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Hate Speech
The Valley Advocate ^
| june 5, 2003
| Alan Bisbort
Posted on 06/11/2003 2:08:37 PM PDT by ummark
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To: LiteKeeper
"SPOTREP "
OK i see this all over the place but have yet to figure out what it means. Someone enlighten me pleeease :)
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posted on
06/11/2003 7:47:27 PM PDT
by
honeygrl
(sigh... i want hubby back home now. business trips suck.)
To: b-cubed; mhking
He always writes great letters.
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posted on
06/11/2003 7:48:45 PM PDT
by
honeygrl
(sigh... i want hubby back home now. business trips suck.)
To: Fraulein
Oh, the irony! I was being ever so thoughtful. 'cuz see if you wish there never had been slavery, then you're wishing that America would be all white, or nearly so. See? It's a paradox. See?
Anyway, thanks for the tip, or the ping, or whatever.
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posted on
06/11/2003 8:06:45 PM PDT
by
dr_lew
To: mhking
I wonder what they'd say if they figured out that the body on a rope quip came from a black man? ;)They'd just brush you off as someone like Clarence Thomas or Condi Rice and think that's an insult. :o)
To: honeygrl
I am a retired Army officer (artillery, MI, and chaplain). I have the privilege of teaching several classes in Colorado Springs to high school, college, and adults on comparative worldviews (biblical vs secular), as well as an inductive study of Genesis 1-11. As I read the various threads, some impress me as good for illustrating different worldviews. So, using some Army terminology, I mark "incidents" as "SPOTREPS" (spot report) and "descriptions of the current world scene" as "SITREPs" (situation reports). When I get home, I download these SPOTREPs and SITREPs to a database for future use.
Does that help?
To: LiteKeeper
Definitely helps! I see those posts a lot so my curiosity was getting out of control.
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posted on
06/11/2003 9:53:13 PM PDT
by
honeygrl
(sigh... i want hubby back home now. business trips suck.)
To: ummark
And, her nonsense -- she regularly "channels" Ronald Reagan in her columns All good speechwriters do, silly man. How else does one write good speeches in someone elses words?
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posted on
06/12/2003 8:16:25 AM PDT
by
lepton
To: mvpel; mhking
Hell, what would it look like, a body swinging from a rope! Just damn!
I've been asked (via Project 21) to provide some commentary to Senator Bill Frist regarding the measure. It's been spearheaded by former Washington Redskin (and fellow black conservative) Darrell Green.
Gee, while I like the letter, I don't think mhkings letter will point it out any better than the original quote.
68
posted on
06/12/2003 8:27:24 AM PDT
by
lepton
To: ummark
This guy compares Michael Savage to Peggy Noonan. I know Michael can get a bit carried away at times, but Noonan? He could have done better than that. He passed over Larry Elder, Roger Hedgecock, Hugh Hewitt and lots of others on talk radio to come up with a highly refined woman and well respected former presidential speech writer. Only one word for this guy - a-hole.
69
posted on
06/12/2003 3:07:37 PM PDT
by
CdMGuy
To: ummark
I don't know the answer to your query, but even if it was posted here this is a quasi-public forum. In how many other forums and chat sites will people express some crazy things and rants? Anyone could cull through the DU site and extract specious ammunition like that.
The author says that no one talks rationally about issues anymore, especially the hate-filled partisans over there, and her argument appears to be "Yes, THEY are the real haters".
I do think she's partly right, that the civility of discussion is on the decline. But with taxes above 50% and a clear view of who the enemy is and a long history of making very little progress with these apologists of the State, and with all the great houses properly aligned, civility may require more patience and passivity than is the spirit of our times.
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posted on
06/12/2003 3:27:23 PM PDT
by
kcar
(T)
To: ummark
Where is this "Happy Valley?"
To: vikingcelt
The Happy Valley is the Connecticut River Valley north of Hadley and south of Deerfield, in Massachusetts. It is the home to several colleges,among them Amherst, Smith, Mt. Holyoke, Hampshire(Ken Burns), and my alma mater, the University of Massachusetts, where the former state senate president and brother of the serial killing rapist pedophile gangster Whitey Bulger, FBI Ten Most Wanted #2, currently sits as chief. Need I say more...
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posted on
06/12/2003 4:38:15 PM PDT
by
ummark
To: ummark
73
posted on
06/12/2003 4:55:04 PM PDT
by
Sister_T
To: mvpel
I'm disappointed that I wasn't selected for publication! I started off the thread by saying Thomas Sowell was the greatest living American thinker. Maybe the author doesn't know who Thomas Sowell is, and so doesn't realize what a hate-filled statement that was?
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posted on
06/12/2003 6:55:27 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(God bless President Bush and President Reagan.)
To: RAT Patrol
I am not sure I understand the other quote or the statement of the person he was responding to. Well, it's not really worth dwelling on, but since I made the news and everything, what the heck.
I was responding to chachacha's remark that "Things like this prove that slavery was wrong for more reasons than one would expect. The fact that they are still here is one of them." - meaning slavery was wrong because it brought all those black people here. Rather mean-spirited, I thought, so I was responding in a "now, now" kind of way, and affirming the value of diversity by saying that was what made slavery RIGHT.
I then expanded in airy fashion on the immutability of past events. They are a "condition of our existence" - if we accept our existence as it is, and deem it good, we have to accept the events of the past as they happened. Note how this happens with wars. Think of Civil War reenactments. This is a recreational activity, and a positive thing. The Civil War is History, and History is a positive thing, no matter how horrible the Civil War was in actuality.
The whole idea is clear as mud ( I did call it paradoxical and weird ), but this was the nature of my musing. To have my very liberal-minded remark snatched up as an example of nastiness is certainly ironic, but it is not new to me by any means.
I would just further add, that my quote was actually edited. The short sentence "It WAS." expressing the immutability of the past, was deleted. It's hard to be charitable about the motive for doing so, short as it was ( ha ha ). I think it got in the way of his presumption that I was crudely expressing a belief that slavery should be reinstituted, and so - out with it.
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posted on
06/12/2003 10:51:01 PM PDT
by
dr_lew
To: dr_lew
Thanks for explaining it. I confess I didn't understand it, but it seems to me that, being unclear, anyone honest who wanted to use it in a newspaper would first get an explanation from its author. The guy clearly wasn't looking for the truth.
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posted on
06/13/2003 8:26:52 AM PDT
by
RAT Patrol
(Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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