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Iranian Alert -- DAY 8 -- LIVE THREAD PING LIST
LIVE THREAD PING LIST | 6.13.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 06/17/2003 1:48:30 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

We are getting so many excellent stories coming in about the protests in Iran that it is time to create a live thread.

Please post all news stories in this thread and ping your lists to this thread so we can increase the overall awareness of what exactly is going on.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; protest; southasialist; studentmovement; warlist
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1 posted on 06/17/2003 1:48:30 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: JulieRNR21; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Pan_Yans Wife; RobFromGa; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; ...
It is now the eighth day of protests...

In 1999 there were 4 days of protests that led to the July 9th crackdown of the students. Many students were killed and hundreds are either still in prison or missing. This is why you are hearing the Iranian people want to remember the July 9th event with massive protests and STRIKES!

So eight days of protests is a huge accomplishment already.

This time is different, however. This time it is not just students protesting. Now over 90% of the protesters are typical working class Iranians. The movement is much broader based.

There are even reports of Iranians going door to door raising funds for the workers who are going to strike soon. If the strikes happen, it will cripple the country and it will force rapid change.

I will continue to post articles and news from my direct contacts here. Please encourage others to do the same.


If you want on or off my Iran ping list, please Freepmail me.
2 posted on 06/17/2003 1:59:25 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Regime forced to postpone universities year end exams
SMCCDI (Information Service)
June 16, 2003

The Islamic republic regime has been forced to postpone the universities year end exams as the students have announced their decision to ban any participation in the tests.

The move shows more and more the increasing gap between the Islamic republic and thousands of students who knowing that they won't have any future with such regime have decided to carry a mass action intending to ridiculise more the theocratic institution.

Source: SMCCDI

http://www.iran-daneshjoo.org/cgi-bin/smccdinews/viewnews.cgi?category=5&id=1055829151
3 posted on 06/17/2003 2:00:27 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
The move shows more and more the increasing gap between the Islamic republic and thousands of students who knowing that they won't have any future with such regime have decided to carry a mass action intending to ridiculise more the theocratic institution.

Why don't the students feel they have a future with the regime? Is it because the mullahs are Arab, and the students Persian?

4 posted on 06/17/2003 2:04:13 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: DoctorZIn
Good news ping!
5 posted on 06/17/2003 2:12:09 AM PDT by lainde
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To: SauronOfMordor
The regime controls the economy. Managed economies fail. It is failing in Iran. Their graduates have to leave the country to find work.

Also the regime is repressive and the Iranian people see themselves as an educated cultured society. It chaffs at the rigid laws of the land.

The people also want to have a part in their government and currently they have little input.

Their newspapers have been closed.

The regime is trying to jam all satellite broadcasts into the country and they are getting better at it. I have been getting reports of people who were getting news whose satellite dishes no longer receive signals.

And to answer your question about the mullahs. Most are Iranian but the leadership has

6 posted on 06/17/2003 2:12:10 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
You might enjoy hearing this...

Tonight I was speaking with a student in Tehran and she told me "whomever u talk to, blesses Bush and they feel much better emotionally and feel that there is a hope."

They want to believe the world is watching and that the Mullahs will collaspe under the pressure.

Keep emailing the media about these stories.
7 posted on 06/17/2003 2:14:51 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
And to answer your question about the mullahs. Most are Iranian but the leadership has

Your post got cut off in mid-sentence

8 posted on 06/17/2003 2:17:54 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: DoctorZIn
Here is an interesting piece...

June 16, 2003, 10:10 a.m.
Mullah Crossroads
National Review Online (an excerpt)

State faces a decision about direction of policy toward Iranian mullahs.

With the departure Friday of the State Department's leading cheerleader for engagemen
t of the Iranian mullahs — and the continued demonstrations of thousands of students protesting those same leaders — Foggy Bottom is at a crossroads. Choosing a different path — one of supporting the cause of freedom in "axis of evil" nation Iran — is unlikely, however, as most of State's professional diplomats back the failed policy of "engaging" the oppressive regime.

http://nationalreview.com/mowbray/mowbray061603.asp

9 posted on 06/17/2003 2:20:19 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: SauronOfMordor
....And to answer your question about the mullahs. Most are Iranian but the leadership has ...

And to answer your question about the mullahs. Most are Iranian but the leadership has been forced to go to Iraq and Syria to find mullahs who will do their bidding.
10 posted on 06/17/2003 2:25:12 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
Cross-link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/929596/posts
Unrest in Iran
various FR links | 06-15-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
11 posted on 06/17/2003 2:27:53 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Cold Warrior, draggin' his BAR into the sunset...)
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To: DoctorZIn
Reza Pahlavi, son of the former Shah of Iran has just released a letter to:

His Excellency Kofi Annan
Secretary General
United Nations
New York, NY 10017


Your Excellency:

For the seventh consecutive night, the people of Iran have courageously defied the harsh repression of the ruling clerics and have expressed their legitimate demands for freedom and democracy in Iran via nonviolent methods.

