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Judge muzzles both sides in Peterson case
The Modesto Bee ^ | Published: June 13, 2003, 07:26:03 AM PDT | John Cote' and Garth Stapely

Posted on 06/13/2003 8:51:47 AM PDT by runningbear

Judge muzzles both sides in Peterson case


Judge Al Girolami's gag order came just hours after another superior court judge, Roger Beauchesne, ruled that eight search warrants in the case should be unsealed.

Judge muzzles both sides in Peterson case

By JOHN COTÉ and GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITERS

Published: June 13, 2003, 07:26:03 AM PDT

Two local judges in the Peterson double-murder case came down Thursday on opposite sides of questions on court-imposed secrecy, one issuing a gag order and the other deciding to unseal search warrants.

Also Thursday, an appellate court in Fresno rejected media requests to prevent prosecutors from listening to wiretap recordings of telephone calls between accused killer Scott Peterson and newspaper and television reporters.

In the local rulings, judges revealed that:

Peterson's lawyers presented no evidence of "other suspects" in a June 6 closed hearing.

Much information from wiretaps on Peterson's phones and unidentified sealed documents is likely to be "irrelevant and/or inadmissible."

Citing "massive" media attention, Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami ordered attorneys and investigators on both sides not to talk publicly about most elements of the high-profile case.

The order extends to potential witnesses, law enforcement personnel, legal staff and court employees.

A few hours earlier, Judge Roger M. Beauchesne agreed with Bee lawyers that search warrants served on Scott Peterson before his April 18 arrest should be made public. But he said they will stay under wraps until July 8, the day after a court of appeal ruling on the issue is final and Beauchesne regains jurisdiction.

Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty against Peterson, 30, accused of the murders of his wife, Laci, and their unborn son, Conner. She was eight months pregnant when family members reported her missing on Christmas Eve. Both bodies washed ashore in mid-April along San Francisco Bay.

Both judges had sealed a range of court documents normally open to public review. Autopsy reports and wiretap documents, for example, remain closed despite media-led protests.

Fair trial vs. public disclosure

At odds are Peterson's right to a fair trial and press and public rights to information. Both rights are protected by amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

"It's a balancing test when you have two very fundamental constitutional rights in conflict," said Stanford law professor Miguel Mendez, who practiced law in Modesto three decades ago with California Rural Legal Assistance.

Prosecutors had favored a "limited" gag order muzzling attorneys, investigators and others close to the case, citing leaks they deem "false, misleading or biased." That was a reversal from April, when prosecutors refused to join Peterson's former lawyers in encouraging a gag order.

Defense attorneys, led by Mark Geragos, argued against any restraint, saying it would prevent them from countering four months of police-issued propaganda against their client. Gloria Allred -- representing Peterson's former girlfriend, a possible witness -- argued against the gag order because it might prevent her client from defending herself against attacks on her character.

And Charity Kenyon, a Bee attorney representing other media outlets as well, argued that judges have other options for ensuring a fair trial, such as sequestering jurors, bringing jurors in from another county or moving the trial.

But Girolami said such remedies may be ineffective in this instance, noting "the national television media has embraced this case with a passion."

"All of the rumors and gossip would be rehashed shortly before trial, thereby making it extremely difficult to select a fair and impartial jury," Girolami wrote.

He imposed a range of sweeping restrictions, including forbidding public comments about the "existence or possible existence of any document, exhibit, photograph or any other evidence" that could be admitted into evidence.

Parties also are directed not to identify prospective witnesses or make statements about the substance or effect of any testimony provided in court.

The order does allow people to quote or refer to public documents related to the case.

Rory Little, a professor at Hastings College of the Law and a former federal prosecutor, said a judge has to carefully oversee a gag order for it to be effective.

"Gag orders require management. You don't just write them and enforce them," Little said.

If there are breaches, gag orders open the possibility for violators to be held in contempt of court.

