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Iraq Had Secret Labs, Officer Says
Los Angeles Times ^ | June 8, 2003 | Bob Drogin

Posted on 06/08/2003 10:32:39 AM PDT by Mister Magoo

Iraq Had Secret Labs, Officer Says

Goal was to someday rebuild chemical and biological weapons, general alleges.

By Bob Drogin Times Staff Writer

June 8, 2003

BAGHDAD -- Saddam Hussein's intelligence services set up a network of clandestine cells and small laboratories after 1996 with the goal of someday rebuilding illicit chemical and biological weapons, according to a former senior Iraqi intelligence officer.

The officer, who held the rank of brigadier general, said each closely guarded weapons team had three or four scientists and other experts who were unknown to U.N. inspectors. He said they worked on computers and conducted crude experiments in bunkers and back rooms in safe houses around Baghdad.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: intelligence; iraq; iraqiofficers; iraqwmd; labs; wmd

1 posted on 06/08/2003 10:32:39 AM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: Mister Magoo
How did the editors of the Times let this article get in the paper? Somebody must of slipped up.
2 posted on 06/08/2003 10:37:13 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Mister Magoo; backhoe
Thanks for posting this.

Backhoe for your indexing project.
3 posted on 06/08/2003 10:39:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: Uncle Hal
OK, case settled. Why all the hub-bub?
4 posted on 06/08/2003 10:56:09 AM PDT by IonInsights
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To: Mister Magoo
The LA Times is priniting something adds creedence to the Bush admin??
5 posted on 06/08/2003 10:58:45 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: cardinal4
In the wake of the NYT scandals to sit on this kind of story and potential 'exclusive' would ruin them. This is a chance for them to gain some supremacy and add to credibility by publishing all credible stories.
6 posted on 06/08/2003 11:00:47 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Mister Magoo
Saddam Hussein's intelligence services set up a network of clandestine cells and small
laboratories after 1996 with the goal of someday rebuilding illicit chemical
and biological weapons, according to a former senior Iraqi intelligence officer.



"The only mistake I made was not having nuclear weapons before invading Kuwait."

---rough paraphrase attributed to Saddam after his army was expelled from Kuwait
7 posted on 06/08/2003 11:05:44 AM PDT by VOA
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To: cardinal4
The LA Times is priniting something adds creedence to the Bush admin??

I read the LA Times about three times a week (99% for opposition research).
They are a very mixed bag...lots of crap reporting (the pillage of the National
Iraqi Museum was still reported as fact a week after all the truth was out).

And then they print something like this.

It's like I say when I see an article like this: the experienced editors are
too stoned/drunk by 4PM Friday so that the junior editors (who've not yet gotten their
full training in journalistic mendacity) accidentally let the truth slip out.
8 posted on 06/08/2003 11:10:54 AM PDT by VOA
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator; William McKinley
More evidence to be ignored........
9 posted on 06/08/2003 11:12:11 AM PDT by TomB
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To: VOA
The only mistake I made was not having nuclear weapons before invading Kuwait."

Although in many scenarios nuke weapons for the most part will keep an adversary at bay. However small nations have few nukes and crude designs with rudimentary delivery systems, they can be taken out if the adversary has good intelligence. If they do use nukes against a force with superior nuclear fire power, it’s the end of them.

10 posted on 06/08/2003 11:36:35 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Uncle Hal
How did the editors of the Times let this article get in the paper? Somebody must of slipped up.

Guess they didn’t get that “Bush is an evil mastermind that fooled the entire world” memo from the DNC.
11 posted on 06/08/2003 12:31:54 PM PDT by Eric Esot
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To: demlosers
”Although in many scenarios nuke weapons for the most part will keep an adversary at bay. However small nations have few nukes and crude designs with rudimentary delivery systems, they can be taken out if the adversary has good intelligence.”

But that’s the problem, isn’t it? We have had 12 years to create an intelligence capability to find out what, where and how Saddam created WMDs. Yet here we are. We don’t know where they are and what was done with them. What makes you think we have a better handle on the Korean weapons, or the Iranian weapons? Let’s say you get the word that Saddam II is going to launch his crude nuke at you with his rudimentary delivery system (say, a Toyota pickup). Knowing what we know now – quick – where do we aim?

”If they do use nukes against a force with superior nuclear fire power, it’s the end of them.”

Fine. But in the meantime how many thousand of your troops are fried? And what do you mean, “the end of them?” Genocide?

Armchair strategists! ((sound of disgust))

12 posted on 06/08/2003 12:34:36 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: Mister Magoo
registered members only?
13 posted on 06/08/2003 12:39:10 PM PDT by paul51
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To: Mister Magoo
He said they worked on computers and conducted crude experiments in bunkers and back rooms in safe houses around Baghdad.

I wonder if he might give us an address of just one of these “labs”?

14 posted on 06/08/2003 12:44:10 PM PDT by Duan
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To: moneyrunner
Armchair strategists! ((sound of disgust))

Just a possible scenario; don't get your panties in a wad.

15 posted on 06/08/2003 2:16:29 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Mister Magoo
Bumping for later read. Thanks!
16 posted on 06/08/2003 4:44:15 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld,Rice 2004)
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To: demlosers
they can be taken out if the adversary has good intelligence.

Leaves us out then.

17 posted on 06/08/2003 4:52:44 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: demlosers
"Just a possible scenario; don't get your panties in a wad."

Sorry. I thought about skipping the sarcasm. I should have.

The point I was trying to make is that the kind of intelligence that allows a country to go after the bad guys personally is usually found only in movies. Sort of like the Westerns when I was growing up where the good guy shot the gun out of the hand of the bad guy.

In real life, the good guys used shotguns with buckshot and not only didn't wait for the bad guy to draw, he had his gun cocked looking for a killing shot.

Love and peace.

18 posted on 06/08/2003 5:09:30 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: VOA
Had he had and used the weapons then, Baghdad and surroundings would now be hardened glass and other relics of the country and he would no longer exist (if he does now...)
19 posted on 06/08/2003 5:17:13 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus (RATS are scum with poor memories)
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To: Mister Magoo
Checked LATimes, site ok. Saw it first in my ultra liberal newpaper Albany Times Union.
Why isn't Drudge listing this item?
Doesn't smell right.
How do we put this up to top the page?
20 posted on 06/08/2003 5:44:33 PM PDT by BilLies
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To: Mister Magoo
Darn, Tuesday we will be on the road all day driving from South of Houston to Tulsa. Please take good notes, Freepers!
21 posted on 06/08/2003 7:35:04 PM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, Mistress of Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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