I have first hand information that these demonstrations have faced brutal crackdown and scores of people have been arrested. International news reports, from Iran, also substantiate the fact that government supported militia have fired upon pro-democracy demonstrators. This brutal crackdown is in conformity with the clerical regime's announced policy of ruthless measures against any protester demanding freedom and democracy in Iran. The use of violence against defenseless civilians and mass arrests is a cause of great concern to me and my compatriots worldwide.

The international community is rightfully alarmed by reports of violence against my compatriots and their mass arrests. However, it should use any and all opportunities to call upon the clerical regime of Iran to adhere to the principles of human rights, cease its violence, and release all those who have thus far been arrested.

The clerical regime of Iran is a signatory to the United Nation's charter and, as such, is obligated to fully respect the basic rights of the people of Iran. Iranians have the right to self expression and the right to implement their political wishes through free elections and a national, transparent referendum.

I urgently ask your Excellency's good offices to utilize all its available resources to prevent the further loss of innocent lives and to energetically support the rights of the people of Iran in their legitimate demand for self determination. The Islamic regime of Iran must be held accountable for its violations of human rights against the people of Iran and its failure to comply with the UN charter.

With best regards,


Reza Pahlavi


NOTE: I doubt whether Koffi Annan will do anything, but it may encourage the protesters and embarass the UN.

DoctorZin
12 posted on 06/17/2003 2:43:20 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: everyone
On July 9th, why don't we all arrange to go on a specific website (I don't know what) and do a virtual protest, do something to coincide with the Iranian people's moment of destiny.

FREE IRAN
13 posted on 06/17/2003 2:43:28 AM PDT by Big Bad Bob (SAY NO TO EUROPEAN CONSITITUTION)
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To: Big Bad Bob
Interesting Idea...

Lets see what we can do....
14 posted on 06/17/2003 2:45:59 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
I am certian that Kofi is on the side of the Iranian gubment on this one.
15 posted on 06/17/2003 2:48:29 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: exnavy
duh...

16 posted on 06/17/2003 2:49:37 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
Hi! I have been reading your accounts and will check this thread periodically. I am praying for the success of the demonstrations.
17 posted on 06/17/2003 3:00:53 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: DoctorZIn
If you're there now, or if you have friends there in the middle of this, PLEASE pass the word that you all are in all our prayers. And, of course, BE CAREFUL!
18 posted on 06/17/2003 3:15:02 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: DoctorZIn

some links-
http://www.iranexpert.com/
http://www.tehran.com/s/persiadaily/
http://www.sunspot.net/news/opinion/bal-ed.iran17jun17,0,7627495.story?coll=bal-opinion-headlines
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/2003/06/17/news/world/6104457.htm
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2003/06/17/2003055598
http://www.dawn.com/2003/06/17/int1.htm
19 posted on 06/17/2003 3:46:02 AM PDT by visualops (I like Liberals. They remind me of when I was young and stupid.)
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To: DoctorZIn
Thank you so much for the ping!!! I've been trying to keep up with everything posted about this and you have been giving everyone so much fantastic information!

It's driving me crazy that we can't help them, is there anything you know of that we can do? I've already written media contacts asking that they cover this more extensively and also talk directly to students or supporters. Is there any way you know of for us to send money to help get passed to striking families? Any international org's supporting them we can donate to?
20 posted on 06/17/2003 4:58:10 AM PDT by Tamzee (Liberalism.... the willing suspense of rationality.)
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To: DoctorZIn
Tonight I was speaking with a student in Tehran and she told me "whomever u talk to, blesses Bush and they feel much better emotionally and feel that there is a hope."

Send this to the NYT.

21 posted on 06/17/2003 5:07:17 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (proud member of a fierce, warlike tribe of a fire-breathing conservative band of Internet brothers)
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To: DoctorZIn; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee
This time is different, however. This time it is not just students protesting. Now over 90% of the protesters are typical working class Iranians. The movement is much broader based.

Revolution is in the air.

Great reporting, keep it up, por favor.

22 posted on 06/17/2003 5:13:58 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (proud member of a fierce, warlike tribe of a fire-breathing conservative band of Internet brothers)
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To: DoctorZIn
Thanks for all your reports! Keep me on the ping list.
23 posted on 06/17/2003 5:18:17 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Big Bad Bob; DoctorZIn
On July 9th, why don't we all arrange to go on a specific website (I don't know what) and do a virtual protest, do something to coincide with the Iranian people's moment of destiny.

FREE IRAN

I nominate CNN.com

24 posted on 06/17/2003 6:20:57 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: DoctorZIn
I see you have your ping list together. Good!