Explained Little: "The first time you yank somebody in and say, 'See the marshal over there? He's got handcuffs. They're for you unless you can demonstrate the leak didn't come from you.' Leaks seem to stop after that."

Ruth Jones of McGeorge School of Law, a former prosecutor, said gag orders have produced mixed results in the past. For example, news coverage continued practically unabated despite such orders imposed in the cases of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the Robert Blake murder trial and O.J. Simpson's civil trial.

Gag orders, however, "might change the tone of what people are hearing," Jones said. "They will rely on people on CNN who have no knowledge of the facts of the case."

Search warrants to be released

Girolami's gag order overshadowed the ruling by Beauchesne to make public eight search warrants July 8.

Keeping them under wraps, as requested by prosecutors and defense attorneys, would be "unjustified," Beauchesne wrote in his decision.

Defense attorney Matthew Dalton last week had persuaded Beauchesne to hear evidence of "the real killers" behind closed doors. But, "No evidence on the investigation of 'other suspects' was presented" at that hearing, Beauchesne wrote.>{?

As for prosecutors, Beauchesne wrote that "the entire thrust" of their argument in early April to keep the search warrants secret was to keep from tipping off other possible suspects before Peterson's eventual arrest.

That rationale disappeared, Beauchesne ruled, when Peterson was arrested April 18, particularly because authorities have provided no evidence since that they're investigating anyone else.

Sealing court documents is "the exception, not the rule," Beauchesne noted. He wrote that a "high level of publicity" accompanying the Peterson case "does not justify continued sealing."

Judges issued search warrants for the Petersons' Covena Avenue home, a warehouse Peterson used for his fertilizer sales business, a storage unit, phone records, several vehicles and an envelope found in one of those vehicles.

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Gag Order Issued in Laci Peterson Case
Judge Issues Gag Order in Laci Peterson Murder Case, in Effort to Stop Leaks and Rumors

Gag Order Issued in Laci Peterson Case
Judge Issues Gag Order in Laci Peterson Murder Case, in Effort to Stop Leaks and Rumors

The Associated Press

MODESTO, Calif. June 13 —

A judge in the Laci Peterson murder case issued a gag order barring lawyers, witnesses and police officers from publicly discussing details about the killing of the young pregnant woman.

Judge Al Girolami said that he believed the gag order was the only way to stop leaks and rumors from derailing Peterson's husband's right to a fair trial. Scott Peterson is charged with double murder in the death of his wife and unborn son.

The ruling came the same day another judge in Stanislaus County Superior Court ordered eighth search warrants and related documents in the case unsealed, but postponed their release until July 8.

The documents include affidavits by police giving their reasons for the searches and inventories of items seized.

Girolami cited widespread publicity about the case in issuing his order Thursday. Without it, the judge said "rumors and gossip would be rehashed shortly before trial thereby making it extremely difficult to select a fair and impartial jury."

Anyone who violates the gag order will face contempt charges.

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((Canadian Outrage, here is one of your presses...;o))

Judge issues gag order in Laci Peterson murder case; cites risk to fair trial

Judge issues gag order in Laci Peterson murder case; cites risk to fair trial

Canadian Press

Friday, June 13, 2003

MODESTO, Calif. (AP) - A judge in the Laci Peterson murder case has issued a gag order barring lawyers, witnesses and police officers from publicly discussing details about the killing of the young pregnant woman.

Judge Al Girolami said that he believed the gag order was the only way to stop leaks and rumours from derailing Peterson's husband's right to a fair trial. Scott Peterson is charged with double murder in the death of his wife and unborn son.

The ruling came the same day another judge in Stanislaus County Superior Court ordered eighth search warrants and related documents in the case unsealed, but postponed their release until July 8.

The documents include affidavits by police giving their reasons for the searches and inventories of items seized.

Girolami cited widespread publicity about the case in issuing his order Thursday. Without it, the judge said "rumours and gossip would be rehashed shortly before trial thereby making it extremely difficult to select a fair and impartial jury."

