Posted on 06/12/2003 6:36:52 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
Brian Rohrbough is the father of one of the victims at Columbine. In an interview I conducted with him for my talk show Live Fire, my listeners were informed of the continuing lawsuits pursued by Rohrbough to pry the information from the authorities who have engaged in a massive cover-up.
The killers were well-known to the school and the police as very dangerous characters. After stealing equipment from a van, they were reported to have made death threats against a student. The Sheriff denied that any such report had been made, but unhappily for the Sheriff, the father had kept a copy of the report on the official form used for that purpose.
Rohrbough said that other death threats had been made, as well. The police had recovered from the killers pipe bombs which had been reported to them.
A year before Columbine, a search warrant was drawn up to search the house of the killers but was never executed. For two years the Sheriff's department denied that there had been a warrant. It has now been revealed in court that the cops were lying. Rohrbough suspects that one of the killers' parents was close to someone in the Sheriff's department.
One of the killers was being medicated on a psychotropic drug. There is a line at many of the county schools in the cafeteria where the drugs are handed out. The schools get $1000 per year from the federal government for handing out the drugs that the parents pay for.
The Sheriff's department covered up the records of the juvenile diversion program that the killers had attended. The parents had described in documents for the program that the kids were angry. One of the killers answered questions on a form saying that he wanted to kill someone, wanted to kill himself and hurt as many people as possible. They wrote essays in a creative writing class where they described the joys of murdering innocent people. The only negative comment by the teacher who graded the paper was that you should not swear at people before murdering them.
In a class they produced a video depicting the blowing up of the school. The killers had been on the internet bragging about the bombs they built. They even put their names on the bombs.
Other video tapes were made by the killers bragging that they wanted to kill as many people as possible. They had a hit list, but that has not been released yet -- although Rohrbough is trying to get it in produced in court.
The school authorities reported concerns about the killers to the Sheriff department's school resource officer. The officer denied that he was ever told that information. This is one of the many lies that Rohrbough has uncovered in the over 30,000 pages of documents he has gotten out of the clutches of the authorities.
Rohrbough accuses the police of having been cowards. Most of the officers he hastens to add wanted to go in, but the first officers on the scene became cowards. They had a gun fight with the killers and ran to hide behind their cars instead of running into the school. Their cowardice soon became the orders from above, ultimately from the Sheriff himself.
There was about seven minutes before the killers killed anyone inside the school (two had been killed outside, including Rohrbough's son). Obviously, if the officers had gone into the building immediately, there is a great likelihood that many lives could have been saved.
It is now known that the police waited for three hours after they knew the killers were dead before they finally entered the building. This was the time during which a teacher bled to death in plain sight of the world.
Rohrbough has alleged that the county lied about 28 material facts. When he presented this in a case against the county, the judge said that the government is immune from criminal penalties when it lies. The county's defense, when they were caught lying, was to hide behind the doctrine of sovereign immunity which protects bureaucrats from liability for their misdeeds. As a result, they actually argued in court that they were not responsible for protecting the victims or the dying teacher.
As a result, Rohrbough's litigation has focused on freedom of information suits to obtain the documents which have exposed the government's lies.
The Governor's commission to investigate Columbine was on the verge of issuing a report saying that everyone in authority had done all they could when Rohrbough dug up the non-executed search warrant. The commission never did hammer the police for allowing two killers to roam the halls while the cops cowered outside.
The commission recommended two improvements. One was to improve communication technology between police departments and the Sheriff's office in the county. But Rohrbough has learned that the difficulty was solved almost instantly. The other recommendation was that troubled students not go to their diversion programs in the same car. That was all the commission could come up with!
Rohrbough lamented that there were no teachers or other adults with a concealed firearm in the school. He pointed to the case of Israel where teachers have been encouraged to arm themselves. Certainly, if the police are going to insist that they have no responsibility to protect victims from criminals, then it is unconscionable for the police and politicians to oppose people protecting themselves, including legalizing firearms for self defense in schools.
