Mindless, violent hip-hop culture isn't 'keepin' it real,' it's destroying our kids

St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 6/8/03 | Alvin Williams

[johnb838]

Every generation proclaims the death of music and the evils of the current crop of performers

There is a certain sort of sick "oneupmanship" that plays itself out in youth culture. Every cohort feels the pressure to outdo previous groups. I don't think you can explain this away with a simple "thus has it always been" dismissal.

[johnb838]

So you're saying they are basically Race Baiting Poverty Pimps like the Rev. Jacksnnnnn, Calypso Louie, and Altawana Sharpieton. I'd have to agree.

I like "Race Baiting Poverty Pimps" so much that I don't think I need the N word anymore. RBPPs for short.

[mhking]

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[PJ-Comix]

Children will eventually return to the values that they were raised on. Sure they will rebel for a while, but it all boils down to what the parent teach, or fail to teach their children.

True. Hip Hop is just part of a crazy phase that most youths go thru. I sure almost hope everything that I wrote down when I was a teenager has been destroyed. I was thinking today about some of the nutty thoughts YOURS TRULY had when a teenager.

[PJ-Comix]

I don't buy the whole "every generation says this" line when it comes to rap. Young blacks need a strong slap across the face--and soon.

Chill out. 99% of all that gangsta stuff is all an act. For a few years they dress and talk like gangstas and then it is all over. Every generation goes thru a nutty period.

[Future Snake Eater]

For a few years they dress and talk like gangstas and then it is all over.

Suuuure it is. Let's see, they probably really start getting into that mentality in middle school, it gets worse in high school, I see tons of it in college...when exactly do they snap out of it? I know it's all an act, but when they try to prove that they're "fer real," they're very unpredictable and damn dangerous.

I'll "chill out" when rap finally does.

[rdb3]

Young blacks need a strong slap across the face--and soon.

Well, here is a "young black." Do it.

[rdb3]

Mindless, violent hip-hop culture isn't 'keepin' it real,' it's destroying our kids

Let's peep the game from a different angle
Matt Dillon pulled his pistol every time him and someone tangled
So why you criticize me
For the sh-t that you see on your TV
That rates worse than PG?
Just bring your a-- to where they got me
So you can feel the hand of the dead body

--Brad Jordan a.k.a. Scarface
All I have in this world...
All I have in this world...
All I have
All I have
All I have in this world...

[mtg]

I can never understand enough of the words in rap songs to have any idea what they're saying. Which is fine by me, cause I can't stand rap anyway... makes my head hurt.

[F16Fighter]

"There is good and bad rap, hip hop or any other type of music for that matter."

"Rap" is music??

I guess a banquet of beans and franks, washed down with Schlitz will according to other music "connoisseurs," produce a work of symphonic proportions in no time.

[Sir Gawain]

Once we got to the early 90's, the urban thug mentality entered rap music. Gangsta rap, which glorified a criminal element under the faulty guise of "telling the true story of the streets" entered the urban culture, and spread like wildfire.

Ice-T actually started gangsta rap in 1985-86. NWA made it popular in '87 with Straight Outta Compton.

[Sir Gawain]

Matt Dillon pulled his pistol every time him and someone tangled

Scarface wasn't a sheriff.

[Hawkeye's Girl]

And heavy metal makes people suicidal. /sarcasm

Posers running around like idiots is a symptom of a larger problem, namely the intrusion of the government into their family structure. That ain't rap's fault.

[rdb3]

Scarface wasn't a sheriff.

Neither was Matt Dillon. It was make-believe.

[Sir Gawain]

Dillon pulled his weapon to enforce the law. The comparison doesn't hold up.

[Future Snake Eater]

Sorry, not my job to police you up.

[rhema]

Posers running around like idiots is a symptom of a larger problem, namely the intrusion of the government into their family structure. That ain't rap's fault.

Rap's a willing accomplice, though, and an especially pernicious, cold-blooded, and exploitative one. Government's intrusion is certainly a large part of the problem, notably liberals' attempts to expunge God from every corner of the public square. Statistical morality ain't much to ground a society on.

[rhema]

Let's peep the game from a different angle Matt Dillon pulled his pistol every time him and someone tangled So why you criticize me For the sh-t that you see on your TV That rates worse than PG? Just bring your a-- to where they got me So you can feel the hand of the dead body

Sic transit "poetry."