Anyone who violates the gag order will face contempt charges.

At a hearing last week, prosecutors had asked for a limited gag order. Defence lawyer Mark Geragos responded that such a ruling would harm his ability to defend his client. He was joined in his opposition by a lawyer for Scott Peterson's former girlfriend, Amber Frey, who is expected to be a key witness, and a lawyer representing newspapers and broadcasters.

Prosecutors and the defence lawyer have opposed the unsealing of the search warrants.

Prosecutors said it could jeopardize their investigation. Scott Peterson's lawyers said it would hurt their efforts to find the real killers. They have suggested a satanic cult may have abducted and killed the pregnant 27-year-old substitute teacher, who vanished just before Christmas.

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DAD OF SCOTT EX-MISTRESS SPEAKS OUT


Amber Frey

DAD OF SCOTT EX-MISTRESS SPEAKS OUT

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June 13, 2003 -- The father of Amber Frey - accused killer Scott Peterson's former mistress - yesterday told the public to get off his daughter's case.

In a letter to the editor of the Modesto Bee newspaper, Ron Frey said Amber and his Marine son Jason are both average citizens who stepped up to do the right thing under trying conditions.

"They both deserve thanks and respect. Instead, when I watch TV shows, I see Amber being attacked and made to look like a bad person.

"So-called experts on these shows - who have never been lucky enough to meet her and who know nothing about her - feel free to blacken her character.

"For her bravery in coming forward and helping police, she has been 'rewarded' by being exploited for other people's gains, not hers."

Amber has always maintained she didn't know Scott was married.

In another development, the judge in the case issued a gag order, prohibiting all parties from speaking ........

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Judge issues gag order in Laci Peterson murder case

Posted 6/13/2003 8:30 AM

• Judge issues gag order in Laci Peterson murder case - 8:30 AM

Judge issues gag order in Laci Peterson murder case

MODESTO, Calif. (AP) — A judge in the Laci Peterson murder case issued a gag order barring lawyers, witnesses and police officers from publicly discussing details about the killing of the young pregnant woman. Judge Al Girolami said that he believed the gag order was the only way to stop leaks and rumors from derailing Peterson's husband's right to a fair trial. Scott Peterson is charged with double murder in the death of his wife and unborn son.

The ruling came the same day another judge in Stanislaus County Superior Court ordered eighth search warrants and related documents in the case unsealed, but postponed their release until July 8.

The documents include affidavits by police giving their reasons for the searches and inventories of items seized.

Girolami cited widespread publicity about the case in issuing his order Thursday. Without it, the judge said "rumors and gossip would be rehashed shortly before trial thereby making it extremely difficult to select a fair and impartial jury."

Anyone who violates the gag order will face contempt charges.

At a hearing last week, prosecutors had asked for a limited gag order. Defense lawyer Mark Geragos responded that such a ruling would harm his ability to defend his client. He was joined in his opposition by a lawyer for Scott Peterson's former girlfriend, Amber Frey, who is expected to be a key witness, and an attorney representing newspapers and broadcasters.

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Police dig, search at Davis unit


DIGGING: Pete Martin, supervisor of the investigations division at Yolo County district attorney's office, searches a the yard and cabin of a "person of interest" Wednesday at Slater's Court on Olive Drive as authorities served a search warrant at the complex where human remains were found last week. Wayne Tilcock/Enterprise photo

FRIDAY JUNE 13, 2003 DAVIS CA 95616

Police dig, search at Davis unit

Davis' human-remains mystery deepened Wednesday morning, when local and federal authorities searched the Slatter's Park home of a man whom police are calling a "person of interest."

The 41/2-hour search at unit No. 1 involved some digging in the yard but revealed no additional human remains, Davis police Lt. Jim Harritt said. However, authorities reported confiscating various unspecified items that will be evaluated and analyzed.

Police did not release the name of the resident, who has not been arrested. Investigators interviewed him away from his home Wednesday during the search, which was conducted by Davis police with assistance from the Yolo County district attorney's office, the county coroner's office and the Sacramento division of the FBI.

