Mysterious illness caused by pet prairie dogs is possibly monkeypox

The Associated Press ^ | 06/07/03 | The Associated Press

[Orange1998]

By The Associated Press

(6/07/03 - MADISON, WI) — A virus related to smallpox that has never been detected in the Western Hemisphere may be the cause of a mysterious disease spreading from pet prairie dogs to people across the upper Midwest, health officials said Saturday.

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Monkeypox has typically been found in West African rain forests, Hughes said. The death rate among infected humans has ranged from 1 percent to 10 percent.

Hughes said although monkeypox is spread primarily through rodents in Africa, scientists haven't ruled out person-to-person transmission.

"We're in the very early stages of classifying this virus," Hughes said. "We're not certain."

[Orange1998]

All these unheard of viruses floating around America. This could be serious.

[FairOpinion]

Thanks for the update. The last I heard was that people were getting sick, but at that time they hadn't identified it.

I wonder too if monkey pox have ever been seen in the US previously.

[visualops]

That's what happens when people do stupid stuff, like have what should otherwise be wild animals for pets.

[FairOpinion]

I just started to look, and what I am finding, I don't like.

WHERE did these prairie dogs come from?!

Monkey pox - is a rare smallpox like disease of children in central Africa. It is acquired from monkeys or wild squirrels, but does occasionally spread from man to man in unvaccinated communities. Antigenically cross-reacts with other poxviruses. Sick monkeys have not been identified, but apparently healthy animals have antibodies.

http://web.uct.ac.za/depts/mmi/jmoodie/pox2.html


Monkey Pox and Small Pox
In the 20 years since WHO documented that small pox has been eradicated, doctors and health departments no longer vaccinate children or adults to prevent small pox. Indeed, the WHO planned to destroy the remaining small pox viruses that have been kept by the CDC in the US and in Novosibirsk in Russia (ASA 94-6 ). Small pox vaccinations also protected against monkey pox (normally transmitted from monkeys to humans) and an unanticipated result has been an increase in monkey pox in humans. Not only is monkey pox increasing, but the number of human-to-human transmissions are also increasing. There have been over 170 new cases of monkey pox in the Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Zaire) since March 1997. While some cases may be chicken pox, there is enough concern that WHO is sending an investigating team in to the Congo.

http://www.asanltr.com/ASANews-97/poxvaccines.htm

[Orange1998]

Thanks for the informative update.

[FairOpinion]

As I am doing more research, it is supposed to be very rare and in Africa, and with all that,I think this should be FrontPage News, I hope the Admin Moderator agrees.

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http://www.whale.to/vaccines/monkeypox.htm

Monkeypox outbreak in Africa biggest ever - U.S.

December 15, 1997

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ATLANTA, Reuters [WS] via Individual Inc. :
The largest outbreak of human monkeypox ever reported has caused more than 500 people to become ill in the Democratic Republic of Congo, health officials said Thursday.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said children 16 and under accounted for 85 percent of the 511 human monkeypox cases that have occurred in the former Zaire since February 1996.

The CDC said it was the largest human monkeypox outbreak ever recorded. Five deaths were recorded, all of them of children aged between 4 and 8.

Monkeypox is a sister virus of smallpox and is generally spread by squirrels and monkeys in the rain forests of western and central Africa. Before the outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo, cases of monkeypox in humans were rare.

Dr. Brian Mahy of the CDC's National Center for Infectious Diseases said the outbreak does not suggest that the virus has become more virulent. ``We don't think that the virus has changed in any noticeable way since the early 1980s,'' he said.

The increase in monkeypox cases may have occurred because of a combination of exposure to animals and the end of smallpox vaccination programs after the illness was eliminated in 1980. The smallpox vaccine also protected against monkeypox.

``We know that there's been a lot of rebel fighting and disturbance in that area, which may have resulted in people going out of their houses to the bush a little bit more,'' Mahy said. ``That could provide much greater contact with the animals from which this disease is normally acquired.''

Monkeypox resembles smallpox, causing fever, swollen lymph nodes, respiratory illness and pus-filled blisters on the skin. There is no cure for the still rare and generally nonfatal viral disease, which generally lasts about a week.

Mahy said the outbreak of monkeypox does not suggest a resurgence of smallpox, which was eliminated worldwide in 1980. ``It is clearly quite different from smallpox, and it is not the sort of virus that could mutate into smallpox. There are major, major differences between the two,'' he said.

