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Will We See Gore TV? (NOW YOU CAN WATCH YOUR TV FALL ASLEEP!)
Time ^ | 6/18/03

Posted on 06/18/2003 8:30:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone

Look out, Rupert, here comes … Al?

Since deciding not to make another race for the White House in 2004, former Vice President Al Gore has been devoting considerable time to another dream, one he shares with many Democrats these days — creating a media enterprise that could challenge the dominance of conservative voices in cable television and talk radio. Numerous sources in Hollywood and Washington tell TIME that Gore has been quietly sounding out potential financial backers for a cable television network that would feature "progressive" viewpoints. Additionally, Gore has helped arrange meetings between key Hollywood figures and a wealthy Chicago couple who have publicly announced plans to invest $10 million in a liberal radio network.

What role Gore himself would play in any of these ventures is still far from clear. "He can pull out at any time," says one associate who has spoken to him about the concept. "He can say, 'This isn't my deal.' But he's interested." Gore has been exploring and encouraging several types of possibilities in recent months, and consulting closely with Joel Hyatt, the founder of Hyatt Legal Services, a nationwide chain of low-cost, storefront legal clinics. (Hyatt ran for Senate from Ohio in 1994, unsuccessfully seeking the seat that was vacated by the retirement of his father-in-law, Howard Metzenbaum.) One entertainment industry source who met with Gore and Hyatt earlier this year said that, at that time, part of what they envisioned youth-oriented programming, "putting video cameras in the hands of kids."

Gore is also making his influence felt in other ways in Hollywood, a place where he has not always been warmly received. When the former Vice President attended the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah, earlier this year, he arranged a series of private meetings with politically oriented entertainment industry figures. One session was with a handful of people from the Environmental Media Association, a group that promotes the idea of incorporating environmentalist story lines into movies. "He was very interested in what we are doing, because he is very interested in media," says Debbie Levin, the group's executive director.

Gore has also been helpful to Chicago venture capitalists Sheldon and Anita Drobny, who announced in February that they planned to fund a liberal radio network to counterbalance such conservative commentators as Rush Limbaugh. Several sources said Gore has helped introduce the Drobnys to such Hollywood political forces as producer-director Rob Reiner. Comedian Al Franken, author of the book "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot," is considering hosting a show on the Drobnys' network, and added that the couple has approached Gore to do regular essays. Anita Drobny declined to comment about any venture involving Gore, telling TIME: "I'm not at liberty to say anything about that. As far as Vice President Gore, you'll have to call him to ask him about his project and what they are doing." Gore and Hyatt did not respond to repeated requests for an interview.

Gore has long been interested in the nexus between politics and media. His 99-page senior thesis in college was titled "The Impact of Television on the Conduct of the Presidency, 1947-1969." Before running for Congress in 1976, Gore worked as a newspaper reporter for the Nashville Tennessean.

The ascendancy of conservative outlets such as Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Channel — and particularly such ratings powerhouses as commentator Bill O'Reilly — have been a growing source of frustration for Democrats. And while liberal commentators such as former Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim Hightower have made a stab at syndicated talk shows, they have by and large been unsuccessful. In March, the MSNBC cable news network canceled Phil Donahue's talk show after a disappointing six-month run against The O'Reilly Factor. However, some liberals point to the success of Hillary Clinton's just-released memoir as evidence that a marketplace exists for their viewpoint.

Gore has shared their frustration. In an interview last December with the New York Observer, he described the conservative outlets as a "fifth column" within the media ranks that injects "daily Republican talking points into the definition of what's objective."

"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," Gore said. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times , Rush Limbaugh — there’s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media."


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1 posted on 06/18/2003 8:30:23 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
HUh? Gore on TV? I'd rather watch hyenas mate on the discovery channel.
2 posted on 06/18/2003 8:35:07 AM PDT by rs79bm (The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit ... R. Limbaugh)
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To: areafiftyone
"He can pull out at any time"

Ironically,this was never said about Bill Clinton...

3 posted on 06/18/2003 8:35:12 AM PDT by TheBigB (Why don't women blink during foreplay? They don't have time.)
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To: areafiftyone
Environmental Media Association, a group that promotes the idea of incorporating environmentalist story lines into movies.

