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Airline Confiscates Empty Cigar Lighters Packed in Checked Luggage
Cigar Aficionado ^ | May 27, 2003 | James Suckling

Posted on 06/08/2003 1:05:01 PM PDT by ml/nj

Something Special in the Air

I am sitting on American Airlines Flight 1844, to Chicago from Santa Ana, Calif., as I write this story, and I am trying to control my rage. A Screwdriver has helped take off the edge.

About 30 minutes ago, American Airlines agents took two empty S.T. Dupont X-tend lighters out of my checked-in bag, and said that they needed to be destroyed. They claimed they were "dangerous goods" that could endanger the lives of my fellow travelers -- apparently the equivalent of weapons of mass destruction in today's airline world.

I was actually at the gate waiting for the flight when my name was called over the loudspeaker. "Sir, they have found two cigarette lighters in your bag and they need to be destroyed," said a woman who was working the check-in desk, rather officiously.

"Those two lighters are worth about $300," I said. "You can't just destroy them."

"I suggest you go and speak to the American Airlines employee who checked you in, but I think that you might miss your flight," she said, not really bothered and obviously saying her comment in hopes that I would relent to losing my lighters.

She looked horrified when I hightailed it towards the check-in desk. It meant going through the security gauntlet again, which included taking off my belt, shoes, eyeglasses and IWC stainless steel watch -- thank God I left my flak jacket at home.

Ms. Karen Lawson, the American Airlines compliance officer at John Wayne Airport (what would the Duke do in this situation?) couldn't have been less helpful. It was as if she was speaking to bin Laden himself as she explained that such dangerous goods as my lighters should be immediately destroyed. But she would give me two hours to find someone to pick them up, if I wished. "I can't give you any more time," she said, "and I am doing you a favor giving you two hours."

I explained that my 95-year-old grandmother, whom I had been visiting in California, was not up to the task of retrieving my lighters from her wretched grasp. "Couldn't you just give me the lighters back?" I asked politely.

"I am unauthorized to do that, and I could be fined if I did so," she said. She looked very annoyed that I was still standing in front of her.

I changed my tactic. "I fly more than 60,000 miles a year with American Airlines and I only have two hours to find someone to get my lighters? Surely, you can help me somehow?"

She said, "That's all I can do for you."

There was no use continuing. I spun around and ran for the security check to make my way to Gate 8 for the flight to Chicago. But I was really upset. It wasn't the money lost. It was something more disturbing. I felt that American Airlines had taken something more from me. Those were my lighters, personal things that I valued. One of them had traveled around the world with me. They were like old friends.

I understood and welcomed the security measures in the airport, but it all seemed so arbitrary. I had checked in lighters (empty of butane) on American Airline flights from the Dominican Republic to Miami as well as Miami to Las Vegas with no problem, a fact I explained to Ms. Lawson. But she would have nothing to do with it. Perhaps she wanted the lighters herself?

In any case, I hope she -- or whoever else ended up with them -- enjoys my lighters. And I hope she enjoyed the opportunity of being some sort of mini-dictator. What she should have done is offered to mail the lighters to my office in New York. Or, she could have simply said that she was extremely sorry for the loss. But she didn't care, and attitude like that is why few will shed tears when another few thousand American Airlines employees are fired, or their company closes. But I wish her, and American, no bad will.

Maybe she didn't care because I was a smoker. I certainly didn't have any prejudice for her officious, unthinking demeanor.

We all know what it is like to be a cigar smoker in America, so we are used to being treated poorly. Don't check your lighter in your luggage. Don't smoke in public places. Don't buy Cuban cigars. Don't inflict secondhand smoke on others.

I just wish some people could say it all with a smile.


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KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity
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What insanity!

Besides everything else, I guess I wonder why the Airline wouldn't charge the guy ten bucks and mail his dangerous cargo wherever he wanted it mailed. Treating customers like that is a sure path to bankruptcy.

ML/NJ

1 posted on 06/08/2003 1:05:01 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
F*cking Nazi bastards.
2 posted on 06/08/2003 1:11:49 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: ml/nj
A Screwdriver has helped take off the edge.

I'm surprised they let him have one of those!

3 posted on 06/08/2003 1:14:24 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Bumperootus!)
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To: ml/nj
Just one more reason why we drive everywhere these days. Of course that is only possible since we are retired and have no schedules to meet. We've got so many AA free air miles accumulated, it's a pity that we don't feel inclined to use them because of all of the silliness going on at airports. We can only hope they will wise up one of these days.
4 posted on 06/08/2003 1:16:04 PM PDT by basil
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To: ml/nj
This guy is an idiot. He should have told them to take their tickets and stuff them where the sun doesn't shine and then filed suit against the little Nazi that swiped his lighters. Why is it that people willingly subject themselves to a trip through Nazi Germany (i.e., the US air transportation system), then complain when some dimwitted twit steals their stuff, then continue to pay them for the service???
5 posted on 06/08/2003 1:20:35 PM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: basil
can't drive over the atlantic.