"We had talked to him previously, and he's been cooperative with us," Harritt said. He declined to say how the man became the subject of police attention.

A knock at the man's door was not answered Wednesday afternoon, and neighbors said they hadn't seen him since that morning. Outside, the only signs of a search appeared to be a freshly filled-in hole to the left of the home and a rectangular slab of concrete that had been overturned near the back.

Slatter's Court residents described the man as being in his mid-20s and say he's lived at the Olive Drive community for several years.

"He's always been quiet," said Donna Murillo, who lives across the street. "Some days he says 'hi,' some days he doesn't. That's the way he is."

Added Murillo's husband, Tony: "He's a little different, but it doesn't mean he's guilty."

News of Wednesday's search once again attracted members of the media to Slatter's Court, which has become the subject of nationwide attention since a maintenance worker found the decomposed and mummified body parts in a plastic bin next to a Dumpster on June 3. Coroner's officials believe the remains are from as many as four different people, both male and female.

The discovery has attracted nationwide media attention, largely due to speculation that the remains are somehow connected to the Laci Peterson homicide case and the defense theory that her death was the work of a satanic cult. Mark Geragos, the attorney representing Peterson's husband Scott, has expressed interest in the remains, although coroner's officials have said the body parts that could potentially be Peterson's appear to be from an older woman.

"We're 99.9 percent sure it's not her," Lt. Harritt said today. "But just to be safe, we need to do a DNA rule-out."

The DNA analysis of the remains is expected to begin today, when the body parts will be taken to a lab in Richmond for DNA extraction, Yolo County Supervising Deputy Coroner Mary Koompin-Williams said. On Wednesday, the remains underwent a preliminary examination by a forensic anthropologist at Chico State University.

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A humor of a petty theft AP story

Shoplifter puts the sting on Kmart

Shoplifter puts the sting on Kmart

The Associated Press

Published: June 13, 2003, 07:49:00 AM PDT

SEDALIA, Mo. (AP) - A shoplifter caused a buzz in a department store restroom and made off with about $60 worth of CDs, perfume, batteries and scissors. The man released a swarm of honeybees in a Kmart restroom, creating a diversion that allowed him to escape, authorities said.

Store security spotted the man shoplifting Monday and followed him to the restroom to confront him. When the worker opened the door, about 100 bees buzzed out.

"He probably started yelling 'Bees! Bees!' or whatever the case may be, then created that big diversion, then got out," said police Cmdr. John DeGonia.

Store employees pulled cans of bug spray off store shelves to kill the bees. No one was stung.

(Excerpt) Read more at modbee.com ...


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Two Court Documents Online

Posted on Thursday, June 12 2003 at 4:07 PM PST ----

Information provided by Superior Court Administration:

A total of two (2) new court documents were released today and are available on this Web site.

Please download & read these documents for further information.

Judge Roger Beauchesne has ruled to unseal the 8 pre-arrest search warrants in the Scott Peterson matter. The release of the search warrants is stayed until July 8, 2003 or until further order of any Court of competent jurisdiction.

(See Minute Order for more details - click here: for document).

Judge Al Girolami has released a Minute Order regarding the issuance of a Protective Order. The Order places strict limitations on the attorneys and others connected with the Scott Peterson case as to what can be discussed or released publicly.

(See Minute Order for more details - click here: for document)

No comments on or clarifications of the Decision will be made by Superior Court staff.


1 posted on 06/13/2003 8:51:47 AM PDT by runningbear
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To: Rheo; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Scupoli; sissyjane; TexKat; Lanza; Mrs.Liberty; ...
pinging on some of yesterday's and todays Peterson Case.
2 posted on 06/13/2003 8:52:41 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: LuvMyNick; RightOnGOP; Valpal1; phd2b; SandyEgo; shattered; oceanperch; Jackie-O; uvular; Spunky; ..
pinging on some of yesterday's and today's Peterson Case.
3 posted on 06/13/2003 8:53:22 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Thanks!
4 posted on 06/13/2003 8:57:10 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: runningbear
About time this judge gags these out of control lawyers.