Thanks for the ping! I have to go, now, but will check back in about half an hour. Looking forward to reading the thread!

25 posted on 06/17/2003 6:24:10 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. -- P.J.)
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To: DoctorZIn
Free Persia bump.

26 posted on 06/17/2003 6:45:02 AM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: DoctorZIn
Replace the Islamic Republic with a Free Republic.

Free Persia now.

27 posted on 06/17/2003 6:46:01 AM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: TigerTale
Well, I see that the French have been there normal "useful" self in regards to this situation in Iran. They have probably put a stop to the whole revolution by storming the opposition people in France and confiscating their funds. This makes me even more furious at the French. Grrrrrrr.
28 posted on 06/17/2003 6:51:07 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: *southasia_list
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
29 posted on 06/17/2003 6:56:04 AM PDT by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: exnavy
"I am certian that Kofi is on the side of the Iranian gubment on this one." Yup! Follow da money!
30 posted on 06/17/2003 6:56:39 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: WVNan
Hmmm...if money is the issue, the French can't compete with and energized U.S. I wonder what a nationally broadcast "Liberation Fundraiser" would collect in America. I'm guessing quite a bit. A quarter of a century has not erased the memory of those 444 days.
31 posted on 06/17/2003 6:56:40 AM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: DoctorZIn
July 9 sounds like a big day for the Iranian people , great job keeping us abreast and informed on the situation!
32 posted on 06/17/2003 6:57:32 AM PDT by ewing
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To: jriemer
Maybe we should make our support known on ABCNNBCBS.COMS.
33 posted on 06/17/2003 7:13:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Support The Brave Iranians as they bring about a needed regime change!)
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To: DoctorZIn
Thanks for this post and all of your previous posts.

Please keep me on your ping list.
34 posted on 06/17/2003 7:14:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Support The Brave Iranians as they bring about a needed regime change!)
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To: DoctorZIn
Please keep me on your ping list, and thanks for all the information.

The deep desire in the human heart for freedom is a powerful force to be reckoned with.

I am praying for the success of this revolution, with minimal cost in precious Iranian lives.

35 posted on 06/17/2003 7:22:44 AM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004!!!! Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: DoctorZIn
Thank you so much for your posts!
36 posted on 06/17/2003 8:26:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--The mad mullah solution? ATTACH THEM TO TREES !!)
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To: DoctorZIn
Cross-link below -- Doc, do you know anything about this group? Are they good guys or bad? Did france help the student movement with this, or hurt it? I just want to get my facts before I build up an even bigger head of steam at our newest enemy, france.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/930406/posts
France Detains Members of Iran Opposition
AP ^ | 06/17/03 | ELAINE GANLEY

PARIS - Masked and heavily armed French police raided the offices Tuesday of an Iranian opposition group accused of links to terrorism, rounding up 165 members and seizing $1.3 million in American currency, the government said.

On the orders of France's leading anti-terrorism judge, some 1,300 police poured into the streets and blew down doors of offices of the People's Mujahedeen of Iran early Tuesday in a vast sweep of sites north and west of Paris.

37 posted on 06/17/2003 9:00:26 AM PDT by ellery
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To: BOBTHENAILER; *war_list; W.O.T.; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; blam; Sabertooth; NormsRevenge; Gritty; ...
Thanks for the ping. Cascading ping!

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

38 posted on 06/17/2003 9:00:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Iran Mullahs will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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To: Tamsey
...It's driving me crazy that we can't help them, is there anything you know of that we can do? I've already written media contacts asking that they cover this more extensively and also talk directly to students or supporters. Is there any way you know of for us to send money to help get passed to striking families? Any international org's supporting them we can donate to? ...

If you want teh media to speak with true Iranian protest reps ask them to contact:

Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi
la_fleur_violette@yahoo.com
She is an intellegent spokewoman for the protesters.
She is very connected, a filmaker and her father (also a filmaker) is in Evin prison right now.
She lives in the NY area.

I will check if there is anywhere people can send $ to help.
39 posted on 06/17/2003 9:07:31 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: BOBTHENAILER
.... Tonight I was speaking with a student in Tehran and she told me "whomever u talk to, blesses Bush and they feel much better emotionally and feel that there is a hope."
Send this to the NYT....

Please send the media these comments...
40 posted on 06/17/2003 9:11:26 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
Cross-link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/930498/posts

SPECIAL FORCES PREPARE FOR IRAN ATTACK [CIA Already In Country]
UK Evening Standard ^ | June 17, 2003 | Robert Fox

British and American Intelligence and Special Forces have been put on alert for a conflict with Iran within the next 12 months as fears grow that Terhan is building a nuclear weapons program.

Iran has been constructing a nuclear civil power program for some years. It is due to start generating electricity for the national power grid in two years.