At least they admit they use the entertainment media to push their views onto the masses.

4 posted on 06/18/2003 8:35:26 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: areafiftyone
You would think that somone smart enough to invent the internet (chuckle chuckle) would be smart enough to realize that he is only about 20 years late and his buddy Ted Turner already holds the copyrights, patents, and intellectual property rights to this concept ... not to mention considerable stock in the enterprise.
5 posted on 06/18/2003 8:36:32 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: rs79bm
UMMMMM - I think that's how Bubba got started. ;-)
6 posted on 06/18/2003 8:37:50 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: areafiftyone
there already is a progressive radio network, it's called NPR
7 posted on 06/18/2003 8:38:41 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: areafiftyone
However, some liberals point to the success of Hillary Clinton's just-released memoir as evidence that a marketplace exists for their viewpoint.

Since it's part of this article, can someone get us an update on just how well this book is actually succeeding? I haven't seen any updated numbers recently.

8 posted on 06/18/2003 8:38:49 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: areafiftyone
Will We See Gore TV? (NOW YOU CAN WATCH YOUR TV FALL ASLEEP!)

Sales of sleeping pills would plummet!

9 posted on 06/18/2003 8:39:50 AM PDT by mombonn (Have you prayed for our President yet today?)
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To: areafiftyone
the dominance of conservative voices in cable television and talk radio.

Huh?

10 posted on 06/18/2003 8:40:13 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Tip the Pizza guy!)
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To: areafiftyone
Does Gov. Bush have the exper . . .ience . . . to . . . be . . . Presi . . . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . .
11 posted on 06/18/2003 8:40:39 AM PDT by w_over_w (COFFEE! Is the planet shaking or is it just me?)
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To: areafiftyone
What liberal weenies -- they just don't get it.
12 posted on 06/18/2003 8:41:20 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: areafiftyone
...a wealthy Chicago couple who have publicly announced plans to invest $10 million in a liberal radio network.

What role Gore himself would play in any of these ventures is still far from clear. "He can pull out at any time," says one associate who has spoken to him about the concept. "He can say, 'This isn't my deal.' But he's interested."

Ten Million? You bet your sweet a$$ he's interested.

13 posted on 06/18/2003 8:41:46 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: areafiftyone
Man, these idiots don't get it, do they?

NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR OUTDATED, WHINEY, LEFTIST BULLSH!T!

Cripes, they already have NPR, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, every major motion picture company and studio, almost all of Hollywood's "playas", every single major newspaper across the country, Time, Newsweek, etc, and they are "worried"?

Liberals don't play well in the market unless it's a captive audience. Once Fox News and talk radio and the Internet broke the left's domination of all major media, people were given a choice and the PEOPLE CHOSE FOX NEWS CHANNEL AND TALK RADIO AND THE INTERNET, YOU MORONS!...what galls the Democrats and the left is they just can't believe the majority rejects them and their message. It's always got to be "some other reason" that they aren't "connecting"...when the idiots don't get that it is precisely because their message isn't connecting.

What's it gonna take to get it through to these morons?

MSNBC put on Donahue and he tanked so bad the ratings weren't even measurable some nights. And he's not some "leftist icon"? So where was this huge "progressive audience", eh? Nowhere to be seen.

Hightower, Cuomo, Koch, Dershowitz, etc, all tried and failed on talk radio.

Same reason.

When people are actually given a choice in media coverage, they will choose the conservative angle every time.

Al Franken will fail as miserably as every other leftist who has tried. Because the left listens to NPR...they already have a network...paid for by you and me and our tax dollars no less.

Again, advertisers don't support NPR...the left needs public funds to stay on the air...they can't compete in the market place of ideas...they LOSE EVERY TIME!.

I'm so tired of this bullsh!t. I want them to get this network underway so that it can fail miserably and then we can roundly mock them. What will they say then? I'm sure it will be some other excuse then..."the evil, conservative, media empires killed it", "Rupert Murdoch destroyed it", etc. I'm sure that's what we'll hear next.

THE LEFT'S MESSAGE IS REJECTED BY THE MAJORITY! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS, MORONS!