He should send a deputy to Walmart and get a case of heavy duty duct tape. Proper useage will ensure that his gag order is complied with.
5 posted on 06/13/2003 8:58:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: runningbear

Gag me, Please!


6 posted on 06/13/2003 8:59:56 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Private 1st Class - 101st Viking Kitty.....Valhalla.....All the Way!)
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To: runningbear
Thanks, rb!
7 posted on 06/13/2003 9:07:15 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Zavien Doombringer; All
That is why I left out that comment. Some like Amber, some don't...

I have no favorable opinion of her, she made her life who she is, and that is that! ;o)

Judge Issues Gag Order In Peterson Case

Judge Issues Gag Order In Peterson Case

POSTED: 9:55 a.m. PDT June 12, 2003
UPDATED: 5:37 p.m. PDT June 12, 2003

RICHMOND, Calif. -- Citing numerous leaks in the case, Stanislaus Superior Court Judge Al Girolami issued a gag order late Thursday in the trial of Scott Peterson, who is accused of killing his wife and the couple's unborn child.

Girolami wrote in his decision that "although the Court is extremely concerned with the due process and fair trial rights in this case, it is also keenly aware of the public's right of access to the proceedings herein and the right of free speech of the participants."

"However, after balancing these rights, and in order to protect against the disruption of the proper administration of justice, the Court finds that good cause exists for the issuance of a pre-trial protective order."

Among the individuals the judge was critical of was State Attorney General Bill Lockyer, who commented that the case was a 'slam dunk' when he announced the autopsy report that identified the badly decomposed bodies of a woman and a fetus recovered from a San Francisco Bay shoreline as those of Laci Peterson and her unborn son, Conner.

"The nature of the publicity is especially troubling as it often involves leaks of information that could be considered favorable for one side or the other," the judge wrote.

Girolami also may have tipped his hand on how he would rule on a change of venue request in the case when he wrote in the decision that "a change of venue and extensive voir dire are not especially helpful in this case because of publicity which has been broadcast throughout this state and country."

The order also covers Amber Frey -- Peterson's former mistress -- who is expected to be a key witness in the case. A copy of the Girolami's order was sent to Frey's attorney, Gloria Allred.

The order came at the end of another day of numerous developments in the case.

Hours before the gag order, sources told KTVU that Scott Peterson had made numerous trips to the Berkeley Marina while a massive search was underway throughout Northern California -- including the waters of the San Francisco Bay -- for any sign of his missing pregnant wife.

The revelation came hours before Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Roger M. Beauchesne issued an order making the search and arrests warrants and their associated documents in the capital murder case public. But in the same order, the judge stayed the release pending a ruling on the issue from the appellate court scheduled for July 8.

Several media outlets had petitioned the court, asking that the documents be released as is dictated by state law. However, attorneys on both sides of the case had asked for differing reasons that the court to keep the documents sealed.

Investigators were also to deliver copies of all wiretaps in the case to Scott Peterson's defense team. The wiretaps have been a source of contention in the case, particularly 69 intercepted calls between Peterson and his defense attorney, Kirk McAllister. There were also two calls between Peterson and a private investigator working for McAllister recorded.

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Ted Rowlands Thursday Report On The Peterson Case Video clip.....

8 posted on 06/13/2003 9:31:11 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Grampa Dave
LOL.....
9 posted on 06/13/2003 9:34:22 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
oh, I forgot to add, "it takes 2 to tango".... lol.. Media likes to publish the very unflattery type of photos.... ;o)
10 posted on 06/13/2003 9:37:45 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Now, if only that gag order could extend to Geraldo...

...I wonder if this means the end of FNC, with no new Laci leaks to report...