Last week the World Health Organization said it was not urging the reintroduction of smallpox vaccination programs in Africa to prevent monkeypox. Instead, it recommended limited contact with animals caught in the wild and with people who are believed to have become infected.

[Paleo Conservative]

Mysterious illness caused by pet prairie dogs is possibly monkeypox

If is monkeypox, wouldn't vaccinating against smallpox help?

[FairOpinion]

MONKEY POX
http://www.ksu.edu/research/animal/occhs/fact31.htm

SPECIES: Nonhuman primates, primarily macaques

AGENT: Orthopoxvirus Disease in humans is indistinguishable from smallpox, (Variola) i.e., serologic & clinical syndrome.

RESERVOIR AND INCIDENCE: Animals: Nine reported outbreaks in captive NHP's, primarily rhesus and cynomolgus. Has also been reported in languors, baboons, chimpanzees, orangutans, marmosets, gorillas, gibbons, and squirrel monkeys. The virus has been isolated from a wild squirrel. Man: The first human case of Monkey Pox was reported in 1970. Between 1970 and 1986, over 400 cases had been reported from tropical rain forested areas of West and Central Africa.

TRANSMISSION: Transmission can be via direct contact, aerosol, ingestion, or parenteral administration. Person to person transmission can occur.

DISEASE IN NONHUMAN PRIMATES: Usually exhibit a high morbidity and low mortality. Clinical signs may be inapparent or an animal may exhibit fever, lymphadenopathy, and cutaneous eruptions of the extremities, trunk, lips, or face. Cynomologus monkeys seem to be most severely affected. Death is uncommon except in infant monkeys.

DISEASE IN MAN: Signs in man include fever, sore throat, headache, and a vesiculopustular rash of peripheral distribution which clears up in 5 to 25 days. Severe complications include bronchopneumonia, vomiting, and diarrhea. Case fatality rate 10-15%. Although the disease is not common in man it is important from the standpoint of differentiating it from smallpox.

DIAGNOSIS: based on progression of lesions, histopathology and virus isolation. On histological examination epidermal cells contain eosinophilic cytoplasmic and intranuclear inclusions. ELISA

TREATMENT: Symptomatic.

PREVENTION/CONTROL: Sanitation, isolation. Vaccination with vaccinia virus is protective in both man and nonhuman primates.

BIOSAFETY LEVEL: BL-1

[FairOpinion]

"If is monkeypox, wouldn't vaccinating against smallpox help?"


Yes, it would. See my post #4.

[flutters]

I'm pinging my list.

[Paleo Conservative]

In the 20 years since WHO documented that small pox has been eradicated, doctors and health departments no longer vaccinate children or adults to prevent small pox. Indeed, the WHO planned to destroy the remaining small pox viruses that have been kept by the CDC in the US and in Novosibirsk in Russia (ASA 94-6 ). Small pox vaccinations also protected against monkey pox (normally transmitted from monkeys to humans) and an unanticipated result has been an increase in monkey pox in humans. Not only is monkey pox increasing, but the number of human-to-human transmissions are also increasing.

So what's really needed is a safer smallpox vaccination that can be routinely administered in areas where monkeypox is endemic in wild animals.

[FairOpinion]

Thanks. Note it's never been seen in the Western Hemisphere.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925127/posts

Mysterious illness caused by pet prairie dogs is possibly monkeypox

By The Associated Press
(6/07/03 - MADISON, WI) — A virus related to smallpox that has never been detected in the Western Hemisphere may be the cause of a mysterious disease spreading from pet prairie dogs to people across the upper Midwest, health officials said Saturday.

[FairOpinion]

Here is the full text of the original article, of which you posted an excerpt, so we keep it for archiving, in case there are developments.

Mysterious illness caused by pet prairie dogs is possibly monkeypox
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/60703_nat_monkeypox.html

By The Associated Press
(6/07/03 - MADISON, WI) — A virus related to smallpox that has never been detected in the Western Hemisphere may be the cause of a mysterious disease spreading from pet prairie dogs to people across the upper Midwest, health officials said Saturday.

Dr. James Hughes, director of the National Center for Infectious Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said a group of prairie dogs sold from a suburban Chicago pet distributor appears to be infected with the monkeypox virus, a member of the same viral family that causes smallpox but is not nearly as deadly.

Monkeypox has typically been found in West African rain forests, Hughes said. The death rate among infected humans has ranged from 1 percent to 10 percent.

