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The Boy Scout oath makes inclusion of homosexuals and atheists oxymoronic
Centre Daily Times Online ^ | Jun. 07, 2003 | Gary L. Morella

Posted on 06/10/2003 12:10:35 PM PDT by Polycarp

Posted on Sat, Jun. 07, 2003

The Boy Scout oath makes inclusion of homosexuals and atheists oxymoronic

By Gary Morella

Regarding the CDT article, "Link with Scouts draws fire" (May 14), how can a Boy Scout be inclined to homosexuality or be an atheist? A Scout takes an oath to be "morally straight" and to "do my duty to God," which makes the concept of homosexual or atheistic scouts oxymoronic.

To its credit, the concept of right and wrong still has a place in the Scouts. And nothing could be more wrong, in the view of the Scout oath, than allowing individuals who are publicly proud that they are homosexually inclined and consider sodomy a virtue, or who mock God by denying His existence, to be affiliated with the Scouts in any way. Such actions would be a bastardization of that oath.

Moreover, are we obliged to put our Scouts at risk because a radical minority, hell-bent on living self-destructive lifestyles, won't be satisfied until they are confirmed in their vice? Are we obliged to do so until their demand for acceptance of their behavior by all aspects of society, including the religious community, is met under force of law, so as to shut up or lock up the opposition that they are quick to demonize for lack of rational arguments to back up their claims?

If there is no connection between pedophilia and homosexuality, why are articles promoting the former showing up repeatedly in homosexual journals? Why is there a National Man/Boy Love Association whose homosexual connections are immediately obvious by their name and through their literature?

Those who are interested in legalizing sexual relations between adults and children want to change the parameters of the discussion from the absolutist moral position to the relative position that it can sometimes be beneficial. A controversial article in an American Psychological Association Bulletin, which promoted child sexual abuse under the euphemism intergenerational intimacy, an article that was subsequently refuted by the head of the APA after the pressure of near unanimous Congressional condemnation, furthered exactly this position.

The very real agenda of such advocates was shown on Fox's O'Reilly news show of August 1, 2001, when a representative from the Massachusetts gay and lesbian caucus argued that "don't ask, don't tell" also meant that the scouts can't talk about heterosexual relationships leading to marriage, and their leaders couldn't wear wedding rings, implying that somehow, such talk would offend the homosexual membership. In short, what he was advocating was that "don't ask, don't tell" not only apply to the unnatural acts of homosexuals that have been historically condemned by the vast majority of faith traditions, but also to natural marriage acts that aren't equally condemned. That fact offends homosexuals because "marriage" is not reserved for them; no matter that the concept of "homosexual marriage" is nonsensical since there is this slight problem with propagation of the species, given one of the primary definitions of marriage.

The Scout Handbook dealing with sexual responsibility (Chapter 14, pp. 376-378) would have to be rewritten. For example, what about the section where the Scouts are told that "sex should take place only between people who are married to each other," with abstinence until marriage being the priority concern in order to "give a child a close, loving family in which to grow"? The clear inference is that procreation is a function of "natural" monogamous marriage with a person of the opposite sex.

What about the section that deals with a Scout's responsibility to himself where he's told that "an understanding of 'wholesome' sexual behavior can bring lifelong happiness, with irresponsibility or ignorance causing a lifetime of regret?" What could be more irresponsible than the de facto promotion of homosexuality by such misguided policies as "don't ask, don't tell," given the evidence coming from many professional sources, including the Center for Disease Control that homosexual behavior is the most risky because of the unnatural acts involved? [See most recent HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report statistics for 2001.]

These are questions from responsible parents who recognize that the Boy Scouts put a premium on telling the truth. What we're witnessing is an attempt to subvert the very moral foundation of the Boy Scouts of America through homosexual agitprop.

Accordingly, how can parents, who out of course of fulfilling their responsibilities to their children by justly discriminating between right and wrong behavior, feel comfortable with a policy that would allow homosexuals into scouting.

Similarly, how can they feel comfortable with allowing admission into the Boy Scouts atheists, a group that runs counter to a primary tenet of the Scout oath? Oaths used to mean something before political correctness was allowed to run amok.

Gary L. Morella is a Lemont resident.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: atheists; boyscouts; bsa; catholiclist; cubscouts; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; queer; scouts
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1 posted on 06/10/2003 12:10:36 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; Aquinasfan; ...
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2 posted on 06/10/2003 12:10:54 PM PDT by Polycarp (Free Republic: Where Apatheism meets "Conservatism.")
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To: Polycarp
Do you think there's a market for my memoir, "I Was an Atheist Boy Scout"?
3 posted on 06/10/2003 12:13:01 PM PDT by Egregious Philbin
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To: Polycarp
On my honor, I will do my best

to do my duty

To God and my county

To help other people at all times

To keep myself physically strong, metally awake and morally straight

Morally straight excludes gays...

