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Experts call Biblical artifact a fake
USA Today ^ | 06/18/03 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/18/2003 6:47:53 AM PDT by bedolido

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:40:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

JERUSALEM (AP)

(Excerpt) Read more at usatoday.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: artifact; biblical; experts; fake; ossuary
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1 posted on 06/18/2003 6:47:53 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
He has trouble with the notion that Jesus might have really existed
2 posted on 06/18/2003 6:58:08 AM PDT by Norse
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To: bedolido
No agenda here, move on.
3 posted on 06/18/2003 6:58:42 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: bedolido
How is the authenticity important? How would anyone validate it's authenticity?
4 posted on 06/18/2003 6:59:27 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
I don't think that the stone's authenticity is that important. Faith is belief with the absence of evidence. Dang, what is the Bible verse that addresses that?

Anyway it is interesting that the box has generated so much discussion...which I guess is a good thing.

5 posted on 06/18/2003 7:03:23 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: stuartcr
How is the authenticity important? How would anyone validate it's authenticity?
Missing from the USA Today version of the Associated Press story is this rather important sentence that helps explain how it was determined to be a fraud: "The James inscription cut through the ancient limestone box's patina, a thin coating acquired with age, the experts said, proving the writing was not ancient."

As to whether its authenticity is important, I guess it depends on whether one thinks that the truth matters or not.
6 posted on 06/18/2003 7:07:04 AM PDT by drjimmy
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What truth are we talking about, and how would anyone know if it's true?
7 posted on 06/18/2003 7:11:44 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: SoothingDave
I'm sure all the folks who relied upon this ossuary as definitive proof that Jesus had a biological brother, and that Mary, therefore wasn't really a virgin, will now be flooding your freepmailbox with apologies.
8 posted on 06/18/2003 7:12:11 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: bedolido
I will wait until Hershal Shanks - the man who brought us the dead sea schrolls - gives up hope.

The timing issue is bogus. As to the two hands, it is simply the carver switching from block letters to curesive. Not a deal killer.

9 posted on 06/18/2003 7:12:56 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: drjimmy
As to whether its authenticity is important, I guess it depends on whether one thinks that the truth matters or not.

Or whether the ossuary matters or not.

10 posted on 06/18/2003 7:14:57 AM PDT by ProudGOP
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To: bedolido
They called it a fake on another ongoing thread, as well. What a cooincidence.
11 posted on 06/18/2003 7:15:09 AM PDT by Consort
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To: TontoKowalski
Hebrews Ch. 11 V. 1
12 posted on 06/18/2003 7:16:42 AM PDT by azhenfud
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To: bedolido
I just saw a news report on this. What seems to be the killer here is the patina. Basically, there is a patina on the rest of the piece, but not on the questionable inscription. Through 2,000 years of exposure, there should be a patina on the inscription, but it is missing, leading experts to believe that is was very recently carved.
13 posted on 06/18/2003 7:17:18 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: bedolido
I've been waiting to use this since I heard it in a sermon last Sunday evening:

"Our problem is not with evidence, it's with obedience".

14 posted on 06/18/2003 7:18:31 AM PDT by BSunday (My other post is a pulitzer - winner)
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To: ProudGOP
Our faith in the Sovereign was just fine all those years without the thing. It really shouldn't make any difference now.
15 posted on 06/18/2003 7:19:29 AM PDT by azhenfud
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To: bedolido
Could not read any further than "EXPERT" and forgeries, anybody can buy an "EXPERT" these days, wonder how much the "EXPERT" charges?

16 posted on 06/18/2003 7:23:59 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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What truth are we talking about, and how would anyone know if it's true?
The guy who owns it claims it is "authentic," meaning the ossuary and the inscription on it dates from Jesus' time, so it could very well have held the bones of Jesus' brother, James. The scientific evidence shows that the inscription is probably a modern forgery intended to make people believe it was done in antiquity.
17 posted on 06/18/2003 7:40:14 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Norse
He has trouble with the notion that Jesus might have really existed

He does? Where's this in the article?

18 posted on 06/18/2003 7:51:12 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
It's obvious
19 posted on 06/18/2003 7:51:59 AM PDT by Norse
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To: MissAmericanPie
No agenda here, move on.

Interesting. So unless Israel's Antiquities Authority certifies everything - real or not - you are going to blame it on "agenda"???

20 posted on 06/18/2003 7:52:21 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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