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Congress-woman blames Mexicans for migratory flow to U.S.
quepasa.com ^ | June 13, 2003 | Julia Astrid Enriquez

Posted on 06/12/2003 8:41:18 PM PDT by One_American

Julia Astrid Enriquez

Phoenix, Arizona, U.S., June 12, 2003 (quepasa.com) - Mexican Congresswoman and president of the 57th Human Rights Commission of the State of Sonora, Eugenia Villaseñor, blamed Mexicans for the current migratory flow since, as she told Quepasa.com in an exclusive interview, migrants feel drawn towards a mirage: "they think that in the United States the easy life, in which they own everything they wish awaits for them, knowing in advance that they will have to deal with discrimination."

She said migrants should stay in Mexico and gather all the money they pay polleros (around 5 to 6 thousand dollars) in groups of 10 or 15 people to create a good business and make a living.

Sonora, a northern Mexican state sharing a 606-km-borderline with Arizona, is a very deserted zone and the door for hundreds of undocumented migrants to the United States since this is an area hard to patrol by the American authorities.

From 1997 to date, 1,986 undocumented Mexicans have lost their lives in their attempt to get to the United States and fulfill their American dream.

Nonetheless, this Congresswoman considers his proposal un appropriate since "Mexicans lack the culture of nationalism, hard work, and real love for their country to face all together the economic crisis without emigrating into the United States to try to find nonexistent utopias.

One good choice to prevent such migratory flow, she said she had proposed the Congress' Human Rights Commission, garbage collection as a good job alternative. "A simple job that can be done by poor people. They could get together and clean the streets or abandoned lots" at a good price.

The 57th Congress Legislature, which has a three-year period, will end its term in no more than two months; however, Congresswoman Villaseñor admitted that during this period, the point of migrants' human rights has not been discussed at all, neither has a bill or law been proposed on this regard.

Nevertheless, she told Quepasa.com that for the rest of the legislature's term, she would be in charge of sending recommendations for migrants to receive "a decent treat", as well as arranging pacts with the United States to organize legal jobs on the fields.

Regarding the accusations against her party, since it was the ruling party in Mexico for decades when people started to migrate towards the U.S., she said it was the businessmen?s fault because they did not have a futuristic vision and sent all their capitals to the U.S. "It is not only one party's fault", she emphasized.

Finally, she recommended Mexico's economy be reorganized so young are not forced to emigrate to other countries seeking "unreachable dreams" and also said the migration phenomenon "is everybody's fault, Mexicans' faults, drawn by such mirage. They think they will have everything, and it's not true (...) let's believe in ourselves and not suffer discrimination in other countries." QUEPASA.COM

Translated by Oscar Montes.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: borders; illegalimmigration; immigration
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To: Rabid Republican
They are harder workers than anyone else I know. I found the article to be very offensive - on many levels. And very simplistic ... and stupid.

Do you live and work in Mexico? She may see things in that culture you've never seen. We see that same thing here, many more Mexicans are living on welfare in the housing projects than are out working hard on the farms here. Just because some are hard workers doesn't mean 100% are ---and take a very close look at Mexico --- hard work didn't get it that way. Hard work didn't make them the number one drug dealing country in the world either ---corruption did that.

The elites of Mexico don't tend to get their good jobs through any kind of hard work --they use their "connections", the poor sometimes work hard ---but they work hard and not smart. Look at Mexican farms ---everything is still done by hand -- a large farm might have one tractor and the field hands are doing everything manually ---very inefficient.

41 posted on 06/13/2003 6:42:46 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: One_American
She's got the right idea, but she's drowned out by official voices in the Government, Media and Academia who are promoting colonization of Texas and the Southwest through illegal immigration.
42 posted on 06/13/2003 6:44:31 PM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: FITZ
Those weapons are essentially owned by the ruling class as drug lords don't belong to the peasant class and get protection from the only other armed Mexicans, the Federales. There are millions of peasants in Mexico, far outweighing any class divisions that have ever existed in this country. Freed blacks in the south immediately following the Civil War had more political, economic and social clout than these people do.
43 posted on 06/13/2003 6:48:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...and so was PT Barnum.)
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To: DumpsterDiver
ping for later reading
44 posted on 06/13/2003 7:08:16 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: TigersEye
They could get guns in the US easily enough --- they passively leave their homeland but they don't get an attitude of fighting for it, liberating it. I think some may in the near future --if the borders are ever closed. Plus I think there are at least some Mexicans who don't want to give up their own lands to become some meek gardeners for Americans.
45 posted on 06/13/2003 7:14:32 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
--if the borders are ever closed.