Hughes said although monkeypox is spread primarily through rodents in Africa, scientists haven't ruled out person-to-person transmission.

"We're in the very early stages of classifying this virus," Hughes said. "We're not certain."

Since early May, 17 possible cases have been reported in Wisconsin in people as young as 4 and as old as 48. Two possible cases have been reported in Illinois and one has been reported in Indiana, health officials from all three states said.

They appeared to have been exposed to prairie dogs _ rodents whose popularity as pets has grown in recent years. They reported fever, coughs, rashes and swollen lymph nodes.

CDC and state health officials are still researching the disease with samples from the infected prairie dogs and humans, but the virus appears susceptible to the anti-viral drug Cidofovir, Hughes said. He isn't aware of any long-term aftereffects of monkeypox.

No one has died or become severely ill in the current outbreak, Hughes said. But four people in Wisconsin had to be hospitalized at Froedtert Memorial Lutheran Hospital, hospital spokesman Mark McLaughlin said. Two remained hospitalized in satisfactory condition Saturday.

Authorities don't believe bioterrorism was involved.

Investigators have traced the origin of the outbreak to a pet distributor in Villa Park, Ill. That distributor had a giant Gambian rat, indigenous to African countries, that may have infected batches of prairie dogs, Hughes said.

SK Exotics, a South Milwaukee pet distributor, bought prairie dogs from the Villa Park distributor and imported them to Wisconsin.

Two pet stores, Hoffer TropicLife Pets in Milwaukee and Rainbow Pets in Shorewood, a Milwaukee suburb, bought some dogs from SK Exotics.

More prairie dogs from Villa Park found their way to northern Wisconsin through a Wausau swap meet, said Dr. Mark Wegner, chief of the Wisconsin Communicable Disease Epidemiology Section.

Wisconsin agriculture officials have taken several emergency steps since word of the outbreak broke earlier this week.

The state Department of Health and Family Services issued an emergency order Friday banning the sale, importation and display of prairie dogs.

Also Friday, acting state veterinarian Dr. Robert Ehlenfeldt imposed quarantines on SK Exotics, Hoffer TropicLife Pets, Rainbow Pets and the Dorchester home of Tammy Kautzer, who apparently sells animals to swap meets, Gilson said.

The quarantines prohibit movement of any prairie dogs or mammals that come in contact with them.

"I wouldn't want to do it any other way than to follow the rules and find out exactly what's going on," said Eileen Whitmarsh, co-owner of Rainbow Pets.

Calls left at Kautzer's home and Hoffer TropicLife Pets were not returned. No listing could be found for SK Exotics.

Whitmarsh said she got two female prairie dogs from SK Exotics on May 5. Neither looked sick at first, she said, but one eventually began to look tired.

She said the store immediately quarantined them. SK Exotics took them back on May 12, she said.

Whitmarsh said she got sick in mid-May with blisters, coughing and a 101-degree fever. Hospital staff gave her aspirin, told her it was a viral infection and she went home, she said.

Whitmarsh said she didn't feel better and ended up going to West Allis Memorial Hospital five days later, where she was given antibiotics. She finally felt better around Memorial Day, she said.

Meanwhile, state and federal investigators are still trying to track down animals sold from the Villa Park distributor. The source of the Gambian rat is still unknown, they said.

Last Updated: Jun 7, 2003

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

You know, when I first read about these ill persons and their syptoms I thought, "Monkeypox isn't found here but this sure as heck sounds just like a Monkeypox outbreak". Wow.

[twntaipan]

Chinese in China eat exotic animals and we get SARS. Americans in American purchase exotic animals for pets and we get monkeypox.

Note to self: Only eat meatloaf/potatoes and only buy a dog or a cat for a pet.

[flutters]

From the New England Journal of Medicine

More than 20 years have passed since the last case of smallpox was confirmed and 18 years since the International Commission for the Certification of Smallpox Eradication of the World Health Organization (WHO) concluded that the global eradication of smallpox had been achieved.1,2 Now, new dilemmas confront the world. Could recent outbreaks of human monkeypox in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (known as Zaire from 1971 to 1997)3,4,5 represent the return of another form of smallpox?6 Could variola (smallpox) virus be used as a weapon of biologic terrorism? And what are the implications of the decision of the WHO to advise the destruction of all isolates of the smallpox virus in June 1999?7

Monkeypox in Humans

Recent reports of large outbreaks of possible cases of monkeypox in the Democratic Republic of the Congo have raised questions as to whether monkeypox could sustain itself as an infection transmitted from human to human, in the same way as smallpox.3,4,5 Smallpox vaccine protects against monkeypox, but no one is being immunized against smallpox anymore. Might monkeypox soon take over the ecologic niche left vacant by smallpox?6 The available data do not support this possibility.

