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To: FITZ
I live in Southern California and our agriculture, construction and restaurant business runs on these people's backs. I'm fairly attuned to the illegal population - for a variety of reasons. These people are not the ones on welfare. Many have fake social security cards and pay taxes, workmen's comp, social security - all of which they never see again. I'm not sure where you live, but I bet the vast majority of people on welfare are indeed U.S. citizens.

As far as working the farm by hand, these people are dirt poor and can't afford equipment. They also can't afford to send their kids to school (it's not free like it is here) and so the cycle of poverty continues.


49 posted on 06/13/2003 8:47:47 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: Rabid Republican
There is a fuzzy line between many illegals and legals. Here there are some illegals working hard doing farm work but many of the ones collecting welfare came on a shopping or visitor visa, stayed to have an anchor baby ---which is legal and entitles them to welfare. Also many come over through family sponsorship and never have to work ---yes they're legal and get their welfare.

From what I've heard California has a budget deficit problem ---so your illegals aren't carrying the state all that well. Social Security is in trouble ---the felony criminals stealing and presenting false documentation aren't saving the system after all.

California had illegals 10 years ago ---it keeps adding hundreds of thousands of illegals every year ---but farmland isn't increasing so it's obvious they aren't all doing farm work ---same here ---we would have enough farm jobs for a fairly set number of illegals ---but the number coming in is increasing at a very high rate ---just like our welfare rolls are.

Anyone that promotes the Mexicanization of the US should instead just move to Mexico where the culture is already established. They have very cheap labor over there --so if cheap labor was the factor they should be doing better than us. They have democracy, the people choose their leaders ---they vote in Mexico just like they vote in California ---so you see Marxists replacing someone like Bob Dornan.

51 posted on 06/14/2003 5:38:46 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Rabid Republican
Do you believe Mexico should ever be changed or fixed? And if the people only run from their homeland because it's so easy to come to the US, what will ever motivate change? The Mexican Congresswoman is right ---she's taking an honest look at what that culture is about and why conditions are so drastically different south of the border from north of the border. They can change but many don't wish to change.
52 posted on 06/14/2003 5:41:17 AM PDT by FITZ
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