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India Gets First 'Stealth' Warship
AP | 19 June 03

Posted on 06/19/2003 6:34:27 AM PDT by RussianConservative

Combined Reports /

The warship INS Talwar sitting at port in St. Petersburg during a ceremony to mark its official delivery to Indian naval officials.

ST. PETERSBURG -- The Indian navy took possession on Wednesday of the first of three Russian-built warships that boast "stealth-type" technology and should significantly increase the navy's reach.

The INS Talwar, a 4,000-metric ton Krivak Class warship, was delivered to Indian naval officials during a ceremony at the northern port of St. Petersburg. The ship has been designed to make it less visible to enemy radar than conventional destroyers, and the Indian navy uses the term "stealth" to describe it.

"I am happy for our Indian colleagues to have such a beautiful ship," said the Russian navy's commander in chief, Admiral Vladimir Kuroyedov.

"I am a bit sad, though, that the Russian navy isn't yet getting such new ships," he said.

India plans to commission all three warships this year. They have been built by St. Petersburg's Baltic Shipbuilding Plant as part of a $1 billion deal.

Indian Defense Minister George Fernandes is expected to commission the second ship during a visit later this month. The third will be delivered later this year, Russian officials said.

Built to suit Indian specifications, the ship is armed with surface-to-surface and surface-to-air missiles, long- and short-range guns and equipment to detect and counter submarines.

"The frigate Talwar is the most modern Russian ship ever offered for export," said Andrei Belyaninov, general director of the Rosoboronexport arms export company.

Admiral Madhvendra Singh, chief of the Indian Naval Staff, said the Talwar "is able to hit targets much further" than any ship currently in the navy's fleet.

The three warships were to be commissioned 18 months ago. However, they were delayed after the Indian navy refused to take delivery because one of the ship's main armaments, the surface-to-air "Shtil" missile, had failed during its test flight.

The fault in the missile system has since been corrected.

India is Russia's second biggest purchaser of military hardware, including fighter jets, tanks and other equipment worth billions of dollars.

Singh said the commissioning "symbolizes and reinforces the historic ties between Russia and India."

He said that in the future India hopes to be able to build most navy ships at its own defense shipyards, but that New Delhi will still be seeking equipment from foreign countries, particularly Russia.

Belyaninov of Rosoboronexport said his agency's current order book now stands at $13.3 billion, with India and China accounting for the lion's share.

He said Rosoboronexport expects to "soon" sign a contract to sell India the aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, which the two sides have been negotiating for years.

Technical details have been agreed, but the two sides have failed to come to terms on the price for the warship, once considered the pride of the Soviet navy.

Defense experts say the deal, which includes more than two dozen MiG fighters and five attack helicopters, is worth about $1.5 billion. (AP, MT)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: india; military; navy; russia; russian; southasia; southasialist; stpetersburg
Now India can sock terrorist Pakies easier...good.
1 posted on 06/19/2003 6:34:27 AM PDT by RussianConservative
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To: RussianConservative
That thing doesn't look stealthy at all.
2 posted on 06/19/2003 6:48:17 AM PDT by Gary Boldwater
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To: RussianConservative
That's OK as long as a Kali cult doesn't gain control of India.
3 posted on 06/19/2003 6:49:50 AM PDT by steve8714 (remember Gunga Din)
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To: RussianConservative
Doesn't appear very "stealthy" to me. In fact it kinda looks like a "Burke".

Until very recently, Russian surface combatants have had very cluttered decks which would indicate a very large radar crossection. Given the difficulties involved in maintaining stealth aircraft (special hangars, buttering the seams, etc.) I think that naval "stealth" is pretty much limited to contouring the hull & superstructure. This Krivak doesn't look special in that regard.

4 posted on 06/19/2003 6:52:22 AM PDT by Tallguy (Trying desperately to ignore Hillary.... and not succeeding.)
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To: Prof Engineer
ping
5 posted on 06/19/2003 6:52:39 AM PDT by msdrby (I do believe the cheese slid off his cracker! - The Green Mile)
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To: Tallguy
I served in army, know little about navy.
6 posted on 06/19/2003 7:11:32 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: RussianConservative
It good to see commerce from Russia. It may be a warship, but the more they sustain themsevles the less problems we will have over here.
7 posted on 06/19/2003 7:16:33 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the only way an American can get elected is through Mexican votes, we have a war to be waged.)
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To: RussianConservative
there are "stealth" suface combatants in the works but this isn't one of them. Krivaks have been around for goin' on three decades now.
8 posted on 06/19/2003 7:24:04 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: RussianConservative
A Krivak? Wow, India sure is getting cutting edge equipment /sarcasm.
9 posted on 06/19/2003 7:27:38 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: PogySailor
They should have held out for the Udaloy......