11 posted on 06/13/2003 10:00:31 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: MizSterious
The gag order specifically mentions (and gags) Geraldo, Katie Couric, and Larry King, IIRC.
Looks like we may be in for a leak-free month.
12 posted on 06/13/2003 10:42:42 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: redlipstick
Gretta wasn't on the list...
13 posted on 06/13/2003 11:16:16 AM PDT by Bella
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To: Bella
No, there's no gag on Greta.
I'm trying to find an article mentioning the gagged pundits...
14 posted on 06/13/2003 11:45:49 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: redlipstick
Yikes! I have never heard of that! Is that possible for a judge to extend that far beyond the principals in the case? In Britain, the press cannot go nuts like we do due to laws that prohibit it. But one judge, one case?
15 posted on 06/13/2003 11:51:20 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: MizSterious
...I wonder if this means the end of FNC, with no new Laci leaks to report...

Even Pat Buchanan and Bill Press have been covering it. Same with Chris Matthews.

16 posted on 06/13/2003 11:52:27 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: redlipstick
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/06/13/BA300905.DTL
17 posted on 06/13/2003 11:57:38 AM PDT by Bella
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To: BunnySlippers; Bella
Okay, I see now that I misunderstood - the judge mentioned them, but he didn't gag them. Too bad!

"Judge Al Girolami of Stanislaus County Superior Court, citing the "massive" media interest in the case, ordered defense attorneys, prosecutors, police and potential witnesses from sharing their opinions with reporters or releasing any evidence.

"Besides extensive local television and radio coverage, the national television media has embraced this case with a passion, providing frequent commentaries from notables like Larry King, Geraldo Rivera and Katie Couric," Girolami wrote in his six-page ruling.

In issuing the gag order, the judge noted that even Peterson's lead attorney, Mark Geragos of Los Angeles, regularly discussed the case on cable news programs before he was retained to defend Peterson on charges of murdering his wife, Laci, and their unborn son."