The first case of human monkeypox was identified in 1970, and through 1979, 55 cases of monkeypox were confirmed by the WHO in forested areas of western and central Africa, of which 44 cases (80 percent) occurred in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.8,9,10 The clinical picture of monkeypox (Figure 1) resembles that of smallpox in Central Africa.

....Proponents of destruction argue that the genomes of reference strains have been cloned and sequenced,35,36,37 through cooperative efforts of American and Russian scientists.38,39,40,41,42 Moreover, monkeypox virus has proved a valuable surrogate for variola: its genomic DNA has more than 90 percent homology with that of variola virus. Monkeypox illness in humans and in macaques closely resembles smallpox in humans, and the disease can be prevented in animals by vaccination. In contrast, there is no satisfactory animal model of smallpox. Work with variola virus must be performed in a biosafety-level 4 laboratory, whereas studies with monkeypox require less stringent precautions. The views of developing countries where smallpox was formerly endemic must also be weighed, since they contributed the most money and human resources to the eradication of smallpox. These countries have advocated the destruction of variola-virus stocks.7

During 1995, scientists from the Department of Defense and the Department of Health and Human Services undertook to determine what, if any, studies involving the use of intact variola virus would be critical to public health and national security. It was decided that if a model of monkeypox infection in macaques proved unsatisfactory, studies would be warranted to find a technique to grow variola virus in a genetically or chemically altered mammalian host. The macaque monkeypox model indicated that studies of pathogenesis, the protective efficacy of vaccines, and the therapeutic potential of antiviral compounds could be conducted successfully (Jahrling P, U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases: personal communication).

....Conclusions Reports suggesting that monkeypox might replace smallpox as a serious epidemic threat are unsubstantiated, but the threat posed by the possible use of smallpox as a terrorist weapon is genuine. Because of the gravity of this threat, all known stocks of variola virus should be destroyed as soon as possible. The deliberate deployment of this virus must be discouraged by whatever means possible.

Poxvirus Dilemmas — Monkeypox, Smallpox, and Biologic Terrorism

[Ditter]

I have never understood the attraction of wild animals as pets. Dogs & cats are so much better.

[FairOpinion]

"monkeypox virus has proved a valuable surrogate for variola: its genomic DNA has more than 90 percent homology with that of variola virus. "

I hope monkey pox can't mutate into a more virulent version.

Also -- didn't the West Nile Virus also start with a few people getting sick in a concentrated area, in New York some 3 years ago, being also the first time it appeared in the Western Hemisphere, and we've not been able to get rid of it since.

[Mitchell]

Thanks for the ping.

[FairOpinion]

And here is a new thread on it, based on an article in the Washington Post.

Pox-Like Outbreak Reported
19 Ill in Midwest; CDC Issues Alert

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/925154/posts?page=1

[Fiddlstix]

Bump

[blam]

My smallpox vaccination I got in the early 50's should protect me against this virus.

[blam]

Memorable Shot: Smallpox vaccine has lasting effect (40's - 50's vaccination still good)

[enuu]

"This is an unusual event. As far as we can tell, there's never been a human or animal illness in the community setting in the Western hemisphere by a virus that is either a monkeypox virus or a very close variant of the monkeypox virus," said Hughes, "We've got a disease that's not been seen before in the Western Hemisphere, so it's prudent to take it very seriously."

[flutters]

Do you think it's a bio-weapon?

[wardaddy]

Yer little buddies...

[bonesmccoy]

Indeed... amazing!

In spite of WH Directives, the US Public Health people have failed to protect the US population from biological threat due to this class of viruses.

[patriciaruth]

buy a dog or a cat for a pet.

Alas, dogs and cats can transmit diseases to humans also.

[Paleo Conservative]

If it is monkeypox, shouldn't that be rather suspicious considering it's a disease that is not native to North America? How could this disease get to here from Africa without human intervention?

[af_vet_rr]

I don't know where the prairie dogs came from, but as I posted in another thread, I really don't think they should be pets. If you have ever seen a praire dog town, you would see what I mean, they should be living amongst a lot of other prairie dogs, not somebody's pet.