4 posted on 06/10/2003 12:15:02 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Private 1st Class - 101st Viking Kitty.....Valhalla.....All the Way!)
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To: Polycarp
BTTT!
5 posted on 06/10/2003 12:17:06 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Polycarp
or who mock God by denying His existence,

Clearly one cannot mock that which does not exist, therefore the atheist that denies the existence of "god" does so with the intention of making a truthful statement, and not with the hypocritical intention of mockery. The author seems confused about what words mean and how they should be applied. Possibly the intent is deliberate and the author is mocking those that dare disagree with him by refusing to partake of his mythology?

6 posted on 06/10/2003 12:25:28 PM PDT by Ten Megaton Solution
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To: Ten Megaton Solution
Thank you for filling the role of the stereotypical patronizing atheist. Your momma must be so proud.
7 posted on 06/10/2003 12:27:48 PM PDT by Polycarp (Free Republic: Where Apatheism meets "Conservatism.")
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To: Polycarp
"What we're witnessing is an attempt to subvert the very moral foundation of the Boy Scouts of America through homosexual agitprop."

This is the foundation of the homosexual agenda. Homosexuality is a perversion of something good. Homosexuality didn't work for the Greek Empire, and it won't work for our culture. Homosexuals want the heterosexual culture to not be the norm, to be an outcast culture. They want the return of the old Greek culture. It must not happen. We cannot allow homosexuals to have access to our children as a breeding ground for the implementation of their agenda.
8 posted on 06/10/2003 12:28:21 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Ten Megaton Solution
What evidence do you have that this is "mythology?"
9 posted on 06/10/2003 12:28:31 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Polycarp
Boy Scout SITREP
10 posted on 06/10/2003 12:28:51 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: LiteKeeper
Sadly the loyal athiest deosn't realize his beliefs are the actual mythology. In the end we shall see who's loyalty is rewarded.
12 posted on 06/10/2003 12:43:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Egregious Philbin
Egregious Philbin wrote:

Do you think there's a market for my memoir, "I Was an Atheist Boy Scout"?

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What about :" I Was A Gay Atheist Boy Scout"?

Tia

13 posted on 06/10/2003 1:30:40 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Have the words "and obey the Scout law" been removed from the oath?
14 posted on 06/10/2003 1:38:41 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: LiteKeeper
"mythology"? The Story of God is ultimately based on the presumption that Genesis is true. I won't bother with the litearlness of the Adam and Eve fable, but the fact of the matter is that the Big Flood never happened. Now, when a physically demonstrable prediction of a theory is proved false, no logical reason exists to presume that other claims contained in that theory, especially those not subject to validation, are true.

Therefore, since the Noah tale is a lie, there's no reason to accept virgin births, healing miracles, withered fig trees, water freesurface walking, or any other unverifiable claim in that book. One is expected to take these things on "faith", but that's absurd when the checkable items are demonstrated to be false.

Hence, the book is nothing more than mythology. A collection of tales with hypothectical and tenous factual basis intended to explain natural events, indoctrinate the young, and otherwise channel thought and behavior, without regards to the objective reality of the tale.

What did you think I meant by mythology?

15 posted on 06/10/2003 1:41:04 PM PDT by Ten Megaton Solution
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To: Zavien Doombringer
On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty To God and my county To help other people at all times To keep myself physically strong, metally awake and morally straight Morally straight excludes gays...

On my honour excludes Liberals.
16 posted on 06/10/2003 1:43:44 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: tiamat
What about :" I Was A Gay Atheist Boy Scout"?

I can only tell my story. Though I was mostly being a wise guy. Kids join the Boy Scouts because their friends do, not because it excludes atheists. "Agnostic" is actually the proper term, since atheism also requires faith in something unknowable, though I guess we'd be excluded too.
17 posted on 06/10/2003 1:52:43 PM PDT by Egregious Philbin
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To: Ten Megaton Solution
the fact of the matter is that the Big Flood never happened.

Show me the proof that this never happened.
18 posted on 06/10/2003 1:57:24 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger.)
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To: Egregious Philbin
Well, actually, I was just teasing, too.!

Besides, : " I Was A Gay Atheist Boy Scout" sounds more like a header on teh National Enquirer!

Or a movie.

Cheers!

Tia

19 posted on 06/10/2003 2:00:44 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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Bump & Ping
20 posted on 06/10/2003 2:03:48 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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