However, United Nations, American and European Union experts have become alarmed at the extent of nuclear power plants in Iraq and many are of a sophistication that suggests they are for a weapons program rather than for civil use.

A full report by the International Atomic Energy Authority is due to be published within days. It points at discrepencies in what Iran has officially disclosed about its nuclear facilities.

Already CIA agents are known to have been working inside Iran to establish the full range of the Iranian nuclear program.


41 posted on 06/17/2003 9:20:09 AM PDT by ellery
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To: ellery
Rock the Casbah bump
42 posted on 06/17/2003 9:23:02 AM PDT by Poohbah (I must be all here, because I'm not all there!)
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To: ellery
...On the orders of France's leading anti-terrorism judge, some 1,300 police poured into the streets and blew down doors of offices of the People's Mujahedeen of Iran early Tuesday in a vast sweep of sites north and west of Paris...


The Mujahedeen do not have a good reputation with most Iranians. Saddam supported them in their fight against the government. They are essentially socialist. But France wants to support the Mullahs right now. So the arrests.
43 posted on 06/17/2003 9:29:28 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: All
"Anti-regime protests must not destabilize Iran" Russia says

MOSCOW, June 16 (AFP) - Russia said Monday it hoped that six days of student-led anti-regime protests in Iran would not destabilize the political situation in the Islamic republic.
"We hope that the internal political situation is not destabilized in Iran," Interfax quoted foreign ministry spokesman Alexander Yakovenko as saying.

Yakovenko said that Russia was closely monitoring the violence, while noting that the demonstrations were "Iran's internal affair."

"We are saddened that the political disputes are leading to violence and bloodshed," Yakovenko added.

Iran lashed out Monbday at the United States -- which has welcomed the demonstrations -- and sent a "vigorous protest" over Washington's "interference" in its internal affairs.

Separately, Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Yury Fedotov called on the IAEA governors to take a "measured and non-politicised" decision after receiving the report on Iran by its director general Mohamed ElBaradei.

"We believe the reaction of the council of governors to this report must be measured and non-politicised, and take all aspects into account," he said, as quoted by the Interfax news agency.

"The reaction should correspond to the parts of the report where it is a matter of activities discovered in Iran that were not known by the IAEA previously," he said.

ElBaradei said earlier in his report to the 35 IAEA governors, the body's regulatory body, that Tehran had "omitted to mention certain of its nuclear activities."

Iran, which is building its first nuclear power plant with Russia's help, is suspected by some countries, including the United States, of secretly working on a nuclear weapons program. It insists the plant is purely for civilian purposes.

Washington has been pressing the IAEA to condemn the program.


Source: Iranmania





44 posted on 06/17/2003 9:35:40 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
Thanks for the ping and please keep us posted. It sounds like you're getting some good inside information on this. Please let them know they have a lot of people praying and pulling for them. A democracy in Iran would be a dream come true for so many of them...
45 posted on 06/17/2003 9:37:12 AM PDT by Allegra (I FReep...therefore I am...)
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To: Allegra
Will do.
46 posted on 06/17/2003 9:41:36 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: JulieRNR21; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Pan_Yans Wife; RobFromGa; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; ...
France to invest 650 M$ in Iran
SMCCDI (Information Service)
June 16, 2003

The French government has pushed for more investments in the Iran of the Ayatollahs. These new investments are for a package of 650 Millions of dollars.

France is known to be one of the main backers of the Clerical leadership and suporter of the rule of repression in Iran. This country is also known for having avoided the trial of several of the hit squads members of the Islamic regime who killed several Iranian opponents placed under its protection.

Many Iranians are hoping to put an end to the economic presence of this country as soon as they will overthrown the theocracy.

Source: SMCCDI

http://www.iran-daneshjoo.org/cgi-bin/smccdinews/viewnews.cgi?category=5&id=1055855726

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me."
47 posted on 06/17/2003 9:44:21 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: JulieRNR21; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Pan_Yans Wife; RobFromGa; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; ...
SMCCDI (Information Service)
July 17, 2003
Tens of demonstrators were injured and arrseted in the clashes which rocked the western City of Hamedan.

Special units of the regime came into action, yesterday evening, to smash the protesters who had gather near the university which has been at several occasions the scene of bloody crackdowns.


Source: SMCCDI

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me."
48 posted on 06/17/2003 9:47:17 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
Time to add France to the Axis of Evil list. There is a vacancy, not that we toppled Saddam's regime.

New, "improved" Axis of Evil: Iran, N. Korea, Syrian, France.
49 posted on 06/17/2003 9:48:18 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: DoctorZIn
"Many Iranians are hoping to put an end to the economic presence of this country (France) as soon as they will overthrown the theocracy."

Excellent news.

50 posted on 06/17/2003 9:50:20 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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