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Democrats locked out of the process
Contra Costa Times ^ | June 8, 2003 | DANIEL BORENSTEIN

Posted on 06/08/2003 8:22:03 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy

WITH REPUBLICANS controlling the House, the Senate and the presidency, Democrats on Capitol Hill feel isolated.

"We might as well get in a bus and go to some motel like the Texas legislators," said Rep. Pete Stark, D-Fremont. "We literally have been locked out of the process."

Democrats dominate the East Bay's congressional delegation: Stark, George Miller of Martinez, Ellen Tauscher of Alamo and Barbara Lee of Oakland.

Miller and Stark have been around long enough to remember much of the four decades that their party controlled the House of Representatives. That ended with the Newt Gingrich revolution in 1994.

From then until 2001, they had a Democratic president's veto threat to counter Republicans. For the next two years, they clung to a thread as a nearly evenly divided Senate provided Democrats some protection. That's over: Republicans rule.

(Excerpt) Read more at bayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: congress; democrats; handwringers; newnormal; whining

1 posted on 06/08/2003 8:22:03 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Time for a violin concerto...
2 posted on 06/08/2003 8:31:09 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: Bubba_Leroy; JohnHuang2; MadIvan; TonyInOhio; MeeknMing; itreei; jd792; Molly Pitcher; muggs; ...
NUFF SAID
3 posted on 06/08/2003 8:33:26 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Just because your paranoid .....dont mean they're not after you !)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
prefect...say no more...nudge..nudge..wink..wink... :)
4 posted on 06/08/2003 8:35:55 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Hehehe....Ahem...I mean; I'm real broke up about that.
5 posted on 06/08/2003 8:40:07 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: PhiKapMom
Ping.
6 posted on 06/08/2003 8:41:51 PM PDT by Graewoulf
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Turnabout is a mother, isn't it, guys?
7 posted on 06/08/2003 8:42:59 PM PDT by RichInOC (...call me back after you've been in the wilderness for another twenty years...)
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To: sweetliberty
Off course in the state of California the Republicans are locked out of the process. I don't see any crying from the democRATS on that. However you can see the results. The state is in a big time downward spiral headed by Red Davis. Parley
8 posted on 06/08/2003 8:43:21 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"We might as well get in a bus and go to some motel like the Texas legislators," said Rep. Pete Stark, D-Fremont. "We literally have been locked out of the process."

The Texas Runaways didn't head for Oklahoma because they were locked out of the process. They skeedaddled because they wanted to block the process.

It's what Dimocrats do.

9 posted on 06/08/2003 8:46:55 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Of course, the fact the dems controlled everything for almost 40 years doesn't seem to come to their remembrance. All they can think about is that they're not in charge anymore. Poor babies ...???
10 posted on 06/08/2003 8:48:29 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Great article, but we need to run the next election like we're twenty points behind.
11 posted on 06/08/2003 8:49:03 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Liz
Ping.
12 posted on 06/08/2003 8:49:58 PM PDT by Graewoulf
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To: Richard Kimball
 we need to run the next election like we're twenty points behind.

That's what is worrisome.  I'm seeing too much resistance
to widening the appeal.  If anything, the single issue
conservatives want to shrink the tent and get rid of heretics.
Bush is a shoo-in, but if we want a bigger piece of the Senate,
something has to give.  Too many sno-cone Republicans.
13 posted on 06/08/2003 8:58:35 PM PDT by gcruse (Superstition is a mind in chains.)
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To: CyberAnt
Just wait until January 2005, when they can't even filibuster, no matter how many quisling RINOs they can sweet-talk! The whining will be deafening!
14 posted on 06/08/2003 8:58:59 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"We literally have been locked out of the process."

Welcome to the 70s. Live withit. We did.

15 posted on 06/08/2003 9:01:57 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Why should the Republicans work with the democrats on anything when the Democrats routinely: 1. Lie about the motives of Republicans. 2. Obstruct the political process. 3. Pander and demogogue almost every issue. Fact is, the democrats deserve exactly what they're getting. My only gripe is that the Republicans can't seem to dish it out to the Democrats like they do when they're in power. Trace
16 posted on 06/08/2003 9:04:42 PM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: farmfriend
Reposted Rant:

My Liberal Friends have a problem...an inability to admit that Bill Clinton has destroyed their party. They can't do this, because to do so would be to admit that they have supported an immoral man, because they themselves have acted without morals.