It's the equivalent of having a large dog and keeping it confined to a small room.

[patriciaruth]

How could this disease get to here from Africa without human intervention?

Evidentally a human intervened and bought a Gambian rat for his pet store which spread the disease to his prairie dogs.

[patriciaruth]

Anybody know if Gambian rats, etc, have to stay in quarantine before being allowed free range in the U.S.?

[bonesmccoy]

good question!

We should similarly be inquisitive about how West NILE Virus shows up in Manhattan in 2000????

[Paleo Conservative]

We should similarly be inquisitive about how West NILE Virus shows up in Manhattan in 2000????

Across the street from the UN building? Surely it was just a coincidence.

[FairOpinion]

"We should similarly be inquisitive about how West NILE Virus shows up in Manhattan in 2000???? "

I agree. I read quite a bit about it and the natural methods quoted don't seem to stand up. Cuba, on the other hand has done quite a bit of research on it, and Castro collaborated with Iraq on some "research", which may have been bioterror weapon development. The West Nile Virus may not have turned out to be as threatening, as they may have figured, but it's here with us, has been found again this year. See below:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925177/posts

[Squantos]

Eradicating the vermin as fast as I can pull the trigger......:o)

Funny thing happened in New Mexico once. A Sod Poodle relocation effort was under way by the local huggers and they were giving out maps as to where to take the "captured" SP's in question.

Standing there in our Sierra and Hornaday logo clad camo Baseball hats we kept getting stares as we asked for better directions to the release site.........:o)

Stay Safe

[Free Trapper]

IIRC,I read an article quite a while back that said Iraq had been experimenting with both monkeypox and camelpox,FWIW.

The illegal bushmeat trade from Africa could spread all kinds of diseases,just as both the legal and illegal trade in wildgame food and pets from all over the world can.

Most people don't realize how much trade in wild food and pets,legal or illegal,there is worldwide.

[Lion Den Dan]

That's what happens when people do stupid stuff, like have what should otherwise be wild animals for pets.

"---wild animals for targets."

[Double Tap]

ROTFLMAO!!!

Hopefully, you made their little transplants feel welcome.

[Calpernia]

From my HSSC First Alert Notifiation:

At least 19 people in three Midwestern states have contracted a disease related
to smallpox, marking the first outbreak of the life-threatening illness in the
United States, federal heath officials said yesterday.

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, concerned that the
illness could spread, issued a nationwide alert to doctors and public health
officials to be on the lookout for more cases.

"We have an outbreak," said James Hughes, director of the CDC's National Center
for Infectious Diseases in Atlanta. "I'd like to keep it relatively small. I
don't want any more cases. We're doing everything we can to try to contain
this."

The disease, known as monkeypox, usually only occurs in central and western
Africa. It is caused by a virus known as an orthopox virus, which is the family
of viruses that includes the smallpox virus, one of the most dangerous diseases
known to man and a feared biological weapon.

Officials said there was no indication that bioterrorism was involved. The
disease was apparently spread by a type of rodent known as a prairie dog, which
have become popular as pets. The animals may have acquired the infection from
another creature, known as a Gambian giant rat, sold by the same dealer of
exotic animals, officials said.

The monkeypox virus causes symptoms that are very similar to smallpox -- fever,
headache, cough and an extremely painful rash of pus-filled sores that spreads
across the body.

While much about monkeypox virus is unclear, it is not believed to be as deadly
as smallpox. Monkeypox is believed to have a mortality rate of between 1 percent
and 10 percent, compared with a mortality rate of about 30 percent for smallpox.

The monkeypox virus is believed to spread through physical contact with a sick
person or infected animal, or through infected body fluids, although it is not
believed to be as easily spread as smallpox, which is highly infectious.

Monkeypox is untreatable, although there is some indication that an antiviral
drug may have some usefulness. Because the disease has never been seen before in
this part of the world, the severity of the threat is not completely clear. All
patients and infected animals have been isolated to prevent spread of the
disease. The smallpox vaccine is believed to be protective against the monkeypox
virus. The federal government recently launched a campaign to vaccinate
thousands of emergency workers against smallpox so the country would be prepared
in the event of a bioterrorist attack.

"This is an unusual event. As far as we can tell, there's never been a human or
animal illness in the community setting in the Western hemisphere by a virus
that is either a monkeypox virus or a very close variant of the monkeypox
virus," said Hughes, who held a hastily arranged telebriefing last evening to
announce the outbreak after CDC scientists confirmed that a monkeypox virus or
one very close to it was involved.

