of their worthless families in through "family reunification," dumping their parents and wives on social services and their kids on our overcrowded public schools that those who pay property taxes must foot the bill for.
I would accept a "guest worker" provision under certain conditions: 1. We drop all the "family reunification" nonsense that is at the root of the social problems that mass immigration brings, 2. We diversify the national pool of those enrolled in the program and 3. We FOLLOW UP on those who are admitted and deport them if they fail to renew their work permits.
BTW: It takes a lot of balls to use ethnic slurs when you are behind a keyboard. Take your hypocricy and bleeding heart attitudes to DU.
49
posted on
06/04/2003 2:20:06 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
To: katnip
Unfortunately, more and more land in Eastern Suffolk is being taken up by idiots who seem to enjoy commuting 50-60 miles each way.
LI produces drikeable wines as well, although the best wine in NY State is produced up in the Finger Lakes.
50
posted on
06/04/2003 2:21:38 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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