14 posted on 06/18/2003 8:43:28 AM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: Republicus2001
Its not progressive. Its Socialist.
15 posted on 06/18/2003 8:45:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: areafiftyone
When are these "progressives" going to realize that they had from 1993-2001 to get their '60s retread ideas across to the public and failed because the concepts were as unrealistic pitched by 50-year-olds as they were when pitched by 20-year-olds. They are simply living in the past; what they are really concerned about is having some media outlet they can turn to where their failed, outmoded ideas still are taken seriously. This is nostalgia, not policy. America has moved on to a more pragmatic, more conservative course out of various practical necessities. That is the reality, and they just hate reality trumping their youthful fantasy.
16 posted on 06/18/2003 8:46:33 AM PDT by JennysCool
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To: areafiftyone
I like the thought of these lefties throwing millions down this rat hole. snicker
17 posted on 06/18/2003 8:47:04 AM PDT by katykelly
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To: w_over_w
ROFL!
18 posted on 06/18/2003 8:48:14 AM PDT by arasina (Place your tagline right here at no cost whatsoever.)
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To: Republicus2001
there already is a progressive radio network, it's called NPR

They've got TV, too. Free Speech TV, I think it's called. It shows up on my cable as FSTV.

Anyway, it's a barrel of laughs. Sort of like VideoDU. There is no position so outrageous and offensive that they can't find some documentary filmmaker who hasn't covered it.

It's like the freak show at the circus: you feel guilty about gawking at them, but they did put themselves on public display.

19 posted on 06/18/2003 8:53:07 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: areafiftyone
In an interview last December with the New York Observer, he described the conservative outlets as a "fifth column" within the media ranks that injects "daily Republican talking points into the definition of what's objective."

In other words, if you don't toe the Democrat line you are a "fifth columnist" spewing false information to the masses.

20 posted on 06/18/2003 8:54:48 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: rs79bm
Democrats just WILL NOT stand for ANY conservitive talk at all!! They have CBS,NBC,ABC,CNN,NYTIMES you could go on and on, but they are freaked out over the success of FOX,for giving BOTH sides, I don't care how many times they say differant Fox does give BOTH veiws. They are just plain stupid.
21 posted on 06/18/2003 8:55:51 AM PDT by cody32127 (If Democrats are not evil, then evil has no meaning)
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
The only reason they are worried is because....NOONE IS LISTENING TO THEM ON THOSE STATIONS!!! They just can't understand that most of America has had enough of their lies!
22 posted on 06/18/2003 9:02:12 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: areafiftyone
EXCLUSIVE SNEAK PREVIEW!!


23 posted on 06/18/2003 9:06:54 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: areafiftyone
The dems want an alternative tv or radio network. That's "alternative," as in: talk and programming about values and things that most Americans don't believe, don't want to hear, don't want to see, and don't want to permit within the U.S.
24 posted on 06/18/2003 9:07:18 AM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: areafiftyone
LOLOL.......no one is watching lib media now. Isn't it nice to see them throwing money down the drain........

Help me to survive one more shot of Gore and his sweaty armpits.......(sorry)

25 posted on 06/18/2003 9:07:38 AM PDT by OldFriend (Liberal bias in the media????)
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
Hey Huck, tell us what you really think.

Just kidding. I agree with you 1,000%

26 posted on 06/18/2003 9:10:51 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: TontoKowalski
you feel guilty about gawking at them

Guilt is all they have to play on. That's why they're so successful...they play on our guilt
27 posted on 06/18/2003 9:12:08 AM PDT by Ayn Rand wannabe (Aequitas et Veritas)
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To: Cobra64
We all know even if Gore gets the network up it will dive in the ratings and attract no viewers.

Let those stupid socialist billionaires Gore convinces to shell out cash waist all the money they wan, it won't work...
28 posted on 06/18/2003 9:14:41 AM PDT by GeneralHavoc
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To: areafiftyone
Al Gore is the most entertaining man in Washington. Just listen to these great quotes (in mp3 format):
"I invented the Internet..."
Al gets caught lying (Very funny)
Comedy Central quotes Al Gore... (funny)
President who? (Quote about Clinton by Gore)

There are more where these came from. Pass them around. Al's a barrel of laughs.

