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John Ross’ Speech
Posted on 06/16/2003 7:57:33 AM PDT by ezo4
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To: ezoeni
This article, though making a good point that there are more choices now than then, but it neglects an important point: the gap between what law enforcement officers and other Lords can have and what we and other peasants can have, has been growing nonstop since 1934. They now have 50 round, select fire, armor piercing .223-class handguns (sorry, "sawed-off rifles") whose individual rounds are felonies for us peasants to possess. The march of technology brings us into the future, but we are being left behind compared to where our "protectors" are going.
To: ezoeni
One thing not mentioned is the Death Penalty meted out to Smith and Wesson over their traitorous sellout to the Clinton administration. THAT was a good thing.
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posted on
06/16/2003 9:39:11 AM PDT
by
ikka
To: ezoeni
The people in Canada, England, and Australia have socialized medicine. We practically boiled in oil the politicians who tried to inflict socialized medicine on America.Until the GOP embraced it.
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posted on
06/16/2003 10:32:57 AM PDT
by
Sir Gawain
(Mongo only pawn in game of life)
To: ezoeni
GENERAL 1982 CLIMATE: The U.S. military with its nearly limitless supply of state-of-the-art aircraft, bombs, and other weaponry, has just suffered a humiliating defeat on the other side of the world; at the hands of a scraggly bunch of individual soldiers armed primarily with captured weapons and fighting on their home turf. 1982 is six years after our Bicentennial, and Vietnam is a replay of what went 200 years before, when Americans were the individually armed citizens facing a world-class army. John Ross should (and may) know better. The Viet Cong and Viet Minh may have been armed with capture weapons early on, but by the 1960s they had new production AK-47s, Katuska (sic) rockets, motors, and so forth. The NVA had everything mother Russia and China could ship them. Up to and including Mig-21 fighters, tanks, and of course the heaviest air defense system outside of Moscow, with radars, heavy AAA and SAMs. Even with all that, they didn't win on the battle field but rather on the campuses of the United States and in the halls of Congress. The end, for South Vietnam, came with the second of two conventional all arms invasions, with armored divisions that would have made Patton or Rommel envious. The first was stopped with the help of US airpower by the ARVN, when the second came, US airpower was either gone or forbidden from interviening, while the ARVN was starved for supplies.
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posted on
06/16/2003 10:44:26 AM PDT
by
El Gato
To: Travis McGee
He's 'almost finished' that thing for about five years now.
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posted on
06/16/2003 10:44:40 AM PDT
by
El Sordo
To: El Gato
motors, == mortars
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posted on
06/16/2003 10:48:22 AM PDT
by
El Gato
To: ezoeni
The Federal Collectors license lets holders buy any Title 1 guns at least 50 years old through the mail. The Brady law is in effect, but likely to be thrown out as unconstitutional. The federal gun-free schools law has been declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. The 1986 MG ban is legally identical and may be next. Lloyd Bentsen has decreed that three shotguns (USAS-12, Striker, and Streetsweeper) are destructive devices and must be registered as such; the public responds with less than 1% compliance despite draconian penalties. Hmm, this sounds as if it were written in about 1993, post Brady, but before the assault weapons ban, since the latter is probably the single largest violation of arms rights since the NFA, yet it's not even mentioned in the speech. I would observe that Braday has not been declared unconstitutionial and such is not even on the horizon, AFAIK.
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posted on
06/16/2003 10:54:52 AM PDT
by
El Gato
To: Beelzebubba
Hugh Hewitt plays a movie clip on his show that says, "I don't like you because you'r egoing to get me killed."
I think phrase applies to all dem policies.
Guns: Take them away and we're at the mercy of criminals. SUVs: Take them away and we're stuck driving death traps.
Immigraation: Let anyone come in illegally, with no accountability and commit additional crimes, like the San Diego rapist kidnapper of 9 year old girl.
Healthcare: Give us Socialized Medicine and no organ transplants after age 55, like England, long waits for surgery and even routine doctor visits.
Abortion: Kill the children.
Homosexuality: AIDS, Hepatitis B, and other STDs.
Unionism: Higher wages forcing companies overseas, causing more unemployment and poverty, forcing us to be dependent on other countries for our every day products.
Education; Causing our children to be stupid, adding to circle of poverty.
Leniency for criminals: Let 'em out early only to kill again.
There's the beginning of my list. I truly believe that dems are trying to kill enough of us so that we will cry out for their help. I will be hounding candidates with questions of why do so many dem policies appear to want us dead.