There are rules in how to pack a gun, perhaps there is rules on how to pack lighters? I carried an old zippo (worth over 300 cents) in a suitcase without this happening about four months ago. What if he carried the lighter in his pocket? Something is missing to this story.
6 posted on 06/08/2003 1:20:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: All
Does anyone know if a Leatherman multi-tool is allowed in checked luggage?
7 posted on 06/08/2003 1:22:42 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: ml/nj
Cigar Dave needs to hear about that incident. Here's his website address: http://smokethis.com/home/index.shtml
8 posted on 06/08/2003 1:24:22 PM PDT by Dixielander
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To: ml/nj
But I was really upset. It wasn't the money lost. It was something more disturbing. I felt that American Airlines had taken something more from me. Those were my lighters, personal things that I valued. One of them had traveled around the world with me. They were like old friends.

The author apparently treats his "old friends" in a fairly cavalier manner. The part of American Airlines' web site dealing with baggage policy states clearly "Ask before you pack your luggage or carry on board the following items, as they may be classified as dangerous goods or weapons which are restricted for transport by air ... Flammable Liquids or Solids: Fuel, paints, gas torches (including micro-torches and torch lighters) ...

A little due diligence on the author's part before traveling could have prevented his expensive surprise. Sorry, but I can't buy into the "poor li'l oppressed cigar smoker me" spin on this one.

(And another thing: I just can't see paying $150 for a freaking lighter. But hey, if you really want a $300 pair of socks, this is America I guess ...)

9 posted on 06/08/2003 1:25:15 PM PDT by strela (Just shoot me now, 'cause I've done it all.)
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To: Welsh Rabbit
Does anyone know if a Leatherman multi-tool is allowed in checked luggage?

Go to www.tsa.gov and download the list of prohibited items.

The multi-tool is probably okay in checked luggage.

10 posted on 06/08/2003 1:25:59 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: ml/nj
It's not a license to steal. I've had to remind them of that twice now as they tried to take nice pens. Call security (local cops on airport duty) and tell them the airline is stealing. Of course, you have to have the time as you will probably miss your flight.

We have to stand up people. Do you feel safer? I don't.
11 posted on 06/08/2003 1:26:34 PM PDT by KCmark (I am NOT a partisan.)
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To: Welsh Rabbit
My experience shows that you can pack a Leatherman in your checked suitcase, including for overseas travel.
12 posted on 06/08/2003 1:26:40 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: ml/nj
Sue the B*stards! Lose weight, lose sleep, wake up screaming from the PTSD induced by their irresponsible and reckless behavior.
13 posted on 06/08/2003 1:28:45 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (White Devils for Sharpton. We're bad. We're Nationwide)
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To: ml/nj
Go to American Airlines' website and write an email to them. Or call. Whatever.

As much money as they are losing each day, I doubt it will matter much to them if you tell them you won't fly on their airline anymore, but you'll feel better for having vented.

14 posted on 06/08/2003 1:31:11 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: strela
A little due diligence on the author's part before traveling could have prevented his expensive surprise.

Do you mean due diligence like emptying the lighters before packing them? Why would an airline still want to confiscate empty lighters from checked baggage stowed in an inaccessible part of the plane? What more was he supposed to do?

-PJ

15 posted on 06/08/2003 1:32:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: agitator
This guy is an idiot.

Your right, first off, they were checked in, he had no access to them, secondly, if its an issue, they can have them mailed back to him, 3rd, if they gave him 2 hours, he should have said okay, and called a lawyer up to retrieve them, and filed suit. Even threating to call a lawyer to retrive them, would have scared the hell out of them.

16 posted on 06/08/2003 1:32:47 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
lesson, carry lighter in your pocket.
17 posted on 06/08/2003 1:33:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: ml/nj
It is becomming obvious from reports that the screeners at John Wayne are purely and simply thieves, on the same level as say, Nigerian Customs Inspectors.

On the other hand I have already figured out that anything that matters needs to be Fed-Ex'd the day before

So9

18 posted on 06/08/2003 1:36:17 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: HAL9000; Beelzebubba
Thanks!
19 posted on 06/08/2003 1:36:17 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Sonny M
"Even threating to call a lawyer to retrive them, would have scared the hell out of them."

No it wouldn't have. AA doesnt care. They know that all the lawsuits in the world can be filed against them now and since most of their employees know they will probably go bankrupt. And once AA goes belly up, all of those lawsuits are moot. So don't expect any good treatment on Delta or AA. I'm sure NorthWest isn't far behind.
20 posted on 06/08/2003 1:37:40 PM PDT by Beck_isright (When Senator Byrd landed on an aircraft carrier, the blacks were forced below shoveling coal...)
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