"We've got a disease that's not been seen before in the Western Hemisphere, so
it's prudent to take it very seriously," Hughes said in a telephone interview
after the briefing.

Of the 19 cases reported so far, four of the victims have been hospitalized;
none has died, Hughes said.

The outbreak came to light on May 16, when a 3 1/2-year-old child became ill,
according to John Melski, who treated the child at the Marshfield Clinic in
Marshfield, Wis.

The child's parents had bought two prairie dogs as a Mother's Day present for
the child's mother. Both the mother and father subsequently became ill as well,
although all appear to have recovered.

Officials determined that the prairie dogs had been purchased from a Villa Park,
Ill., exotic pet dealer, who also became ill. The dealer also had a Gambian rat,
which was ill. It is believed that animal passed the virus to the prairie dogs
the dealer was selling.

The dealer sold the animals to SK Exotics, a Milwaukee pet distributor, which
then sold the apparently infected prairie dogs to two pet stores in Milwaukee
and at a "pet swap" in northern Wisconsin.

Most of the rest of the cases have been reported in the Milwaukee area, and are
believed to have involved people who either worked at the stores or who handled
the animals in the stores. Seventeen of the cases occurred in Milwaukee, with
one case each having been reported in Illinois and Indiana.

Melski and his colleagues at the Marshfield Clinic contacted state health
officials when they identified what appeared to be an orthopox virus in the sick
family. State health officials then contacted the CDC, which confirmed the
involvement of a monkeypox-like virus yesterday, prompting the nationwide alert
and telebriefing.

The state of Wisconsin has temporarily banned the sale of prairie dogs.

"The full impact is hard to predict," said Seth Foldy, Milwaukee's health
commissioner. "Our goal would be to isolate and eliminate the virus from both
human and animal populations to the best of our ability. We do not know if it is
the kind of agent that would or could thrive in North America, and we're not
very interested in finding out that it is."

Further tests are planned to confirm the identity of the virus.

The outbreak comes as the global epidemic of severe acute respiratory syndrome
(SARS) appears to be coming under control.

"This is yet another reminder of why it's important to learn as much as you can
about diseases that occur in faraway places," Hughes said.

[Calpernia]

Monkeypox. I wonder if that is why there was similarities to HIV referenced in earlier threads.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Pet prairie dogs?

[TexasCowboy]

I wonder how many of those little varmints we'd need to start a colony at Dietz's Range in New Braunfels?
That would be a lot more fun than targets!

HEY! PETA PEOPLE!!
Can you imagine what a .50 caliber round would do to the head of a prairie dog?

[visualops]

Complacency is a dangerous thing.
To ever assume a disease has been "eradicated" and thusly behave as if it and related diseases pose no further threat, is foolish. The fact is, all the diseases that most people assume are history, are still present in the Third World, including the Plague.

[Free Trapper]

Bubonic plague still pops up on a regular basis in some of our Western states.

You might want to take care how you sling the words "third world" around.HeHe. ;O)

[P.O.E.]

Anybody know if Gambian rats, etc, have to stay in quarantine before being allowed free range in the U.S.?

Please excuse me for posting my own personal paranoia, but this has bothered me for some time: What is to stop a human with a particularly nasty disease from being purposefully put on a plane to the US, and funded to travel as far and fast as they can (subways, airports, Penn Station, etc.) to spread maximum contagion.

[Paleo Conservative]

Monkeypox. I wonder if that is why there was similarities to HIV referenced in earlier threads.

Zero similarities. HIV is an RNA virus which is why it mutates so quickly. Orthopox viruses like monkeypox store their genetic code as DNA, so they have a much lower rate of mutation.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Statement: " A virus related to smallpox that has never been detected in the Western Hemisphere...."

Response: Yet another application of the doctrine "Our Diversity Is Our Strength!" Diseases that we have never heard about. Asian diseases, African diseases, South American diseases. Soon the parasitical worms and flukes. Wait until one of these "Diverse" diseases explodes. It is rare that one is given the opportunity of seeing a false doctrine exposed as dangerous, by raw brute fact.

[Calpernia]

That is not what I meant. We have a thread catalogued someplace that referenced something with the development. I can't look for it now. I'm on my way out.

[Eaker]

Yer little buddies...

Eaker