To: Joe Brower
Thanks....will read this later...when my boss is not around!
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posted on
06/16/2003 11:25:06 AM PDT
by
Feiny
(Buying someone a drink is five times better than a handshake!)
To: El Sordo
Well the RKBA which I have been writing for three years is finished, and will be printed next month.
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posted on
06/16/2003 12:02:47 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: ezoeni; technochick99; joanie-f
Things are looking up. The more they tighten their grip, the more we slip through their fingers.
To: Betty Jane
You may like this one. On our discussion board at the Law School, I posted "Isn't it funny that those who oppose gun safety courses in schools generally favor unrestricted abortion? Apparently, they'd rather kill the children and destroy the guns than try safety education."
To: ezoeni
I wrote Mr. Ross asking if that was actually his article and he just wrote me back. With a few hours.
From me:
I recently read a post from the thehighroad.org with a speech written by you. I reposted this speech to another forum that I read and there seems to be a discrepancy by some of the members that it was actually you who wrote it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/929857/posts?page=13
Can you tell me if this is your work or not
Thanks
e
Oh by way the loved your book
His response
Yes, it's mine. I think it's interesting that some are calling me a "sellout" because I point out the good and not just the bad. If you think I'm a sellout, ask yourself this: If Brady, Schumer, Clinton, Feinstein, etc. read my article, do you think they would be PLEASED about what it said?
Yes, the police can have a 14" M16 and you have to make do with a semi. But guess what, a 20" AR-15 is a BETTER GUN. It has a better trigger, is more controllable, and the velocity is much higher. Yes, you ought to be able to own anything, but the fact that you can't doesn't change the fact that:
1. There are many great guns now that weren't available at any price not long ago. S&W's .500 Magnum--if you wanted to craft a response to the HUD Agreement that says "Fuck you, strong letter to follow" could *you* dream up anything better? And a 27-ounce .44 mag? Meet my new carry gun!;
2. Ammo is much cheaper and better;
3. There has been a sea change in sentiment among the public, especially women, regarding Right-To-Carry, which is rapidly becoming law in every state;
4. The best legal minds are now on our side and up to speed. Silviera VS Lockyer may be the case that restores everything.
News Flash: Guns and gunowners have ALWAYS been under assault since at least the end of WWI. Read your history. When the .357 came out in 1935 we got the same BS about "No one needs a gun this powerful." Now we have it in an 11-ounce J-frame. There are always people who try to chill your rights. That's reality, ever since the founding of our country. Don't whine about it, spit on your hands and get in the fight.
Post this if you want.
John Ross
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posted on
06/16/2003 2:10:13 PM PDT
by
ezo4
To: *bang_list; ezoeni
Thanks for going to the trouble to verify this, and thanks to John Ross for his immediate response.
Say what you want about JR, he doesn't mince words or color his meaning. He's a straight ahead guy.
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posted on
06/16/2003 2:39:34 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: ezoeni
I also wrote Mr. Ross and got a reply verifying it as authentic.
I wouldn't call him a sellout, however, beleiving that there is a time to cry alarm, and a time to claim victory, I disagree only that this is a time to pat ourselves on the back.
While technology and the economy have advanced, and this includes firearms, we have lost much more than we have gained. But the article merits a thoughtful response, not knee-jerk "sellout" accusations.
To: Travis McGee
Yeah the only problem I have with this is me being dyslectic when it comes to typing messages with grammar and spelling errors...especially concerning an author like John Ross
Kind of embarrassing but getting a email from him made my freaken day
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posted on
06/16/2003 2:56:38 PM PDT
by
ezo4
To: ezoeni
Very nice, and straight from the horses mouth!
I don't think I need to remind y'all to watch the Silviera VS Lockyer case closely....'cause Mr. Ross is right, this might be the one that breaks their backs.
Thanks for putting the ID controversy to bed.
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posted on
06/16/2003 2:59:18 PM PDT
by
EBUCK
(FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
To: ezoeni
Tagged.
It's Not Just A Gun...
It's My "HOMELAND DEFENSE RIFLE"!!
To: Joe Brower
Thanks for the ping.
Good read; I never thought of it this way.
Time to get that Glock, though, in .357. Although I do love the .40.
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posted on
06/16/2003 3:45:09 PM PDT
by
MonroeDNA
(Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
To: ezoeni
Outstanding.
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posted on
06/16/2003 3:50:54 PM PDT
by
MonroeDNA
(Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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