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Racism takes on a more-subtle form
The Miami Herald ^ | Tue, Jun. 10, 2003 | Robert Steinback

Posted on 06/10/2003 9:17:17 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: presidio9
If this country is so racist, how is it that a black man (Bill Clinton) was ever elected President?
41 posted on 06/10/2003 10:26:48 AM PDT by kevao
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To: presidio9
I met a black yesterday who is one of the more friendly and less profane blacks in my hood. We started talking and after claiming to be a Christian he then said that the bible was used to keep blacks as slaves. He said Christianity came from Europe and was used to make blacks afraid of God so they wouldn't resist being slaves. I was amazed to have met an actual Jessie Jackson voodoo bible "christian".
42 posted on 06/10/2003 10:37:20 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: mhking
EXACTLY. To think otherwise is just silly. How many rich mathematicians are out there?

What a dumbass.
43 posted on 06/10/2003 10:38:40 AM PDT by Gefreiter
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To: cherry; newgeezer
"urging ex-offenders to stay straight after completing their sentences"

I wish they could "complete their sentences" without saying MF all the time!

44 posted on 06/10/2003 10:39:06 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: biblewonk
Actually there is some truth to that statement. The Bible was used to justify slavery. Both to society in general, and to Christian slaves themselves.
45 posted on 06/10/2003 10:43:09 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Actually there is some truth to that statement. The Bible was used to justify slavery. Both to society in general, and to Christian slaves themselves.

I can believe that because the bible can be missused to justify just about anything. But Christianity is not about keeping blacks as slaves. Infact it says that all men are slaves either to sin or to God.

46 posted on 06/10/2003 10:45:24 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: biblewonk
I was talking more specifically about passages where Jesus tells slaves to respect their masters (sorry, don't know the verse offhand) which implied that Jesus condoned the practice, so who were slaves to disagree with Jesus?
47 posted on 06/10/2003 10:51:49 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
PLU-LEEZE, give us a break...

now, every little innocent and unintentional word or gesture is subtle racism ???????

So, we have to watch our every little word, joke, gesture ????

And to self-anaysize everything before we say or do
48 posted on 06/10/2003 10:58:11 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: presidio9
I was talking more specifically about passages where Jesus tells slaves to respect their masters (sorry, don't know the verse offhand) which implied that Jesus condoned the practice, so who were slaves to disagree with Jesus?

Yes it is sad to think of the Word of God being so abused as that but It sure happens. It is the same as the crusades and the witch trials.

49 posted on 06/10/2003 11:00:49 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: presidio9
The racial aspect of the Blair case, if there is one, is that the prospect of having a budding black star was so enticing that The Times bent too far to accommodate him.

Huh? Present any evidence of Blair's "budding stardom." He was reprimanded at every level, regularly criticized for lazy and sloppy work, failed to graduate from college, and even singled out by his immediate superiors and recommended for dismissal.

Is this one of those cases where the facts of the case can be altered as necessary to fit the point the author wants to make? That's Jayson Blair jounalism at its finest.

50 posted on 06/10/2003 11:31:59 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Tijeras_Slim
It must be sooo exhausting to go around everyday with that chip upon one's shoulder
51 posted on 06/10/2003 12:39:23 PM PDT by D1X1E
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To: mhking
yes, but in that sense, any white kid would jump on that money, too, and his parents would be fools to not tell him to do it and invest it!

Hey, I would do it for only ONE million, but, I cant jump...nor do I have rhythm...but I can type with one hand sometimes...:)
52 posted on 06/10/2003 2:33:30 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: biblewonk
in the south it was used to defend slavery, he is right.

The Bible NEVER says slaves are supposed to seek freedom, but to be good slaves. Look it up, BibleWonk :)
53 posted on 06/10/2003 2:38:38 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: presidio9
I just love the "If you disagree with me you're a racist" exhibit. How subtle.
54 posted on 06/10/2003 3:00:13 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: RAT Patrol
I prefer the buttsex crowd's "If you disagree with me you are homophobic/a "latent homosexual."
55 posted on 06/10/2003 3:10:25 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: RaceBannon
yes, but in that sense, any white kid would jump on that money, too

That's not the point - hell, for that money, I'd jump, too. But what it boils down to is that the NBA (and by extension, Nike) made the offer in the first place.

If this kid is the second coming of MJ (and from what I've seen, I refuse to believe it), then four years of college will make him that much better.

The fact that the League is so intent on watering down the quality of ball play in exchange for greater gate receipts will ultimately come back and bite them in the butt.

But there's a larger issue at play. When I talk to kids, all I hear is how they are going to be the next Kobe, or the next Michael, or the next Shaq. I never hear about the ones who will be the next Supreme Court Justice, or Legislator, or businessman, or even doctor or lawyer. All of those positions are more in reach (yes, if you include state Supreme Court and Legislative positions) than a position on an NBA team.

Notice the hypocrites in the NBA have finally done away with their "Stay In School" campaign. They finally realized how foolish they sounded.

Even if the League enacted an age floor of say 20, they would have a better situation on their hands. If a kid was THAT gung ho to play in the League, and didn't want to go to college, then he'd HAVE to go play minor league ball. The quality of ball-play in the NBA would certainly rise, and the constant BS about drafting kids out of high school would end pretty damn quick.

LeBron James just may make it to the next level and join the McGrady/Bryant elite. Then again, he may wash out and become yet another statistic.

56 posted on 06/10/2003 3:13:13 PM PDT by mhking
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To: presidio9
Exhibit 1 - NYTimes for years shoving affirmative-action and institutionalized racism down our throats

Exhibit 2 - NYTimes 150+ year reputation incinerated in a few short weeks

Exhibit 3 - NYTimes further compounding the damage, repeatedly, by means of utter cluelessness

Exhibit 4 - Me, laughing my right-wing ass off
57 posted on 06/10/2003 3:34:25 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Road Map = Road Kill)
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To: mhking
I dont follow basketball, so most of what you said went right over my head! :)

But I get the point.
58 posted on 06/10/2003 4:14:36 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: boris
As I frequently propose in the case of Affirmative Action (AA) we should make a list of supporters of AA. Then, when they need a skilled specialist (a brain surgeon, for instance) they should be compelled by law to select one who skated through brain-surgeon-school on an AA pass. Need a bridge built? Use an AA structural engineer.

Want a building designed? An AA architect.

If AA "graduates" are good enough for the rest of us, they surely should be good enough for the AA advocates...

Excellent idea! Let's take it to the next level though.

The next time a white/Asian person says they support affirmative action, tell them then that they should give up their job/spot in school/etc. to some minority, and they should take a crappier spot. After all, since they are the dominant race, they will be able to make up the difference anyway...

59 posted on 06/10/2003 5:11:13 PM PDT by BamaGirl
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To: BrooklynGOP
How ironic. Affirmative actions doesn't treat people on individual basis, either.

Laaaaydeees and gentlemen, we have a winner!

60 posted on 06/10/2003 5:16:28 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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