You are right, there. For our part we need to close the border, end welfare, citizenship by birth and let the Mexican government firmly know that their stuff stinks and we support a change however it has to occur. The U.S. isn't moving on any of that right now so our stuff doesn't smell too good either.

We aren't helping Mexico or Mexicans by taking excess baggage off of their hands. The ones that really want, actually need, change can't afford a gun unless they come here and work. If they can work here in peace and prosperity why go back and die fighting in an uphill battle? If we close the borders they can't come here for money or guns. Catch 22 any way you look at it.

46 posted on 06/13/2003 7:33:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...and so was PT Barnum.)
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To: TigersEye
I think Bush could help by telling Fox firmly that it's time for some real reforms. For one Fox could start by doing something about the fast escalating violent crime in cities like Juarez. Threatening to shut down the border is a great way to get the Mexican leaders moving --- the campesinos did just that this winter and they got concessions on NAFTA.
47 posted on 06/13/2003 7:49:54 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Agreed. Sure wish he would.
48 posted on 06/13/2003 7:53:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...and so was PT Barnum.)
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To: FITZ
I live in Southern California and our agriculture, construction and restaurant business runs on these people's backs. I'm fairly attuned to the illegal population - for a variety of reasons. These people are not the ones on welfare. Many have fake social security cards and pay taxes, workmen's comp, social security - all of which they never see again. I'm not sure where you live, but I bet the vast majority of people on welfare are indeed U.S. citizens.

As far as working the farm by hand, these people are dirt poor and can't afford equipment. They also can't afford to send their kids to school (it's not free like it is here) and so the cycle of poverty continues.


49 posted on 06/13/2003 8:47:47 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: Pelham
Aren't they all working for you?

No. Unlike Tancredo I can hook up my stereo without hiring ILLEGALS.

50 posted on 06/13/2003 8:52:58 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Rabid Republican
There is a fuzzy line between many illegals and legals. Here there are some illegals working hard doing farm work but many of the ones collecting welfare came on a shopping or visitor visa, stayed to have an anchor baby ---which is legal and entitles them to welfare. Also many come over through family sponsorship and never have to work ---yes they're legal and get their welfare.

From what I've heard California has a budget deficit problem ---so your illegals aren't carrying the state all that well. Social Security is in trouble ---the felony criminals stealing and presenting false documentation aren't saving the system after all.

California had illegals 10 years ago ---it keeps adding hundreds of thousands of illegals every year ---but farmland isn't increasing so it's obvious they aren't all doing farm work ---same here ---we would have enough farm jobs for a fairly set number of illegals ---but the number coming in is increasing at a very high rate ---just like our welfare rolls are.

Anyone that promotes the Mexicanization of the US should instead just move to Mexico where the culture is already established. They have very cheap labor over there --so if cheap labor was the factor they should be doing better than us. They have democracy, the people choose their leaders ---they vote in Mexico just like they vote in California ---so you see Marxists replacing someone like Bob Dornan.

51 posted on 06/14/2003 5:38:46 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Rabid Republican
Do you believe Mexico should ever be changed or fixed? And if the people only run from their homeland because it's so easy to come to the US, what will ever motivate change? The Mexican Congresswoman is right ---she's taking an honest look at what that culture is about and why conditions are so drastically different south of the border from north of the border. They can change but many don't wish to change.
52 posted on 06/14/2003 5:41:17 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
>> It looks like she's in the PRI party. Well at least many of those 70 years they ruled, Mexico wasn't in such a mess as it is now <<

Mexican politics have to be pretty f----- up when Eugenia Villaseñor's common sence rhetoric makes her a member of Mexico's "liberal" party but Vicente Fox's screwy socialist plans place him in chage of their "conservative" party. Looks like James Carville was backing the WRONG guy, as Vicente the Clintonite is definitely HIS kind of "leader"

I agree with your assessement, PAN has actually proven to be WORSE than PRI, or at least Vicente Fox is. Fox has betrayed Bush, and Bush should respond by working towards a defeat of Vicente's "center-right" (not!) coalition in November. There is nothing remotely "conservative" about the current leadership and the scumbag deserves defeat for his "leadership".