18 posted on 06/13/2003 12:42:42 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: Grampa Dave
~~~He should send a deputy to Walmart and get a case of heavy duty duct tape. Proper useage will ensure that his gag order is complied with. ~~~

I'll volunteer to draw little 'happy faces' on the tape covering each mouth!
19 posted on 06/13/2003 12:45:51 PM PDT by justshe (If it ain't baroque, don't phiques it.)
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To: redlipstick
*****The gag order specifically mentions (and gags) Geraldo, Katie Couric, and Larry King, IIRC.*****

Wonder if Rita felt slighted.
20 posted on 06/13/2003 12:54:15 PM PDT by justshe (If it ain't baroque, don't phiques it.)
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To: justshe
If you are needed, you can fly down with your magic marker pen.
21 posted on 06/13/2003 1:04:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: justshe
Poor Rita, she has so much BS from her inside sources, that the judge figured that it would be hard to tell what was real and not real when she motor mouths.

My wife about broke a rib laughing the first night of the Iraqi war. First Rita was bragging about her intel sources and what they were telling. Real intel people never talk about what they are doing, will do and have done.

Then Rita talked about stealth fighters/bombers taking off of carriers. At that point, my wife switched the tv over to Jag rerun while muttering, "No Wonder Blondes are made fun of!"
22 posted on 06/13/2003 1:09:11 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: justshe
Poor Rita. All the leaking of her "special sources" and the judge didn't even notice.

He didn't mention Catherine Crier, either, and she's one of the worst, right up there with Geraldo. And what about Dan Abrams? Hmm.

BTW, I volunteer to remove the duct tape - very slowly, one whisker at a time - when it's time for Geragos to speak. Or would it be better to give one fast pull?
23 posted on 06/13/2003 1:11:30 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: Grampa Dave
Your wife was better off watching the JAG rerun.

I've ranted often on here about my feelings about Rita. I will NEVER forgive her for almost causing me to suffer cardiac arrest when she gleefully and erroneously read the SCOTUS decision re: the Presidential election while standing on the steps of the Supreme Court.

And when she finally DID get it right, I thought she was going to break into tears. What is that word the kids use? Bee--yotch!
24 posted on 06/13/2003 1:20:14 PM PDT by justshe (If it ain't baroque, don't phiques it.)
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To: redlipstick
I am ALL for prolonging Geragos' agony.....so I would do it EVER so slooooooowly. To quick and his pain is over too quick.
25 posted on 06/13/2003 1:21:52 PM PDT by justshe (If it ain't baroque, don't phiques it.)
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To: runningbear
Judge muzzles both sides in Peterson case

Now can he muzzle the media too, please?

26 posted on 06/13/2003 1:25:46 PM PDT by kevao
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To: runningbear
Here is the MAIN thing to remember in the days ahead..

He imposed a range of sweeping restrictions, including forbidding public comments about the "existence or possible existence of any document, exhibit, photograph or any other evidence" that could be admitted into evidence. Parties also are directed not to identify prospective witnesses or make statements about the substance or effect of any testimony provided in court.
The order does allow people to quote or refer to public documents related to the case.

IOW's all that we will hear now from RELIABLE parties is a re-hash of docs. already public knowledge.
Here is the PROBLEM
Gag orders, however, "might change the tone of what people are hearing," Jones said. "They will rely on people on CNN who have no knowledge of the facts of the case."

Most people will tune into LKL or Court TV and start accepting everything out of their mouths as the gospel truth...

27 posted on 06/13/2003 1:56:01 PM PDT by alexandria ( T.A.K.E. {{"The All Knowing Entity."}})
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To: runningbear
The article's writer thinks the judge was giving a clue as to how he will react to the coming motion for a change of venue: not too sympathetically.

And the judge mentions that "even" counsel Mark Geragos has appeared on talk shows.

Coming ever closer to that day when Geragos whines for a change of venue b/c of "all the overweening publicity, Your Honor", and the judge replies, "much of which was your own doing, Mr. Geragos...motion denied."

Just a guess.
28 posted on 06/13/2003 2:49:00 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: HSimon
Search warrant information, if eventually released, will be part of the public record and not subject to the gag order.
30 posted on 06/13/2003 3:56:45 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Devil_Anse
I Love it!! The Judge was, in effect, giving Geragos a backhand!! ROFL!!
31 posted on 06/13/2003 4:01:48 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: alexandria
Alexandria, a lot of people already do. Even from Geraldo.
32 posted on 06/13/2003 4:24:46 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: Devil_Anse
From your keyboard to the judge's eyes.
33 posted on 06/13/2003 4:25:49 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: redlipstick
Thanks for the clarification--I re-read the article, and couldn't find where Geraldo had been gagged--wondered if I'd missed something.

But I agree. He should have been. And not just on this case. :)

34 posted on 06/13/2003 4:28:19 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: BunnySlippers
No kidding? I don't watch those two, so I had no idea. Well, I guess it's official. It's now a full fledged epidemic.

