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The Boy Scout oath makes inclusion of homosexuals and atheists oxymoronic
Centre Daily Times Online ^ | Jun. 07, 2003 | Gary L. Morella

Posted on 06/10/2003 12:10:35 PM PDT by Polycarp

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To: GSWarrior
BUMP....for later comment!
41 posted on 06/11/2003 7:02:43 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: Ten Megaton Solution
Clearly one cannot mock that which does not exist . . .

Clearly one can mock that which exists that one does not believe exists.

One of the greatest unbelievers of them all, Bertrand Russell, admitted that rigorous logic would not permit him to deny God's existence as a proveable fact. Agnosticism was as far as careful thought would permit him to go.

At any rate, the Boy Scouts is founded on an implicit belief in God. To contend one should be allowed to participate while expressly rejecting the existence of God is PC illogic taken to extremes.

42 posted on 06/11/2003 7:12:45 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
Clearly one cannot mock that which does not exist . . . Clearly one can mock that which exists that one does not believe exists.

No. One can only mock those that believe. It is still not possible to mock that which is not. Mockery requires the appreciation of the target.

43 posted on 06/11/2003 9:40:28 AM PDT by Ten Megaton Solution
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To: johnb838
Sorry. I'm not going to dig into geologic history and "prove" the Imaginary Flood never happened. The facts are that at no time in the earth's history, and especially at no time in the history of mankind, was this planet ever 100% inundated with water. If you're so ignorant of geology that you don't realize the truth of this statement, it's beyond my ability to "prove" it to you.

How about you providing compelling physical evidence that the earth was completely flooded, 100%, past the top of Everest, all at the same time? Oh, you can't. I'm sorry, but we all know there's not one single continuous alluvial layer blanketing the entire planet. Well, all of us but you.

Also, in addition to being ignorant of the history of the ground under your feet, you're ignorant of the rules of logic, since everyone also knows that one cannot "prove" a negative. When some posits that something did not occur, the proper refutation is to provide evidence to the contrary. After all, you said the Imaginary Flood happened. Where's your proof? A magic book? Don't make us laugh.

44 posted on 06/11/2003 9:51:31 AM PDT by Ten Megaton Solution
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To: Kevin Curry
One of the greatest unbelievers of them all, Bertrand Russell, admitted that rigorous logic would not permit him to deny God's existence as a proveable fact.

No. That's why one puts it forward as a disprovable theory. A theory has not yet been shown to be false. All that is needed to refute this simple statement:

There is no God

is to drag a God out from under whatever rock She might be hiding under and prove It exists. Bertrand Russell was merely stating the obvious, that you cannot prove a negative.

As for the rest, I never once said that atheists should be permitted to join the Boy Scouts. Last time I checked, the BSA was a private organization, with the freedom to set it's own rules of membership as it pleased. Atheists shouldn't whine about not being able to go camping or whatever since they're not willing to lie to join up. If the atheists have the equal freedom to create their own equivalent Boy Scouts Without God if they want, no one is stopping them.

I agree fully with those that support the Boy Scouts exclusionary stance. It's no one's business but theirs.

45 posted on 06/11/2003 9:59:31 AM PDT by Ten Megaton Solution
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To: ArGee
Actually, there is a lot of evidence that the Big Flood did, indeed happen. Additionally, I have been told that there are many flood stories, not just the one in Genesis.

No. There is plenty of evidence of floods throughout history. There is no evidence of a global deluge. And of course there are many stories of mythological floods. Moses allegedly wrote the Pentateuch, but however was responsible simply lifted the Mesopotamian tale of Gilgamesh and altered it to suit his purposes. As serious a case of copyright infringement and plagiarism as any in history.

46 posted on 06/11/2003 10:02:33 AM PDT by Ten Megaton Solution
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BSA Ping
47 posted on 06/12/2003 10:10:15 AM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/notify?detach=1)
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