53 posted on 06/14/2003 3:21:25 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: BlackElk
>> PRI was a communist party that martyred priests like Miguel Pro, S. J., banned the saying of Mass, tried to blow up the Basilica at Guadalupe, invited Trotsky to Mexico and then invited the soviets to come <<

As opposed to the current "devoutly Catholic" President who embraces ex-communicated commies like Castro, spits on the church's marriage laws by getting hitched to some bimbo when his first marriage is still legal, REFUSES to EVER speak out against abortion (he'll constantly whine about evil convicted killers getting fried, though!), violates church customs when meeting the Pope, and salutes the seperation of church and state laws.

It sort of reminds me how Kennedy was the "first" Catholic President of the U.S., although the non-Catholic Reagan did FAR MORE for Catholics than the Catholic-In-Name-Only JFK did. Guess which one established dipolmatic relations with the Vatican? I doubt John "I attend protestant services and don't observe Lent" Kennedy could even NAME who the Pope was at the time.

Mexico's strict anti-abortion policy was passed under the PRI, incentially, which Vicente has done nothing to enforce and in fact is sympathic to pro-abortion nations and a liberalization of abortion laws. The "liberal" PRI also said they would allow a referendum vote so the people could decide if they wanted the death penalty (80% of Mexicans did), but the "conservative" President of Mexico is NOT ONLY horrified about the idea of any dangerous killer getting executed, but he doesn't even support life in prison for them! Thus, the PRI supports the bibical position on these issues and the old rules established at the Council of Trent, whereas Vicente's views mirror those of Andrew Greeley, Father Pfifler, and other liberal "catholics" who care more about dangerous serial killers than unborn children.

Interesting enough, the PRI is also taking heat now for conducting a "dirty war" against LEFT-WING activists are trying to "purge" them from the country when they were in charge. (http://www.imagenlatinoamericana.com/latinoamerica/latinoamerica_en.asp?articleId=270) Hmmm... one wonders why the "communist" PRI would want to eliminate far-leftist Mexicans who you claim would want to support their policies.

Obvious, Vicente "Jim Jeffords" Fox has managed to govern to the LEFT of many "liberals" in Mexico, just like the George Ryan wing of the Republican party has managed here. The PRI never tried to be fire-breathing leftists, since third parties like the PNR were sucking liberal votes away from them. Vicente, on the other hand, has certainly been unabashedly socialist during his reign.

The best thing that could happen to Mexico now would be a "purge" of Vicente's snake oil salesmen and a humliating defeat for his party. If the PAN party is Mexico's version of "consevative", I'd hate to see their idea of a liberal.

54 posted on 06/14/2003 3:45:06 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: PRND21
But you're always pro-illegal.
55 posted on 06/14/2003 10:58:34 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Pelham
Never. Link it.
56 posted on 06/15/2003 9:38:28 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Pelham
Your pants are on fire again.
57 posted on 06/17/2003 9:45:23 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Pelham
Pssst. Hey liar. You're a coward.
58 posted on 06/20/2003 10:09:52 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Pssst. Hey liar. You're a coward

Stickshift, you're posting while looking in the mirror again. But I do take your assessments of lies seriously, as I find you're quite expert on the issue.

59 posted on 06/20/2003 11:47:20 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: PRND21
She could hook him up with more illegal cheap labor for his home stereo, eh?

Oh come on! Are you dragging that old story up again? It's been hashed, re-hashed, and re-hashed once again, both in the media and here on Free Republic. Tancredo hired a contractor to do work in his home, and the contractor, unbeknownst to Tancredo, hired some workers who may or may not have been illegal aliens to help do the work in Tancredo's house. At the time that the work on Tancredo's house was being done, Tancredo was out of town. But I guess you just couldn't resist taking a cheap shot at Tancredo, eh?

60 posted on 06/21/2003 12:19:49 AM PDT by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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