35 posted on 06/13/2003 4:31:09 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: alexandria
Feiger was almost doing a dance last night.....saying "WE" are what you will be listening to for awhile!

Going to be interesting. The main muzzled newsies can only report on the gag order for so long....and THEN what?

This is going to be interesting to watch.
36 posted on 06/13/2003 4:33:46 PM PDT by justshe (Some do not need to wait on a 'gift'......we think for ourselves.)
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To: justshe
"...and THEN what?"

Well, I'm very interested in this case, but frankly, I could do with a little less coverage of it. Most of what they've reported (from their leaks) just begs even more questions. Some of the interviews, with people who knew people who knew people who once saw Laci--I could do without those. Now, perhaps when they report, they'll have some actual news, as opposed to someone's spin. I hope. I'd like to know the truth of this case.

37 posted on 06/13/2003 4:45:31 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: MizSterious

Boy, isn't THAT the truth...ala my sister used to date the dentist of the guy who used to live in the house where Scott and Laci lived!

I'd also like to know the truth of this case. But we'll probably know nothing until the prelim....and the actual trial. Fine by me, actually. The newsies wouldn't be reporting all these leaks/suppositions/opinions/accusations if there were not an avid viewing public eating it up and calling for more.

Mea culpa, I have been part of that audience.

38 posted on 06/13/2003 4:56:30 PM PDT by justshe (Conservative by nature ... Republican by spirit ... Patriot by heart ... AND ... ANTI-Liberal by GOD)
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To: justshe
Love the tagline!
39 posted on 06/13/2003 4:58:39 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: justshe
and THEN what?

Probably nothing new for awhile. I do like the fact that Geragos had no evidence to present to the judge concerning his "actual" killer. No evidence to support that there was any suspect other than his client, that should be newsworthy given all his blather. "Days away from solving this case, if not sooner" - May 21st.

40 posted on 06/13/2003 5:02:11 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: All
In the meantime, on 48 Hours Investigates tonight(10:00pm est), tells the story of the murder of Donnah Winger by her husband, Mark.

By all accounts from friends and family, they too, had a storybook marriage.

41 posted on 06/13/2003 5:15:08 PM PDT by uvular
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To: redlipstick
"Borrowed" the tagline from a poster on this thread by Jim Robinson. Figured it was OK to borrow it since JR endorsed, and even 'adopted' the phrase too! It states my philosophy to a TEE! Is Free Republic too "Republican"?
42 posted on 06/13/2003 5:18:42 PM PDT by justshe (Conservative by nature ... Republican by spirit ... Patriot by heart ... AND ... ANTI-Liberal by GOD)
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To: RGSpincich
I was wondering WHEN that statement had been made. Thanks. May 21st and STILL waiting!
43 posted on 06/13/2003 5:23:03 PM PDT by justshe (Conservative by nature ... Republican by spirit ... Patriot by heart ... AND ... ANTI-Liberal by GOD)
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To: runningbear
Some like Amber, some don't...

Just a point of clarification, in order to avoid painting with broad brushes like this: I don't like or dislike Amber Frey. I just had an opinion that some comments made about her were baseless and uncalled for.

44 posted on 06/13/2003 5:26:13 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: redlipstick
The gag order specifically mentions (and gags) Geraldo, Katie Couric, and Larry King, IIRC.

!

45 posted on 06/13/2003 5:27:58 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: justshe
Just as guilty here. But we're hungry for news on this case because we'd all like to know the truth of it. Nothing wrong with that!

46 posted on 06/13/2003 5:28:07 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: redlipstick
Thanks for the excerpt.

I guess Greta hasn't risen to the "notables" level...

(I still have hopes that Fox is a good influence on some of these reporters, like Greta...)
47 posted on 06/13/2003 5:30:41 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: justshe
I've ranted often on here about my feelings about Rita. I will NEVER forgive her for almost causing me to suffer cardiac arrest when she gleefully and erroneously read the SCOTUS decision re: the Presidential election while standing on the steps of the Supreme Court.

Same here, and Lord knows, I've tried to keep an open mind regarding her.

Too breathless, and I can STILL recall the exact moment I heard her erroneous reporting.

48 posted on 06/13/2003 5:33:54 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: MizSterious
Laci Peterson Update!!!!!

Laci and her baby ARE STILL DEAD!!!

We still don't know FOR SURE WHO KILLED THEM!!!

Scott peterson is STILL IN JAIL!!!

Police are still investigating!!!

NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE SCOTT PETERSON WAS ARRESTED!!!!!

There is no need for FNC or anyone else to have endless coverage.
49 posted on 06/13/2003 5:36:12 PM PDT by bigj00
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To: justshe
But we'll probably know nothing until the prelim....and the actual trial. Fine by me, actually.

That is fine with me, as well. With VERY few exceptions, the only trustworthy evidence will be presented under oath, in front of a judge, and then a jury at trial.

50 posted on 06/13/2003 5:39:38 PM PDT by cyncooper
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