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U.S. senators more time needed to judge Iraq WMD
Reuters | Friday, June 20, 2003 | Tabassum Zakaria

Posted on 06/19/2003 9:41:37 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

U.S. senators more time needed to judge Iraq WMD

By Tabassum Zakaria

WASHINGTON, June 19 (Reuters) - U.S. intelligence analysts who testified at a closed Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on Thursday stood by their basic prewar assessment that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, two attendees said.

A controversy has erupted over whether the Bush administration exaggerated the threat from Iraq's alleged biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programs in making a case for war against Baghdad. No such weapons have been found.

Sen. Evan Bayh, an Indiana Democrat, said there was "nothing that changes the bottom line" of prewar assessments that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and the capacity to create "voluminous quantities" of such weapons.

He and other Democrats who attended the hearing said either they could not make judgments about whether the Republican administration hyped the intelligence or they did not believe outright deceit had occurred.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican, said no intelligence analysts have told the panel the administration pressured them to make a stronger case on the weapons assessment than was warranted.

"If there is anyone in the intelligence community -- former, current -- that thinks that their analytical product in any way was manipulated or coerced or intimidated, please come forward. We will keep it confidential. But we have yet to hear from the first one," Roberts told reporters.

U.S. forces have detained some top Iraqi weapons scientists but they have yet to provide information about the location of any biological or chemical weapons.

'NOT TALKING YET'

"We've apprehended some of the top people in their weapons of mass destruction programs, they're not talking yet. My guess is that the key to this lies inside someone's mind who is not yet prepared to tell us what they know," Bayh said.

Some potential weapons sites in Iraq had also been ransacked, he said.

"Some of them have been terribly ransacked in ways that looters would not, so there appears to have been some conscious destruction taking place," Bayh said.

Bayh said lethal amounts of biological or chemical weapons could be easily hidden.

"Hundreds of thousands of gallons of liquid anthrax, for example, which would have the potential to do great harm, would fill the size of a swimming pool in someone's backyard," Bayh said. "A potentially devastating amount of smallpox could be hidden in something the size of a jar."

The House Intelligence Committee on Thursday held its second hearing this week on Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, this one focused on efforts to find them.

Rep. Jane Harman of California, the senior Democrat on that panel, in a statement questioned "why, in retrospect, the intelligence community did not have a better fix on where chemical and biological weapons were stockpiled prior to the war?"

Sen. Richard Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, said questioning the intelligence was appropriate at a time when the United States wages a war on terrorism and engages in a policy of preemptive attack.

But he said he did not believe President George W. Bush intentionally misled the public when he said Iraq had tried to obtain nuclear material from Africa, an assertion based on documents later judged forgeries.

"The president I'm sure did not mean to mislead the people, I think that he was given bad information and we have to ask what was the source? Who checked it out?" Durbin said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: senatehearings; wmd
Friday, June 20, 2003

Quote of the Day by Jim Robinson

1 posted on 06/19/2003 9:41:38 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
"If there is anyone in the intelligence community -- former, current -- that thinks that their analytical product in any way was manipulated or coerced or intimidated, please come forward. We will keep it confidential. But we have yet to hear from the first one," Roberts told reporters.

Correct me if I'm wrong .. but weren't the Democrats screaming that they had people coming to them? ..

and yet no one showed up at this meeting?

2 posted on 06/19/2003 9:53:06 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
Ah-ha! Democrats clearly hyped or exaggerated pre-hearing expectations! ;)
3 posted on 06/19/2003 9:55:41 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Well there is nothing new there
4 posted on 06/19/2003 9:57:27 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
That's for sure, my friend.
5 posted on 06/19/2003 9:59:09 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Mo1
Unnamed sources often don't show up...because they never existed...
6 posted on 06/19/2003 10:03:26 PM PDT by OREALLY
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To: JohnHuang2
...Senators want more time.." No, the DEGENERAT Senators want more time. Three vans, one definite bio chemical; circumstantial evidence; the use of poison gas vs Iran; and the FBI looking for the AMES strain of Anthrax, because that is what the US sold IRAQ in the 1980s when it was legal and Saddam was playing "nice". I guess the Senators need more time because they think slower than most... perhaps to see if they can wring some money out of this some how...
7 posted on 06/19/2003 10:03:31 PM PDT by Henchman
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To: Mo1
Yes they did - I've heard that exact statement made.

Perhaps it's the same anonymous bunch who were complaining about a "quagmire" - MAYBE THEY GOT STUCK IN THEIRS!
8 posted on 06/19/2003 10:06:23 PM PDT by The Final Harvest ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: OREALLY
Gee, the Dems wouldn't be playing political games would they? /sarcasm>
9 posted on 06/19/2003 10:08:01 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: JohnHuang2
Darn ... I hate when that happens ...!!!
10 posted on 06/19/2003 10:13:03 PM PDT by The Final Harvest ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Mo1
Gee, the Dems wouldn't be playing political games would they?

No way! Politics in Washington? Gasp! hehe ;)

11 posted on 06/19/2003 10:17:43 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: OREALLY
ROTFLOL - Exactly!!
12 posted on 06/19/2003 10:20:01 PM PDT by The Final Harvest ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: JohnHuang2
"We've apprehended some of the top people in their weapons of mass destruction programs, ..."

OK, so Iraq had a weapons of mass destruction program and top people in their weapons of mass destruction program but Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction. That's pretty plain and simple.

13 posted on 06/19/2003 10:26:54 PM PDT by kayak (Do not bet against the success of freedom. - GWB 5/9/03)
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To: JohnHuang2
Ah-ha! Democrats clearly hyped or exaggerated pre-hearing expectations! ;)

Looks like the smart ones have determined that this is another dog that won't hunt. I love the smell of self-destructing dimos in the evening!