29 posted on 06/18/2003 9:16:21 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Constitution Day
MONTY PYTHON!!! WHOOOO HOOOO!!! I miss that show!
30 posted on 06/18/2003 9:16:47 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: OldFriend
Al Gore's first guest will be his LOCKBOX!!
31 posted on 06/18/2003 9:17:26 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: areafiftyone
After seeing the post I should have put Al Gore as "The Larch". Oh well. :)
32 posted on 06/18/2003 9:19:00 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Bon mots
Actually when Al Gore was running at least we enjoyed making fun of him. There was so much to make fun of. These democreeps are sooo dull! It's like watching paint dry!
33 posted on 06/18/2003 9:21:14 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR OUTDATED, WHINEY, LEFTIST BULLSH!T!

Hopefully they will do it.

34 posted on 06/18/2003 9:21:30 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: areafiftyone
Gore TV? Well, since he touts he developed the internet, Gore TV isn't farfetched. Whether he'll have a big enough audience is a different question. I know I won't be watching.
35 posted on 06/18/2003 9:21:39 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: areafiftyone
"— there’s a bunch of them,..."

Ya mean those Y-chromosomes, Al?

36 posted on 06/18/2003 9:21:45 AM PDT by rvoitier (There's too many ALs in this world: Al Qaeda Al Jezeera Al Gore Al Sharpton Al Franken)
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To: Constitution Day
Well on the bright side at least it's not how not to be seen!!
37 posted on 06/18/2003 9:23:12 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: areafiftyone
lol...so true, so true :-P
38 posted on 06/18/2003 9:23:29 AM PDT by Ayn Rand wannabe (Aequitas et Veritas)
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To: areafiftyone
The Liberal view has been presented. Talk show host Michael Jackson in Los Angeles became such a joke on KABC radio he was finally let go. He was holding about 10% as many listeners as compared to Rush. CNN can't hold audience share and conservative places are poping up on the internet like sand on a beach.

With CNN, CNNHN, MSNBC and CNBC, none of them can hold a candle to FNC. Now they think a new network is going to do the trick. No! A new philosophy will do the trick. Conversion is inevitable. Avoidence is futal.

What part of we don't want your product do the libs not understand? Liberal got to be so recognized that they have changed to Progressive. Of course Progressive is actually Retro-gressive, but who cares. Communism is still Communism under any other name.
39 posted on 06/18/2003 9:23:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: rs79bm
OK - You asked for it...


40 posted on 06/18/2003 9:24:14 AM PDT by TomServo (Free Illbay!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Agreed. Nothing like letting the masses hear the unfiltered, unadultrated leftist ideology to scare the hell out of them. The first election after it goes on the air, the libs get about 5% of the vote.
41 posted on 06/18/2003 9:25:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: areafiftyone
what's wrong with npr and pubic tv?

they're taxpayer funded and they've never met a liberal-socialist they didn't like.

they also speak in a phony, upper-class tone of voice.
42 posted on 06/18/2003 9:27:00 AM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy . /s)
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To: areafiftyone
Al Gore, The Maxi Series
Episode 224- "Lockbox!"

43 posted on 06/18/2003 9:27:31 AM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: rs79bm
Hyenas mating would actually be interesting.
44 posted on 06/18/2003 9:28:06 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: areafiftyone
Sounds like a risky scheme to me. Maybe Al can share his iced tea recipe?
45 posted on 06/18/2003 9:30:58 AM PDT by chimera
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To: areafiftyone
I love it. A liberal black hole that will suck their energy and money into oblivion. Where do I sign up.
46 posted on 06/18/2003 9:33:00 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: areafiftyone
"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," Gore said. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times , Rush Limbaugh — there’s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media."

Acocrding to Gore and the other liberal kooks like Eric Alterman, this Hawaii island of moderate to right leaning news sources dominates over the vast Pacific Ocean sized liberal/left dominated media.

47 posted on 06/18/2003 9:35:34 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: finnman69
You can send your check to Gore's lockbox
48 posted on 06/18/2003 9:47:53 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: areafiftyone
Yeah, Clintoon was such a hit on 60 Minutes that Al wants to top him (sarcasm off)
49 posted on 06/18/2003 9:49:29 AM PDT by samanella
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To: areafiftyone
Winnebago Winnie carrying the lock box?
50 posted on 06/18/2003 9:51:29 AM PDT by OldFriend (Liberal bias in the media????)
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