10 posted on 06/19/2003 7:29:44 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: Snickersnee
Krivaks have been around for goin' on three decades now.

But the Talwar seems to have only the hull and engines from the original Krivak design.

And it's a stealthy as most warships being built currently, and a lot stealthier that the orginal Krivak design. I think it looks kinda neat.

11 posted on 06/19/2003 7:51:52 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("We've got important work here. A lot of filing, giving things names.")
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To: PogySailor
Looks like the Russian swabbies are in for a lot of scraping and painting.
12 posted on 06/19/2003 7:53:04 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Yeah, seen from that aspect, it does look considerably modernized.
13 posted on 06/19/2003 7:57:58 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Looks like a frigate to me.
14 posted on 06/19/2003 8:20:46 AM PDT by Brellium
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To: RussianConservative
Russia - the next superpower? We can only hope!
15 posted on 06/19/2003 8:33:55 AM PDT by Norse
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To: Norse
Russia the next Superpower ?

Maybe

but seems like she is willing to sell arms to almost any customer who has the $$$$$$$$
16 posted on 06/19/2003 9:41:35 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: RussianConservative
Should be good for both sides and for the US. India seems to be moving towards the US camp and will definitely be able to wean the Russians away from the french and Germans by boosting Russia's trade with non-EU countries which are friendly to the US.
17 posted on 06/19/2003 9:43:52 AM PDT by Cronos (Mixing Islam with sanity results in serious side effects. Consult your Imam)
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To: Cronos
Russia also arm India as counterweight China.
18 posted on 06/19/2003 10:06:50 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: RussianConservative
As a counter-weight to China. Hmmm. that would be good, so a US-Israel-Russia-India axis against the EU-slam-China.
I like the odds.
19 posted on 06/20/2003 10:45:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Mixing Islam with sanity results in serious side effects. Consult your Imam)
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To: Cronos
There also Japan, S.Korea (?), Taiwan, Austrailia, Phillipines, Vietnam who hate/fear China. On China side is Pakistan, Indonesia maybe others.
20 posted on 06/20/2003 11:30:34 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: The Pheonix
When need money much harder to be picky.
21 posted on 06/20/2003 11:33:15 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Cronos; rmlew; DeaconBenjamin; Joseph_Erulkar; Libertarianize the GOP; h.a. cherev; The Red Zone; ..
ping
22 posted on 06/20/2003 11:57:00 PM PDT by risk
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To: PogySailor; RussianConservative
I would not smirk if they are armed with Russian sunburns. They are carrier killers and there is no defense against them once fired.
23 posted on 06/21/2003 12:10:04 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
The Klub looks rather nice on paper. It is long ranged and supersonic. Frankly, it looks better than the Harpoon 2.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Klub.html

AS for the design of the frigate, i preffer the new Saudi class of La Fayettes.
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/al_riyadh/index.html

As far as I am concerned, the best new frigates are the German, Dutch, and Spanish new frigates.
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/f124/index.html
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dezeven/index.html
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/f100/index.html
24 posted on 06/21/2003 1:39:43 AM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Destro
True, the Russians may be poor (only for the time being) but they still have top rate scientists, technicians, engineers etc. And a Russian-Indian pact seems mutually beneficial and good for the US too as they would concentrate more on containing China than being inimical to the US
25 posted on 06/21/2003 2:06:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Mixing Islam with sanity results in serious side effects. Consult your Imam)
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To: *southasia_list
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26 posted on 06/21/2003 6:07:45 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Cronos
the Russians may be poor

I thought the last year or so the Russian economy (and oil revenues) have been booming... if i am not mistaken Russia recently posted some huge account surpluses...

(They may be "poor" but i suspect not as poor as they were!)

27 posted on 06/21/2003 6:15:11 AM PDT by chilepepper (Clever argument cannot convince Reality -- Carl Jung)
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