14 posted on 06/19/2003 10:35:10 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: kayak
Dr. Germ, Dr. Anthrax, Chemical Ali, mobile bio-weapons factories, Chem-bio suits everywhere, gas mask everywhere, atropine injectors (recently used)...no, no evidence Saddam was armed and dangerous ;)
15 posted on 06/19/2003 10:35:25 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: kayak
No, wait!

"Bush planted all that evidence to frame an innocent dictator!" -- Carl Levin.

;)

16 posted on 06/19/2003 10:37:40 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Henchman
Can you hear the sound of one hand clapping?
17 posted on 06/19/2003 10:38:03 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("We are facing something familiar, but they are facing something new." GWB 8/3/2000)
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To: JohnHuang2

Of course! That is just so obvious.

18 posted on 06/19/2003 10:39:45 PM PDT by kayak (Do not bet against the success of freedom. - GWB 5/9/03)
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To: kayak
lol
19 posted on 06/19/2003 10:41:19 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Miss Marple; Molly Pitcher; Neets; Bitwhacker; lepton; Dog; Chairman_December_19th_Society; ...
ping
20 posted on 06/19/2003 10:50:30 PM PDT by kayak (Do not bet against the success of freedom. - GWB 5/9/03)
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To: JohnHuang2
Here is an interesting look at what the Ketchup Kid Kerry has been saying about his buddy, $oddomite's WMDs for over a decade. It is obvious that KKK needs at least another decade to be able to understand how he feels.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/932187/posts


YESTERDAY CANDIDATE KERRY SAID PRESIDENT BUSH “MISLED” ON WMD

Kerry Attacked President Bush. “Kerry said Wednesday that President Bush broke his promise to build an international coalition against Iraq’s Saddam Hussein and then waged a war based on questionable intelligence. ‘He misled every one of us,’ Kerry said.” (Ron Fournier, “Kerry Says Bush Misled Americans On War,” The Associated Press, 6/19/03)



BUT JUST 72 HOURS EARLIER ON ABC’S “THIS WEEK,” SENATOR
KERRY SAID IT WOULD BE “IRRESPONSIBLE” TO SAY THAT!

George Stephanopoulos: “People are really upset that they feel misled by President Bush on this issue weapons of mass destruction. I know you said you’re agnostic about whether or not he misled the public on weapons of mass destruction. But do you have a hunch on whether you think they hyped the intelligence?”


John Kerry: “George, again, I think it would be irresponsible of me at this point to draw conclusions prior to all the evidence being on the table. What I know is we have to get that evidence. We have to have an investigation to know to a certainty whether or not it was hype, whether we were misled …” (ABC’s “This Week,” 6/15/03)



TRUTH IS, FOR OVER A DECADE, KERRY HAS CITED EVIDENCE
OF SADDAM’S WMD . . . EVEN AS RECENTLY AS 2003
21 posted on 06/19/2003 11:08:05 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Support The Brave Iranians as they bring about a needed regime change!)
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To: JohnHuang2
It is obvious that another lying Rat Senator with amnesis, Levin, needs more time to lie and revise history re his remarks on $oddomite/WMDS as per one of your posts tonight.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/932342/posts

Carl Levin's Amnesia: Sen. Levin argued for years that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | Friday, June 20, 2003 | By Rush Limbaugh


Posted on 06/19/2003 10:29 PM PDT by JohnHuang2



Carl Levin's Amnesia
By Rush Limbaugh
Wall Street Journal | June 19, 2003
22 posted on 06/19/2003 11:11:31 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Support The Brave Iranians as they bring about a needed regime change!)
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To: JohnHuang2
>>>"We've apprehended some of the top people in their weapons of mass destruction programs, they're not talking yet. My guess is that the key to this lies inside someone's mind who is not yet prepared to tell us what they know," Bayh said.

One things for sure. US intelligence misjudged just how scared these former top Iraqi officials are. The violent and murderous legacy of Saddam and his sons lives on in the minds of many former Hussein loyalists.

23 posted on 06/19/2003 11:18:13 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: JohnHuang2
BTTT
24 posted on 06/20/2003 4:24:15 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: JohnHuang2
Sen. Evan Bayh, an Indiana Democrat, said there was "nothing that changes the bottom line" of prewar assessments that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and the capacity to create "voluminous quantities" of such weapons.

BAYH NAILS THE COFFIN SHUT on the LW Fruitloop Rats

25 posted on 06/20/2003 7:09:16 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Mo1
"The president I'm sure did not mean to mislead the people, I think that he was given bad information and we have to ask what was the source? Who checked it out?" Durbin said.

Funny how their allegations completely change once they're in the hearing and have to deal in facts. On TV and in speeches, it's Bush Lied and Manipulated Evidence, but in the hearing it's Bush has been completely honest, but let's get to the bottom of the forged documents regarding Iraq trying to obtain nuclear material from Africa.

26 posted on 06/20/2003 8:49:36 AM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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To: alnick
Our Attorney General is busy hunting down terrorists, arresting truck drivers from Ohio, the president is working 24/7 on national/international concerns, But wait...our congress sits around planning meetings on whether intelligence was accurate on WMD and did it justify our going in and liberating an enslaved nation run by a terrorist!
27 posted on 06/20/2003 11:38:15 AM PDT by princess leah
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Just posting a link to the article, which I could not find earlier in this thread:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14496-2003Jun19.html
28 posted on 06/20/2003 11:49:49 AM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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