Time was, the Democratic party's proposed reason for being was to "protect the little guy." They were the party of unions in an age when the boss man in the coal mines, would kill you for organizing, and when that boss man held entire towns hostage in the grip of low wages and the "Company Store." It was the era of "robber barons" and the Trusts, of corrupt government and Boss Tweed.

But time passed, and the Democratic ideal engineered many of these problems away, with the aid of real common men. And as many problems dropped away, it became clear that the Power that the party sought could disappear as well...if there were no more victims. We had OSHA, we had a minimum wage, we had raft upon raft of entitlements. The Age of Unions had past...but the Unions, like the Democratic Party, remain, held up by the money and the power.

I ask my Liberal Friends, "your party was started to protect the little guy from the abuse of power, and yet, you support an impeached, womanizing, sexist, accused rapist party-boy, who has lied under the law to judges, who has been disciplined by the courts, who has had his law license revoked, who has lied to his wife, who has lied to his child, who has groped women in the workplace, who has pulled business strings to get huge speaking fees that pay off his millions of dollars of lawyer fees when everyone he has ever touched had to pay their own legal fees for what he did to them. How does this, exactly, square with a supposed central core of trying to protect the little guy from the misuse of power? Your leader, and he is still your leader, is a rich, privileged white guy who abuses women and who only has use for minorities when he needs the votes. How is he in any way different from a Wall Street banker of the last Century, with his feet up on the desk and his secretary in his lap, one hand in the till and one up her dress?"

And you know, the general response is "Well, the Republicans made him do it!"

We are in the Last Days...of the Democratic Party. Just like an alcoholic can't recover until he has admitted there is a problem, these poor fools are doomed, because they will never admit that Bill Clinton, and their support of him, has destroyed whatever limited credibility their party had retained. Any noise they make here on out is merely the death rattle of a corpse. Will the last Democrat please contact us in a year's time so that we may assign a detail to throw your party on the "Dustbin of History" next to Communism, Fascism, and all the other failed ideologies that my Party has destroyed.

You lost the House, the Senate, the Presidency, and are soon to lose control of the Supreme Court, and you still seem to revere the immoral bastard that has done it to you. And in the face of having been handed your asses on a platter, your only defense is calling Bush an idiot. Your party deserves to die, you idiots.

17 posted on 06/08/2003 9:12:36 PM PDT by 50sDad (Anymore of THAT and I'm turning the car right around and we're going home!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"We might as well get in a bus and go to some motel like the Texas legislators," said Rep. Pete Stark, D-Fremont. "We literally have been locked out of the process."

Pete, that is a wonderful idea.

I tell you what, take Reverend Al and Jesse with you, and I will contribute toward making this happen.

18 posted on 06/08/2003 9:15:31 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: 50sDad
Great rant. But of course, in 50 years time, the pendulum will begin to swing the other way.
19 posted on 06/08/2003 9:19:51 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I can't wait for when the whining turns to resigning.

Who will go first? Fritz? Byrd? Dashole? Latenburg? (Lat has done it before, for the same reason)

Is it too early to start the pool?
20 posted on 06/08/2003 9:49:47 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber!)
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To: 50sDad
" My Liberal Friends have a problem...an inability to admit that Bill Clinton has destroyed their party."

The media keeps telling us how adored and revered Clinton is by Democrats. And yet, every Dem I know makes the ugh sound when Clinton's name is mentioned,but,of course,not as loudly as I make it :-).
21 posted on 06/08/2003 11:26:52 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Graewoulf
Dumbocrats carping about their minority status remind me of spoled children sulking b/c they can't get their own way. Why don't the Dims just grow up.
22 posted on 06/09/2003 2:31:52 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"it's like going into the woods and screaming." said the demoRAT. They rammed ideas down peoples throat and did not give a hoot about the POPULAR ideas of the WHOLE country, now they are crying like the baby in your icon. Too bad.