Rohrbough is of the opinion that the killers' accomplice who legally bought the guns for the killers had advance knowledge of the crime. According to her, she told the killers when she gave them the guns, "You're not going to do anything stupid, are you?" She was not prosecuted for transferring firearms to persons ineligible to own them. Rohrbough suspects that she was not prosecuted because she played the politically correct game of testifying that if there had been a gun show background check she never would have bought the guns.
One good thing that has resulted from the revelations of official misconduct was the defeat of the Sheriff in the next election.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Larry Pratt has been Executive Director of Gun Owners of America for 27 years. GOA is a national membership organization of 300,000 Americans dedicated to promoting their second amendment freedom to keep and bear arms.
The GOA web site is: http://gunowners.org. Pratt's weekly talk show Live Fire is archived there at: http://gunowners.org/radio.htm E-Mail: ldpratt@gunowners.org
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The SWAT team and other police officers need to get their orders from the TOP brass, do they not?
I don't see how anyone can condone blatant cowardice as was exhibited on the scene, but then, hanging out here as long as I have, I get to be constantly amazed at the lengths some people will go to justify any action by police. I'm suprised Dane hasn't shown up on this thread yet. (perhaps he has, and I haven't noticed)
...James Davis, a nationally recognized criminologist who has trained over 200 tactical teams over the last 15 years:"Those first officers were under fire as soon as they got out of their vehicles. They knew from the outset that these kids were packing heavy arms." The gunmen had assault rifles, semi-automatics, and scores of bombs and explosives. They were barricaded under a position of cover with potentially 2,000 victims and hostages - a nightmare scenario for any SWAT team. Within seconds the officers had a gunbattle on their hands. "By anyone's estimation, it was a God-awful circumstance," Davis continued. "There was live fire, perhaps a couple of thousand victims and no reliable information about what was actually happening or where inside the building."
Adding to the confusion, information was flowing out of the building via hundreds of calls from cell phones, school phones and even e-mail. But the information was confusing and contradictory and served to only add to the chaos. Several people were insisting there were six shooters while others reported that the gunmen had changed clothes to blend in with the other students. Shortly after Jefferson County SWAT Commander Lt. Terry Manwaring arrived on the scene, he knew instantly that the traditional tactics of time, talk and tear-gas had to give way to a hurry-up offense. Law enforcement officers had a situation on their hands that no agency has ever faced - bombs exploding and heavily armed gunmen shooting their way through a school crowded with 2,000 terrified students and teachers. "It was way beyond the worse case scenario that tactical officers train for," said Larry Glick, who heads up the National Tactical Officers Association. "What happened in Littleton was unthinkable from a training perspective." American Police Beat
The worst condemnations of the cowardly actions of the Colorado cops and federal Swatzies who later *cleared by fire* rooms in the school in which live survivors remained has come from other cops, in particular a cousin of mine on the SWAT [they call theirs SRT]team in another Colorado county.
-archy-/-
A voice of reason.
Furthermore, the shooting lasted 20-25 minutes tops. By the time the cops could even grasp the reality of what was happening, Eric and Dylan had shot themselves.
SWAT teams simply were not trained for the type of situation that happened on 04/20/99.
FWIW, A very close family member of mine survived the library that day.
Direct fire from a 155 self-propelled artillery piece works MUCH better. This has been known and demonstrated as fact since George Patton's Third Army toured Europe in 1944 and '45, though the entry and clearance of towns was specifically avoided unless absolutely necessary. But in some instances, as when the Moselle River was crossed and Metz, the first city in Germany to be taken, was cleared and occupied by the 5th Infantry Division after 10 days of particularly *intense* fighting, SP arty was a most useful tool.
Don't tell the Swatzies, though- they'll want one for when they go rounding up overdue books from the public library.
Please tell us, what would have been your modus operandi for the Columbine situation?
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