23 posted on 06/09/2003 5:47:48 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; Bubba_Leroy; yall
From then until 2001, they had a Democratic president's veto threat to counter Republicans. For the next two years, they clung to a thread as a nearly evenly divided Senate provided Democrats some protection. That's over: Republicans rule.

Man, is this source part of the LAT/WP settlement ? If not, why the excerpt ??

More bump images HERE !

24 posted on 06/09/2003 6:35:55 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Bubba_Leroy; ATOMIC_PUNK; yall
"We might as well get in a bus and go to some motel like the Texas legislators," said Rep. Pete Stark, D-Fremont. "We literally have been locked out of the process."

‘Democrats uber alles’ = ‘Democrats over everything’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/924411/posts?page=17#17

25 posted on 06/09/2003 6:40:29 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
bump
26 posted on 06/09/2003 2:32:21 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: gcruse
Too many sno-cone Republicans.

Battle cry of the California State Republican Party.

27 posted on 06/09/2003 2:37:58 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"We might as well get in a bus and go to some motel like the Texas legislators," said Rep. Pete Stark, D-Fremont. "We literally have been locked out of the process."

I found the pefect bus for the job, too.


28 posted on 06/09/2003 2:39:10 PM PDT by kesg
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"We might as well get in a bus and go to some motel like the Texas legislators,"

May I suggest France?

29 posted on 06/09/2003 2:40:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 50sDad
R.I.P. Democrats.

You guys had a good run trying to destroy America with your rotten ideas.

Now it's time to throw the dirt over your rotting corpses.

Bub-bye!

30 posted on 06/09/2003 2:55:32 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: savedbygrace
The Texas Runaways

a.k.a. The Yellow Bellies of Texas!
31 posted on 06/09/2003 2:58:25 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Bubba_Leroy
They're not locked out, they're part of the process. The filibustering part.
32 posted on 06/09/2003 3:04:41 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
My bet is Fritz. Byrd has 3 and Laut has 5 more years. Any bets that Breaux or Bayh might want to be Governors? Can Daschele be bribed to take up a lucrative career like his Wife? Grahmn is looking like he want's to be a VP candidate and give up running in Fla. It loos like it might be a pretty good year.
33 posted on 06/09/2003 3:10:15 PM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: MeeknMing
Man, is this source part of the LAT/WP settlement ? If not, why the excerpt ??

No need to read the rest of the article. I accurately summarized it with this picture.


34 posted on 06/09/2003 3:38:14 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
hehe ! I read most of it, but had to go to the source.


Uh, haz anybahdy
seed hillary ??

35 posted on 06/09/2003 4:33:51 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
bump
36 posted on 06/09/2003 6:51:31 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: farmfriend
Great rant. But of course, in 50 years time, the pendulum will begin to swing the other way.

Well, if the Dems fall far enough, they could dissapear altogether before the GOP ossifys. Then the likely result would be a conservative split.

How would you like to see the two parties in the US be the Republicans and the Libertarians, or the neocons and paleocons?

37 posted on 06/09/2003 7:24:53 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"We might as well get in a bus and go to some motel like the Texas legislators," said Rep. Pete Stark, D-Fremont. "We literally have been locked out of the process."

Honorable Representative Stark, Please take the Highway to Hell. And take your commucrat voters with you.

Bon Voyage!

38 posted on 06/09/2003 7:36:00 PM PDT by LibKill (MOAB, the greatest advance in Foreign Relations since the cat-o'-nine-tails!)
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To: Richard Kimball
Great article, but we need to run the next election like we're twenty points behind.

You have that right. Overconfidence leads to defeat.

39 posted on 06/09/2003 7:37:20 PM PDT by LibKill (MOAB, the greatest advance in Foreign Relations since the cat-o'-nine-tails!)
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To: NovemberCharlie
How would you like to see the two parties in the US be the Republicans and the Libertarians, or the neocons and paleocons?

It's possible. I was talking more about ideology rather than parties as discussed in the book The Fourth Turning. Great read and the trend seems to be continuing.

40 posted on 06/10/2003 12:17:01 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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